Dear Peter,

In addition to your advice, it might be worth highlighting that
Peter Greenhill and Bill Taylor interpret the p35 figures very much
in line with current mainstream classical sensitivity by playing them
on the run up to the beat. Folks might want to consider playing any
number of the figures on p35 on the actual beat itself as per the
practice in folk song, Scottish pipe music of a similar structure,
Baroque music, etc; these vary from the mainstream in this respect to
one degree or another by striking certain graces bang on the beat and
it's well worth exploring this possibility for the notation.

If you're so used to current mainstream European practice that
playing gracings struck on the beat is difficult to do or even
doesn't sound as attractive, then it's worth training up your ear to
that sound as it was and still is a widespread sound despite the
influence of the classical mainstream.

Beannachdan,



Alasdair



--- In clairseach@..., "Peter Wilson" <larixx@...>
wrote:
>
> I don't know what others think, but if you're having trouble with
the
> symbols then get Bill Taylor's, "Sources for Fingernail Harp
Technique
> from Ireland and Wales". It's available from the Emporium at
> http://earlygaelicharp.info The symbols are transcriped into staff
> notation with fingering and damping. I'd also get a copy of "Two
> Worlds of the Welsh Harp" to hear how Bill Taylor plays them, and
then
> make comparisons with different players interpretations.
>
> Peter Wilson
>
> --- In clairseach@..., Barbara <harpnfiddle@> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for that instruction. I do have a copy, but didn't know
> how to
> > interpret it. I will use both together as you suggested.
> > Barbara
> >
> > Alasdair Codona wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Barbara,
> > >
> > > I hasten to advise you to look at the original notation as well
as
> > > the transcription. The transcription is not intended as a
> > > performance score to be played from as such - people do need to
get
> > > to grips with the original notation and the transcription will
help
> > > you do that. In a number of places, if you just play straight
from
> > > the transcription, it won't make sense. A link to a .pdf copy
of the
> > > original notation is given on my website.
> > >
> > > Beannachdan,
> > >
> > > Alasdair
> > >
> > > --- In clairseach@...
> > > <mailto:clairseach%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "Barbara"
<harpnfiddle@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am very new to this music and am finding your interest,
> > > transcriptions,
> > > > and comments very helpful. I'm not sure what all the symbols
mean,
> > > but I
> > > > have a recording of some of these tunes (Dooley) that I will
listen
> > > to
> > > > with your transcription in front of me and see what I can
make of
> > > it.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Barbara
> > > >
> > > > > I'm so glad someone's found these useful - already! I had a
> > > sneaking
> > > > > suspicion that there were people out there who just found
the
> > > > > original document too daunting to tackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone has written to me suggesting that I also put the
rubrics
> > > in,
> > > > > and I initially decided against doing that, but actually,
reading
> > > > > those is yet another daunting aspect of the manuscript that
is
> > > also
> > > > > perhaps well worth putting online.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know what you mean about some of these finger-figures - I
play
> > > > > these things as graces and I still can't say I've mastered
> > > > > synchronising my thumb and pinky application in plethiad y
bys
> > > bach!
> > > > >
> > > > > Beannachdan,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Alasdair
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In clairseach@...
> > > <mailto:clairseach%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "Peter Wilson"
<larixx@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Fantastic Alasdair! Thank you so much. By using your
> > > transcrption,
> > > > >> and Bill Taylor's booklet and CD I'm able to play Gosteg
Dafydd
> > > > > Athro
> > > > >> for the first time. I'm faking a couple of the patterns
with
> > > > >> different fingering for the time being- don't know if I'll
ever
> > > be
> > > > >> able to play tafliad y bys although no problem with krychu
y
> > > fawd.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Peter Wilson
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In clairseach@...
> > > <mailto:clairseach%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "Alasdair Codona"
> > > > >> <calumcille@> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > A chàirdean,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I've started putting up on my website my transcriptions
of the
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >> > ap Huw music.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The lead page for the transcriptions is at the following
web
> > > > > address.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > http://www.calumcille.com/telyngymreig/cyntaf.html
> > > <http://www.calumcille.com/telyngymreig/cyntaf.html>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The work is painstaking as I'm using ink. I expect to
complete
> > > > > the
> > > > >> > transcription sometime before Easter. Let me know of any
> > > > > ommissions or
> > > > >> > errors in transcription.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Beannachdan,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Alasdair
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>