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Re: Unidentified galls

Hi there,

just to add to Frazers pictures:
The gall A is about 2-3 times the size of an A. solitarius. Also
the tip is somewhat broken off (difficult to see on the photo). If
it wasn't as bulbous as it is, it would be straight forward A.
aries - it's just too big.

Gall B is sort of lying on its side and it's spindle shape might not
be clear, but you can see the ribs along the gall. I'm convinced it
had a short stalk and would have made it A. callidoma. The
alternatives, A. malphigi (no stalk) and A. seminationis (normally
not as symmetric) seem less likely. However, these galls are rare
enough that other people here might have more experience than me.

Gall C is a real mystery to me, at least in the UK. I agree it must
be a young stage in July, but does A. fecundator go from the
small "nobbely" processes seen in the picture to the more leafy
scales on the mature gall. I was thinking along the lines of A.
lucidus or A. grossulariae - I know they tend to be more often on
acorns, but among these young trees there are very few with acorns
and A. lucidus certainly can induce galls in buds.

Happy guessing and every suggestion is welcome.

Best wishes

Karsten

--- In british_galls@..., Scotty Dodd <jaapiella@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Frazer and welcome to the group
>
> My suggestions for your galls, following Redfern et al, 2002,
are;
> A = Andricus solitarius (asexual) mature gall
> B = Andricus solitarius (asexual) young gall
> C = Andricus fecundator? (asexual) young gall (not as sure with
this one).
>
> Good luck with the project, feel free to tell u more about it
sometime.
>
> Regards
>
> Scotty
>
> frazer_sinclair <frazer_sinclair@...> wrote:
> Dear all
> I am new to this group and am about to start a PhD project
involving
> Cynipid gall wasps and oak trees. During some preliminary work
this
> year I have encountered a few galls that I am unsure of, and was
> hoping that someone might be able to help. I have posted some
images
> in a photo album called "Frazers". Any suggestions on what galls
they
> might be would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks
> Frazer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Dear all I am new to this group and am about to start a PhD project involving Cynipid gall wasps and oak trees. During some preliminary work this year I have...
frazer_sinclair
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Oct 1, 2007
1:39 pm

Hello Frazer and welcome to the group My suggestions for your galls, following Redfern et al, 2002, are; A = Andricus solitarius (asexual) mature gall B =...
Scotty Dodd
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Oct 1, 2007
2:38 pm

Hi there, just to add to Frazers pictures: The gall A is about 2-3 times the size of an A. solitarius. Also the tip is somewhat broken off (difficult to see...
Karsten Schonrogge
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Oct 1, 2007
3:19 pm

Quite right Karsten I should look more closely - I completely missed the size scale! I have a pic of a young fecundator somewhere, I will dig it out for...
Scotty Dodd
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Oct 1, 2007
5:15 pm

Hello Frazer, The suggested Andricus solitarium (B) by Scotty has several wavy ridges...so is it maybe possible it is Andricus nudus asexual generation, which...
jojannekebijkerk
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Oct 2, 2007
6:39 pm

Scotty, A. aries with inquilines has occured to me and we should be able to go back, find anotherone and cut it open. However, these were old galls - has...
Karsten Schonrogge
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Oct 1, 2007
6:47 pm

Hello Frazer, Scotty & Karsten, An interesting discussion...... would it be possible to rear out galls A & B to see what emerges and identify the gall wasps?...
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Oct 1, 2007
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