Mike

Where are you staying?
Then we can give you some good bar/restaurant places

Jo & Rich
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   Subject: [British Expats in Malta] Info on Malta Please


   We are acouple holidaying in Malta in January, can anyone give us
   info on bar prices,eating out, etc???



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We are acouple holidaying in Malta in January, can anyone give us
info on bar prices,eating out, etc???

--- In britishexpatsinmalta2@..., "markandsu2003"
<mgreensladeqs@h...> wrote:
> Hi, my name is mark and my wifes is Su. We are going to live in
> Malta in Jan 04 for 2 years. We have an 11 year old daughter who is
> in the last year of junior school. She will then be due to start
> senior school in Sept 04.
>
> Can anyone pleae recomend suitable english based schools that fit
> both junior and secondary?
>
> regards
>
> Mark

Our daughters' have started state schools in Gozo in Sept 2003. Our
youngest joined the primary stream in year 5 and is exempt from the
religion and maltese lessons. She has had the social studies
materials translated for her and her English and Maths lessons are
held in English. The school has been excellent in making her fit in.

Our elder daughter started secondary in form 1, though in the
Secondary stream not Junior Lyceum as she did not sit the end of
primary exam in May - she was doing her Sat's in England at the time.
She can re-sit at the end of form one. Again she does not have to do
the religion classes, her other subjects are taught in English, or
extra time is spent with her translatign from Maltese.

Both of the girls are going to private Maltese lessons each week and
are picking up the language - helped by their friends at school.

Hope this was of use

Robert and Liz

Are there any other British expat wives living in Gozo?

Hi Larry and Marie,

I don't know how much you already know, but there are 3 basic things to
bear in mind. Firstly as foreigners, the flat you buy must cost at least
LM30,000, or else you must guarantee to make expenditure on it to bring the
final amount up to that.

Secondly, if you need a mortgage you can get one here, but since you're not
allowed to work here (and probably won't be for some time, even after Malta
joins the EU) you need to bring proof of employment with you to show the
bank. One or both of you might need to take medicals here for the life
insurance that goes with the mortgage (I objected, and got a separate UK
based life insurance deal, which is much cheaper, but I had to make a fuss
to do so).

Thirdly, you can identify the flat and agree the purchase price and make a
deposit etc in January, but you won't be able to finalise the deal until
you get an API from the government. I think it stands for Alien's Permit to
Invest. Basically it is a search which the gov't does to check that you've
got a good character and sufficient funds not to be a burden here. Mine
took about 7 weeks, but the government is really slow and it might take up
to 12 weeks to get that. In the unlikely event they turn you down, you will
be able to get your deposit back if the notary has stipulated it in your
purchase agreement.

If you or any other list members reading this would like to participate in
a fun forum that has numerous boards on all aspects of ex-pat life and also
has a rather quiet Malta board (moderated by me) that I would love to build
up into something useful with a nice community feel to it, pop over to
http://www.britishexpat.com/expatforum/index.php

Good luck with your search!

Tim

Hi

Contact Fran at Dhalia she will help you a lot. Her e mail address is
frzam@... coincidently her Dad is Maltese and her Mum is Irish)

Jo
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   Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:55 PM
   Subject: [British Expats in Malta] moving to malta



   Hi, we are an irish couple mid 50's. We are thinking of buying an
   apt., in Malta in jan., we would appreciate any info., that would
   help us avoid any pitfalls along the way.
                                            Larry and Marie


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Hi, we are an irish couple mid 50's. We are thinking of buying an
apt., in Malta in jan., we would appreciate any info., that would
help us avoid any pitfalls along the way.
                                          Larry and Marie

Pioan5 has been removed from membership. for inapproppriate use of
the site.

Thanks to Mike Duncan for his message regarding Schools in Malta.
Does anyone know if any of the schools teach the English curriculum?

(if so can I please have any information possible)

Thanks

Mark Greenslade

Hi, my name is mark and my wifes is Su. We are going to live in
Malta in Jan 04 for 2 years. We have an 11 year old daughter who is
in the last year of junior school. She will then be due to start
senior school in Sept 04.

Can anyone pleae recomend suitable english based schools that fit
both junior and secondary?

regards

Mark

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--- In britishexpatsinmalta2@..., "uknails2003"
<uknails2003@y...> wrote:
> hi,
>    myself, wife and three children are hoping to settle in Malta
in
> 2008 (when i finish my 22 years in the Army). just found the group
> and already it's been a mine of information.  I have a few
questions
> if anybody would be kind enough to answer
>
> 1.  what are the schooling facilities like for english kids.
> 2.  what will be the major changes to house purchase, and more
> importantly, business ownership when Malta joins the EU?
> 3.  Are there any major pitfalls we need to be aware of once we
start
> our big adventure?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Andy

Hi Andy,

My husband is also ex army and we are moving to Malta in the New
Year (only just found this site)
The schooling is good although I believe it is private so you would
be paying for it.
The main thing I do know about property is that as with the UK it is
rising - very quickly - I do not know if this will change once they
are in the EU - it may even make it go up! We have been going to
Malta for 7 years and are going to rent when we get there so that we
can house hunt at our leisure rather than trying to choose in a 2
week holiday.
I do not know anything about business so I'm afraid I can't help you
there.
We have good friends there and my husband has found a job so we get
as much info from them, as we can, as we think of the things we need
to ask them we call them ( a £315 phone bill to show for it)!!
If you want ot ask any more questions feel free and I will try and
help.
Regards
Jo

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:08:00 +0100, Bob Connely <bobconnely@...>
wrote:

> You could of course move over and take the illegal course and work in
> Bars etc as a lot of people do but the pay is rubbish and no regulations
> exsist and always the chance of being found out and deported !!

And they do catch you too! - see this in today's newspaper:

http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=137580

Tim

Guys,

The current rules state if you are not Maltese you must have a work
permit and I agree it is very difficult to obtain unless you have
certain skills.
However, with Malta joining the EU in May 2004 things will get
easier. Malta has obtained an opt clause for 7 years where all
foreign nationals (inc EU citizens) need to obtain a work permit, but
after May next year this should be granted automaticly to EU citizens
as long as your area of work is not classed as an area which could
impact on Maltese workers ie if there is a suitably qualified Maltese
who wants the job they will probably get it! This will still leave
lots of openings in areas like tourism and the service sector - so my
advice to anyone is wait until May 2004! I hope this helps.  Mark

Its not that straight forward  I have been trying for the
last 4 years to re settle in Malta  . It is very difficult to
get work permits or a "Freedom of Movement" permit,it mainly
down to the complacentey of the Maltese also it is very much
a "closed shop" as far as foreign workers.
It is a catch 22 situation   no job no work permit and no
work permit no job.
You could of course move over and take the illegal course and
work in Bars etc as a lot of people do but the pay is rubbish
and no regulations exsist and always the chance of being
found out and deported !!
I have family living in Malta my daughter is married to a
Maltese guy  and I work for IBM as a Technical IT Specialist
and I have applied for jobs even gone for interviews  but to
no avail.

I hope this has not been to much of a "downer"  but if you do
find a way around there law PLEASE let me  know.

Regards

Bob Connely



---- Original message ----
>Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:50:23 -0000
>From: "barrycoultrip" <barrycoultrip@...>
>Subject: [British Expats in Malta] Moving to Malta
>To: britishexpatsinmalta2@...
>
>   Hi,
>
>   We are a british married couple who want to move
>   permanantly
>   to Malta. We are looking to rent an appartment in St
>   Juliens and
>   find employment once we are settled.
>
>   We are a bit unsure about what steps to take in
>   regards to visas
>   and work permits.
>
>   Do we need a permenant residancy permit or can we
>   just fly
>   over, rent an appartment and start working straight
>   away?
>
>   If we do need a residency permit, what are the
>   stipulations and
>   how do we aquire one?
>
>   Thanks
>   Barry and Gemma
>
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--- In britishexpatsinmalta2@..., "barrycoultrip"
<barrycoultrip@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are a british married couple who want to move permanantly
> to Malta. We are looking to rent an appartment in St Juliens and
> find employment once we are settled.
>
> We are a bit unsure about what steps to take in regards to visas
> and work permits.
>
> Do we need a permenant residancy permit or can we just fly
> over, rent an appartment and start working straight away?
>
> If we do need a residency permit, what are the stipulations and
> how do we aquire one?
>
> Thanks
> Barry and Gemma


try this Malta site.
department of information
www.doi.gov.mt/
hope this help you

i looking to rent a place out thier next year close 2 birzebbuga can
any one give me inform or web site to look 4 flats to rent

Andy,

I saw your message on the board. I am a Finacial Consultant living
and working on the island for a company called Forsyth Private Clients
(Malta)Ltd.

You questions were very broad, and it would take me hours to respond,
however, if you have want any pointers or help please let me know and
I will be happy to help - free of charge!

Good luck,

Mark

Any news on Dates and times ? let me know as I am also interested..



--- In britishexpatsinmalta2@..., "Rachel P."
<fartinfanny@y...> wrote:
> Suffering from A.C.D.C myself (alcohol consumption daily compulsion)
> I'm not above having a few drinkies during the week, but better
half
> might have a bit of a problem with it 'cos of work the next day
(Not
> trying to rub it in Ozric - honest!!) but I'll leave it up up to
the
> general consensus - I'm a herd animal at heart (NO cow jokes thanks
> very much!!!)

hi,
    myself, wife and three children are hoping to settle in Malta in
2008 (when i finish my 22 years in the Army). just found the group
and already it's been a mine of information.  I have a few questions
if anybody would be kind enough to answer

1.  what are the schooling facilities like for english kids.
2.  what will be the major changes to house purchase, and more
importantly, business ownership when Malta joins the EU?
3.  Are there any major pitfalls we need to be aware of once we start
our big adventure?

Many thanks

Andy

ANOTHER ONE HERE WHO'S UP FOR IT! Oo-er - that came out sounding a
bit wrong - anyway add another to the list - Friday's probably best
for us too if we get a little bit of notice.

By the way - Ozric, if you see this - How's the job hunt going mate?
And did you ever get to see Susan's body attachment?

I've just had a quick look at the membership list
of this group - I don't think many of us are
already living here! But I'd be happy to join in
once a month or so... I'm happy any night of the
week, but I'd prefer the place was close enough
to reach from Gozo. Rabat is fine!

Hope to see you there!

Tim

I was thinking of starting an EXPAT NIGHT one day during the week at
the ROMANS DEN in Rabat. I just wanted to know what would be the
best night of the week to hold this. The whole family would be
welcome and rather than asking questions on this website you could
ask someone personally. You could tap into years of experience from
British Expats living and working in Malta. What do you think?
Please Email me with your ideas.       Regards       John

Hi Group


i am at present still in the Uk but have a need to relocate to Malta
to live and work .


My daughter lives in Malta married to a Maltese with four children and
I feel it is time to spend more time with the daughter and
grandchildren.


I have been coming to Malta now for about 9 years two or three times a
year   so I know most of the good points and the bad,most urgent
though is the need to find employment I have been trying albeit not
very hard for the last couple of years to no avail.So any help, info
would be of great assistance


Thaks


Bob Connely

Hi!

My wife is half Maltese and consequently we have spent many holidays
in Malta (next one booked for May). We have 2 boys aged 4 & 7 and are
considering (maybe dreaming?) rellocating to Malta but have obvious
questions about education for the kids.

From what we have seen and from speaking to relatives the quality of
education provided in state/church schools is very good. Can anyone
speak from experience versus UK state schools?

Cheers.

Funny how different people have different perceptions of this place.

I am working out here and find it hard to imagine living here on a permanent
basis.

The wife and I are living in the St Pauls with our 2 year old daughter.  We
have been here since October 2002 but have not managed to make too many
contacts yet.  Maybe when the weather is a bit better and we can get out
more?

Gary


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To: britishexpatsinmalta2@...
Subject: [British Expats in Malta] New Member


Hi
Back to Malta at Easter, looking at property and just seeing if the
dream can come true sooner rather then later
Can anyone give me the times for Mass in English over the Easter
period, particularly one of the churches in San Pawl, I think its the
Church of Saint Francis and its in the old part of town.

Peace

Brian



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Hi
Back to Malta at Easter, looking at property and just seeing if the
dream can come true sooner rather then later
Can anyone give me the times for Mass in English over the Easter
period, particularly one of the churches in San Pawl, I think its the
Church of Saint Francis and its in the old part of town.

Peace

Brian

I moved here in June 2002, after visiting to view
properties in April. Before I came I checked
several estate agents' websites and made an
appointment with one of them. He was excellent!
We spent about 4 half days in which he showed me
a selection of about 20 houses, including going
back to 3 or 4 them several times. He also showed
me around the island and made sure that we
stopped for coffee and to recap what we'd seen at
various beauty spots! Buying here was a cinch!

btw that was Joe Mercieca, the Gozo manager of
Dhalia (www.dhalia.com)

Settling in has been very easy too. Everyone is
friendly, and often stop in the street to talk. I
feel as if I have become part of the community
very quickly.

The only 2 things I've noticed are - limited
selection of groceries in the shops. Especially
deli, tinned soups, tinned meals, and frozen
meals. The other thing is that you get what I
call a 'drip feed' of information about
bureaucratic things. Instead of being told up
front, you get told step by step, and until that
step is completed, they won't tell you the next
one. That can be a bit frustrating, but I'm
assuming that after a few months it will be over,
because the events - the house purchase itself
(notary was lazy and useless!!!), getting id
card, importing posessions etc - are one-off
events.

I suggest that you don't try to househunt in the
summer (mid-May through mid-Sept), it will be too
hot to traipse around comfortably, so you won't
be giving yourselves the best chance to find the
right place!

Good luck!

Tim

Myself my wife and son hav been livin here in Malta now for 1.5 years and hav
settled nicely,i would advice against buying  and rent first.There is a big
expat community here but the locals are very friendly also so u wont stick in
the socialising cattegory.There isnt a lot to do for kids i must admit unlike
the other holiday places such as spain etc,but on the otherhand it is very safe
here,only other disadvantage here is the strong maltese currency,a lot of
tourists are complaing how expensive it is gettin,but drink and cigs are still
very cheap.Hope this helps
  hethmar2002 <hethmar@...> wrote:My husband and I are planning to
move permanently to Malta later this
year/early next.

Can anyone tell us how they have settled in and any information re
buying house, living, socialising shich could be of help?

Many thanks.


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My husband and I are planning to move permanently to Malta later this
year/early next.

Can anyone tell us how they have settled in and any information re
buying house, living, socialising shich could be of help?

Many thanks.