cardiff-vale-vegetarians : Message: Re: [cardiff-vale-vegetarians] Looking for advice

Hi Nena,

I really feel for you - its a tough situation. Two things that sprang to mind when reading your mail:

1. You can get really tastey meat-like pure vege products from this online seller (see link below) - i have eaten a lot of this vege ham and vege chicken and it's delicious. Maybe it can satisfy your husbands palette as a substitute. I recommend the 'chicken ham' and 'vege nice ham' 'Vege spiced steak', 'vege chicken' etc - they're all very tastey! They're mostly vegan, with a few marked 'not vegan' which have some dairy ingredients. They're a bit pricey, but worth buying from time to time to create a bit of a change in diet. I've been in Cardiff for a few years and found it hard to get tastey vege hams and stuff, found this site the other day - have not ordered from them yet, but have eaten a lot of the exact products they sell when i lived in London and in Taiwan (i think they are made there).

When you open the link below, click the right side logo which takes you to their shop online, then choose the 'frozen foods' tab.

http://www.veggie-world.co.uk

2. Maybe if he's interested, he can read 'The Food Revolution' by John Robbins. It really makes anyone want to be a vege (maybe you have read it already?).

Other than this, just hang in there and I think he will change his attitude. There is an old saying that you can 'win people with love'. I can also relate to sometimes being stubborn and difficult to my wife... usually when i forget to appreciate what i've got. I think anyone in your husband's situation is very very lucky to have such a compassionate and eco-conscious family :)

Hope this helps,

All the best,

Reuben

--- On Mon, 30/6/08, nenastar2000 <nenastar@...> wrote:

From: nenastar2000 <nenastar@...>
Subject: [cardiff-vale-vegetarians] Looking for advice - Meat eating partner
To: cardiff-vale-vegetarians@...
Date: Monday, 30 June, 2008, 3:27 PM

Hi all,

I'm looking for some advice and I hope someone from here can help me.
My partner and I started dating February 2007 and our relationship has
gone from strength to strength. So much so that we're due to marry
this October.

When I met him he was a meat eater. However, when we went out for
dates he would only order from the veggie menu and would refuse to eat
meat in front of me. As time went by, he decided to give up meat
completely and join my children and I in vegetarianism.
All has been well; he moved in with us last August and he's always
been been happy with what I cooked.

About two or three weeks ago he told me that he was craving meat and
that he wanted to start eating it again. I was totally gutted.
When I gave him the reasons I (and most other veggies) were veggies,
it didn't matter to him. I told him about the way animals were
slaughtered, how meat farming is taking up land that could grow crops
that would feed starving people in developing countries etc etc, but
it didn't faze him.
I asked him why he'd bothered to become a veggie in the first place
and he said he did it for me. I'd not known this, I thought he wanted
to do it for himself and told him at the beginning that its something
he should do for himself only.

He's said that he will never eat meat in front of the kids and I and
he won't cook it in the house, but he will eat meat again.

Now, I know it's his choice and his right to put into his body what he
choses, but it just doesn't sit right with me. I can't help but feel
sick by the thought of him eating meat. It saddens me so much. Whether
he does it in private or in my face, I still know he's doing it.

Sorry, this is getting long.
I was just wondering if anyone has been in a similar situation and if
they have any advice to overcome this. I'm a 2nd generation veggie
bringing up 3rd generation veggies.
When he told me that he ate a chicken curry the other night I just
felt so sad for those chickens who no doubt would have suffered to be
on his plate.

Any words of wisdom gratefully received.
Thank you,
Nena.

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