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RE: [british_galls] Possible gall on Myrica gale?



Dear Scotty,
I have a vague recollection of Brian Gale pointing out this gall to me at a
field meeting - he is very knowledgable on mites (and has a very appropriate
name!). I'll see if he has any suggestions.
Janet

You wrote:
> Thank you for your information, I will take a picture as soon as
>possible (through a microscope).
>
> Unfortunately I only have English reference material, any chance of a
>translation? :o) All I have so far is 'mites?'
>
> Thank you and pardon my ignorance.
>
> Scotty
>
>Jojanneke Bijkerk <jojanneke@...> wrote: v\:*
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>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Hello Scotty,
>
> About your possible gall on Myrica gale…there is nothing about it in
>Docters van Leeuwen also, but I checked Buhr:
>
> Nr. 4379: „Rand der Befallsstelle des ± verbogenen Blattes mit enger,
>fester 5-20 mm langer Abwartsrollung.“
> Causer unknown!
> This part continues with:
> „Missbildung in Me (=Mecklenburg), Ol (=Oldenburg), 7-9 (10),
>verschiedentlich aufgefunden. Buhr, 1939. – Aus SK (=Skandinavien) wurden
>die Gallmilben Eriophyes myricae Roiv. (Nr. 4380) und Phyllocoptes myricae
>Roiv. (Nr. 4381) beschrieben (vgl. Krott, 1951), von denen vielleicht eine
>Art als Erregerin in Erwagung zu ziehen ist.
>
> Coulianos & Holmasen (Scandinavia) don’t mention Myrica gale at all.
>Please make some pictures sometimes, because if it is a gall it sure is
>interesting!
>
> Good luck with the Surrey-project!
>
> Jojanneke
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> Verzonden: zondag 5 november 2006 16:47
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> Onderwerp: [british_galls] Possible gall on Myrica gale?
>
>
> Hello all
>
> I recently found what would appear to be 2 tiny galls on the leaves of
> Bog Myrtle (Myrica gale). The 'gall'is <2mm in length and elliptical.
> It is manifest as a slightly raised pustule on the underside of the
> leaf towards the edge. It is light brown in colour and pubescent.
>
> I have collected a specimen as I was hoping to key it out in Redfern
> et al's book, however there is no entry for Myrica and no other
> members of the Myricacea family native to the UK (Rose, 2006).
>
> I have not yet dissected the specimen as I only took one sample and
> thought it best to attempt to breed it out, hence I am not yet 100%
> convinced that it is a true gall. I will look for other specimens for
> dissection in the hope of finding larvae.
>
> Has anyone in the group encountered this possible gall before? Any
> info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Voucher obtained on 02/11/2006 at Folly Bog, V17 (Surrey). SU 928 614
>
> Also...
>
> I would like to make contact with anyone who holds gall records for
> Surrey (V17). The Surrey Wildlife Trust Atlas project hopes to map the
> distribution of oak galls in a volume entitled 'The Oak Galls of
> Surrey'. There are also plans afoot to produce a checklist of all gall
> causers in Surrey (simply presence or absence). Please contact me if
> you are able to provide any records.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Scotty Dodd
>
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Hello all I recently found what would appear to be 2 tiny galls on the leaves of Bog Myrtle (Myrica gale). The 'gall'is <2mm in length and elliptical. It is...
jaapiella
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Nov 5, 2006
3:51 pm

Hello Scotty, Re the second part of your message re gall records for Surrey, I am the records data manager for the BPGS and I have just checked the database...
Janet Boyd
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Nov 5, 2006
6:37 pm

Hello Janet Thanks for the help. I will of course send you my records and any others that I come across. I will be working closely with one of your members,...
Scotty Dodd
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Nov 5, 2006
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Dear Scotty, Thank you for your offer of records - I am very keen to build up the database so that the society can help people with projects like yours. Indeed...
Janet Boyd
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Nov 6, 2006
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Hello Janet Any news from Brian Gale yet? I'm itching to find out more about this 'gall'. Unfortunately Brian Spooner is away for a couple of weeks so I...
Scotty Dodd
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Nov 13, 2006
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Hi Scotty, I have replied to this group about Brian Gale already but it doesn't seem to have appeared yet - odd! This message probably won't arrive until after...
Janet Boyd
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Nov 15, 2006
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Hello Scotty, About your possible gall on Myrica gale…there is nothing about it in Docters van Leeuwen also, but I checked Buhr: Nr. 4379: „Rand der...
Jojanneke Bijkerk
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Hello Jojanneke Thank you for your information, I will take a picture as soon as possible (through a microscope). Unfortunately I only have English reference...
Scotty Dodd
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Nov 5, 2006
10:58 pm

Dear Scotty, I have a vague recollection of Brian Gale pointing out this gall to me at a field meeting - he is very knowledgable on mites (and has a very...
Janet Boyd
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Nov 6, 2006
12:23 pm

... avail. I will try some other areas within the reserve throughout the week. S ... me at a ... appropriate ... of a ... Scotty, ... about it in ... mit...
jaapiella
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Nov 6, 2006
6:28 pm

Hi Scotty, My German is absolutely lousy, but I can give it a try. Translation Buhr: Nr. 4379: „Border of the location of infection of the ± bend leaves...
Jojanneke Bijkerk
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Nov 6, 2006
6:54 pm

Hello Jojanneke Thank you very much for the translation, your grasp of the German language far outstrips mine! Buhr refers to a tight downward roll of the leaf...
Scotty Dodd
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Nov 6, 2006
10:36 pm

Hello Scotty, I do not have any pictures and I wonder if they are available anywhere on the internet. On some websites was information about gall causing mites...
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Nov 7, 2006
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Hello Jojanneke Thank you very much for your efforts in researching web-links. Ecoport (the first link) 'looks' the most promising. The specimen I have is...
Scotty Dodd
jaapiella
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Nov 7, 2006
11:25 pm

Dear Scotty, I have had a reply from Brian who is in the process of joining the forum so you will be able to discuss this with him directly. Here is what he...
Janet Boyd
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Nov 14, 2006
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Thanks Janet I look forward to hearing from Brian. Hopefully it will turn out to fit his prediction! Scotty Janet Boyd <janetboyd_entomologist@...>...
Scotty Dodd
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Nov 14, 2006
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Hi Scotty, Looks my message did get through after all - I must have deleted it without looking. I remember now the species in question was Phyllocoptes myricae...
Janet Boyd
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