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Re: [british_galls] Galls on Holm Oak (Quercus ilex), Maidenhead

Hi Maggie,
I am glad John Smeathers is back in the fold and willing to ID mites for us.
It's probably best to send specimens straight away when fresh, although I
believe you can identify eriophyids from their dried up bodies, which swell up
again when wetted.
All the best, Margaret

Quoting Roy Frankum <royfrankum@...>:

> Hi Margaret,
>
> In 2004, I emailed the pics of the Holm Oak galls to John Smeathers and he
> said that they could be Aceria ilicis but to keep the specimens for him till
> next time we met, so that he could identify the mites. Well I parcelled up
> the galls as per instructions but I haven't seen him since and I guess that I
> must have discarded all but one very dried up specimen [any mites that
> initially survived have most likely turned to dust by now!]. I could ask
> Gareth to see if he can find new specimens on the holm oak at the Bot. Garden
> this year, so that someone can have another go at identifying the mites.
> 'bye for now,
> Maggie
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M Redfern
> To: british_galls@... ; THOMAS HIGGINBOTTOM
> Cc: british_galls@...
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [british_galls] Galls on Holm Oak (Quercus ilex), Maidenhead
>
>
> Hi Jerry, Tom etc.,
> I've been trying to look at Maggie's photos of the gall but my computer is
> being
> obstruse and won't let me open it! The erineum could be caused by Aceria
> ilicis
> but there is also recorded Aculops coulteri. To separate them certainly
> would
> require ID of the mites, which none of us in the BPGS has done. So we
> probably
> can't identify the species with certainty.
> Redards,
> Margaret
>
> Quoting THOMAS HIGGINBOTTOM <thomas.higginbottom@...>:
>
> > Hi Jerry,
> > Many thanks for the observation. I have looked through French, Dutch and
> > Hungarian books looking for something like your description. Hope you
> don't
> > mind I thought it might be a good idea to copy your email to Margaret
> Redfern
> > who is one of the authors of the 'Keys'.
> > Regards,
> > Tom
> > jrclough2 <jrclough2@...> wrote:
> > I've noticed galls on a Holm Oak in Kidwell's Park, Maidenhead.
> > These
> > are small raised pimples (2-3 mm, above leaf dorsal surface) with what
> > I assume is an erineum on the ventral surface (rusty brown hairs).
> > Unfortunately no photos. I assume that this is likely to be Aceria
> > ilicis.
> >
> > If anyone is interested in the location the oak is located by the
> > subway under the A4 just next to the roundabout junction with the
> > Marlow Road (A308), approx grid ref. SU 885 812.
> >
> > Jerry Clough
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>





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I've noticed galls on a Holm Oak in Kidwell's Park, Maidenhead. These are small raised pimples (2-3 mm, above leaf dorsal surface) with what I assume is an...
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Feb 8, 2008
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Hi Jerry, Many thanks for the observation. I have looked through French, Dutch and Hungarian books looking for something like your description. Hope you don't...
THOMAS HIGGINBOTTOM
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Feb 8, 2008
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Re messages from Tom, Maggie and Jerry re Aceria ilicis - I just thought it would be interesting to see what we have in the database for this species. There...
Janet Boyd
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Feb 9, 2008
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Hi Jerry, Tom etc., I've been trying to look at Maggie's photos of the gall but my computer is being obstruse and won't let me open it! The erineum could be...
M Redfern
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Feb 10, 2008
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Hi Jerry, We found these galls on a Holm oak in the Leicester Uni Botanic Garden in 2004. I have put 3 pics in my "Maggie's Galls" photos. Hope they are of...
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Feb 8, 2008
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Hi Margaret, In 2004, I emailed the pics of the Holm Oak galls to John Smeathers and he said that they could be Aceria ilicis but to keep the specimens for him...
Roy Frankum
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Feb 10, 2008
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Hi Maggie, I am glad John Smeathers is back in the fold and willing to ID mites for us. It's probably best to send specimens straight away when fresh, although...
M Redfern
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Feb 12, 2008
2:39 pm

Maggie, again, These look very like Aceria ilicis erinea. I understood from the description that the new galls were more of a pimple above and less extensive...
M Redfern
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Feb 12, 2008
2:41 pm

... description ... below. But ... Thanks everyone for all the feedback. Margaret is exactly right about the galls I have seen: discrete, dorsal surface of...
jrclough2
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Feb 12, 2008
3:42 pm

... about ... conspicuously ... is ... have a ... Another update: I have found galls very much closer to Maggie's pictures at two new locations: just N of...
jrclough2
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Feb 13, 2008
4:39 pm

I enclose a link to a set of scans of several leaves from two trees, the one in Kidwell Park (SU 885 812), and one by Maidenhead Bridge (SU 900 813). I have...
jrclough2
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Feb 16, 2008
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Hi Jerry, I've had a look at your pics - they are a bit dark [have you tried brightening them slightly in Photoshop Elements?]. The only leaves that seem to...
maggiefrankum
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Feb 18, 2008
8:24 am

Thanks Maggie for your cogent points. 1. I will fiddle with the pictures in Photoshop and re-post better versions. I wanted to get as many of the leaves I'd...
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Feb 18, 2008
12:30 pm

Hi Jerry, I'm riding on the back of this message because my computer had gremlins earlier this afternoon. Did you email me about the BPGS Invertebrates...
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Feb 21, 2008
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