Hi Frances

My Cuzner connection is a few generations back. The evidence I have gathered
indicates Elizabeth Cuzner was born c1797 in Frome, Somerset, England.
According to several records, her father was John Cuzner. Elizabeth married
John Scamell in 1820 at Marston Bigot in Somerset. Elizabeth's death
certificate states her parents as John Cuzner and Elizabeth Baldwin. I don't
have a high degree of confidence regarding the mother's name as it is the only
place I have found it recorded and the informant was a hospital porter, not a
member of the family.

I don't know if it is co-incidence, but John Scamell's brother, Richard married
a Mary Cuzner in 1814 in Corslet Wiltshire. I wonder if Mary and Elizabeth were
sisters....possible, but unlikely I think.

My searching over nearly 30 years has failed to find any record in Somerset or
Wiltshire of a marriage of Elizabeth's parents or a birth for Elizabeth.

I am inclined to think that Elizabeth is the sister of the John Cuzner who
married Grace Crisp, but I have no evidence to prove this, just that dates
appear to align.

Regards

Greg

--- In cuzners_in_their_genes_@..., Frances Fairweather
<francesfairweather@...> wrote:
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> Dear Greg
>  
> thank you so much that has filled in some empty space for me. Which is your
Cuzner line?
>  
> Very good wishes Frances
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> --- On Thu, 5/3/09, gregmclean58 <greg@...> wrote:
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> From: gregmclean58 <greg@...>
> Subject: [cuzners_in_their_genes_] Re: Hi Everyone just to go over our mandate
for Cuzners in our Genes
> To: cuzners_in_their_genes_@...
> Date: Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 9:18 PM
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> Hi
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> I don't believe I'm related to your line but I have collected some information
on them. Have a look at http://www.wact. com.au/Cuzner/ 161.html
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> Greg
> --- In cuzners_in_their_ genes_@yahoogrou ps.co.uk, francesfairweather@ ...
wrote:
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> > Dear All
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> > Very interesting to read all the @Cuzner e mails can any one help me with
the parents of Lionel Cuzner born 1794 in Frome married Ester Rolfe 1815 St
.John's Frome. They had three children that I know of, one being Jeremiah born
1821 Jeremiah is my Gt Gt grandfather. Lionel and Ester are buried in Vallis Rd
Cemetry.
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> > Many thanks Frances Fairweather
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> > --- On Wed, 4/3/09, stevecuzner <stevecuzner@ ...> wrote:
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> > From: stevecuzner <stevecuzner@ ...>
> > Subject: [cuzners_in_ their_genes_ ] Re: Hi Everyone just to go over our
mandate for Cuzners in our Genes
> > To: cuzners_in_their_ genes_@yahoogrou ps.co.uk
> > Date: Wednesday, 4 March, 2009, 5:28 PM
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> > I also think it is interesting to note that many of the Cuzners in Somerset
were weavers and this was a primary component of the Huguenot migrants to
England. The earliest Cuzner records I've found thus far are in the early 1700's
so I doubt that the Cuzners were part of the wave that came following the
revocation of the Edict of Nantes. It seems more plausible that if the Cuzner's
were Huguenot, they were part of the wave that came in the 1560 following the
St. Batholomew's Day Massacre of 1562. I believe there was a Huguenot church
established in Bristol in that period and a review of their records could be of
value. I haven't found these records online, so I have no idea. If anyone has
any thoughts on this line of research, I'd love to discuss.
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> > Steve Cuzner
> > Cuzner, Faulkner, Robinson, Tanner/Pepperell, Exton, Greenland
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> > --- In cuzners_in_their_ genes_@yahoogrou ps.co.uk, Martha Mitchell
<martha_a_mitchell@ ...> wrote:
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> > > I found in your letter the first connection of the name  Cuzner to
Huguenot/Alsace.  My grandfather, John Henry Cuzner was born in Westbury,
Wiltshire in 1872 and came to the US  by way of Sidney Nines in Canada, sometime
in the 1890's. It was my grandfather who told me, himself, that the Cuzners were
Hugeunots.  The little research I've done was noting the spelling of the name
and at one time I had a copy of French surnames from the UMass library.  I found
Cousinier, which seemed the closest to some of the earlier spellings found in
and around Frome.  If I remember correctly, Cousinier translated into "preparer
of food" and then I connected that to the fact that the Huguenots tended to come
from the artisan/craft class
> > of people in Europe.  We need also to remember that those  fleeing
persecution did not take an English  language course  before leaving their
countries of origin and that the English had their own way of interpreting what
they
> > > heard. We're also talking about the 16th and 17th centuries.  We may never
know the truth of the matter.  I commend you on your visit to England  with 
time  and the intention to do some real paper research.
> > >
> > > I've been able to trace my grandfather to Harry Cuzner back to Simon,
who's father was Thomas, mothe,r Ann Adlam, but the cyber trail drifts off. . .
> > >
> > >  Several of my grandfather' s younger brothers came to the US, while
others remained in England, as did his two sisters. I am in close touch with his
sister's families and managed to visit Westbury. a number of years ago.
> > >
> > > Martha Aldrich Mitchell
> > > Cuzner, Smith,
> > Burd, Adlam
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> > > --- On Wed, 3/4/09, neecuzner <neecuzner@ ..> wrote:
> > > From: neecuzner <neecuzner@ ..>
> > > Subject: [cuzners_in_ their_genes_ ] Hi Everyone just to go over our
mandate for Cuzners in our Genes
> > > To: cuzners_in_their_ genes_@yahoogrou ps.co.uk
> > > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:56 AM
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> > > Alot of people think The Cuzners are closely related or have some
connections to one another. I know in my research, I have been trying several
years to even find the origins of the name. I have been tearing my house
apart...for those who do not know...I moved late last year and have a house I
have been
> > packing alone though I have a roomie. I have MS so although not handicapped,
my energy leaves sometimes to be desired. Actually, have done a great job the
last few months. I should have laid my hands on that National Geographic Kit I
bought soon and sent off my DNA kit to at least start figuring out from my moms
side our geographical footprint many,many,many generations back which might help
point me in some right directions for my continued research.
> > >
> > > I have explored the Heugunot rumor with no success. There was talk of a
small country, very tiny never the Swiss Alsac border that was eaten up by War
Treatries that was home to many Cuzners. I have never found that country though
have tried to find maps. I have to find my notes. These were notes from a
conversation from an elderly gentleman on my travels. I make it a point of
phoning every Cuzner in every city I land in wherever I travel as well all the
Mee's my other family name. I have
> > been able to pull bits and pieces of information here and there. My cousin
belongs to the One Guild Name Studies and as of yet Cuzner is registered but its
origins not known. I have explored many Jewish sites with no success. I have
studied the language of names to try and find out something but no one can
figure it out. Some say Norman, some say German, some say Heugonot. My mother
had suspected because such a large cluster of Cuzners lived only in the south of
England
> > > which is true and they lived in Somerset in areas known to be attacked by
the Spanish that perhaps it was Spanish. I am not sure I agree with that. I
suspect it may be a Norman name though it does sound very exotic for a Norman
name. However, my mothers people looked very Viking in appearance. It is so hard
to say.
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> > > Anyway, I got off track.
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> > > We sort of have a few mandates here. One is to assist and support each
> > other with our searches with regards to finding our ancestors.
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> > > I would like to remind people that people that have been adopted into the
Cuzners family are also Cuzners and that blood is not the only tie that binds a
family to one another. If a bunch of decide to pool resources and do a DNA
surname test, then a course people who have been adopted would been exempt.
However, everything else applies. Support helping their ancestors,reunions and
hopefully supporting us as we are a sum of our parts.
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> > > I have found over the years, I come across a wealth of material that quite
often does not apply to me but have come across many others with same surname
and it might apply to them. I thought starting this email list was a more
efficient way to not duplicate the wheel.
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> > > Always keeping reminding people of your search criteria.
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> > > Always, end your
> > emails with signatures with all your surnames associated with your
name...because your Cuzner will be associated with more than one surname...for
example..My Cuzner is also associated with Pickford,Collins. Crisp and
Greenwood... there are more.
> > >
> > > However, always keep a signature at the end of your emails if you can
remember at the bottom of each email so people can keep your Cuzner family
straight.
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> > > Let us know how far you can trace your family geographically. If you can,
upload a gedcom to our files area here. You may upload pictures free here.
Remember if you are from another country, your parents, grandparents, or their
grandparents probably immigrated from somewhere else. There are all sorts of
ships records,census records,etc. to check out how immigrated where and when. It
is detective work.
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> > > I hope to get to England this year though a family emergency might
> > postpone the trip until next year. However, I will be spending a month doing
my Cuzner research finally in England using paper archives. There comes a time
when online no longer is an option.
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> > > However, as this group becomes bigger and we get contacts all over the
world, we can start getting each other to do leg work for each other. I can
check out archives here for someone in Australia and so on and so forth. So, I
think people understand now when I say we are bigger than the sum of our parts.
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> > > I also think it would be fun one day to hold a Cuzner reunion regardless
if we are even all related. Through marriage,through irth or adoption.... lets
be proud of being indirectly or directly Cuzners even though we dont know where
in the hell the name came from yet or what country it even originated from.
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> > > Renee nee Mee
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> > > Mee has not actually
> > been a cake walk either...and that seems to be English,Flemish,
Irish,Australian and get this Chinese....sometime s there is too much of a good
thing....though I had the name professionally done and they seem to think
Flemish though the Chinese also make a good case. I know when lived in a certain
neighbourhood in Vancouver, got lots of letters from Chinese Benevolance Society
wanting money. If they could have seen this fair skinned lass with auburn hair
that was 5'9'...they would have been quite shocked...I certainly was no
petite,darked haired lotus blossum!!!
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