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Re: Cuzner Origin

When I pull out my material, I will have to see if there is any footnotes to the
report. I did not pay a huge amount for the report so I would think it was a
form type of report for the surname. I think I paid about 100.00 or just a
little under that. However, I have learnt to accept no information as gospel. I
do keep an open mind though and follow up any lead wherever it may take me. Alot
of times it takes me nowhere. However, the journey sometimes is fun because I am
very curious re trivia which is often what information turns out to be when it
does not apply to my family. Sigh....

I am hoping when I get my DNA tested by National Geographic..I did buy the
kit..I just have to figure out where the movers packed it...that I will find out
some of the information re geographical historical genealogy. They can go back
hundreds of years. They can only trace my female line but since my mom was a
Cuzner that will help trace my moms family line. Actually, wondering if that
means..they would just trace her mothers line....mmmmm...have to look into
that.I am still learning this genealogical DNA as I go. I do know who to ask so
will get back to you on that question. However, if I can trace my grandfather
through my moms DNA that might help answer a few questions about geographical
origins. It does not definitively answer the question of origins but because it
can go back hundreds of years, it can trace immigration patterns and point one
in a direction. For example: Spain,France,Norseman,etc.,

Anyway, I hope all of us if we put our heads together will be able to solve the
mystery behind our name Cuzner. I just cannot figure out why there is so many of
us and yet no one knows where our name originated from.

Renee



--- In cuzners_in_their_genes_@..., "stevecuzner"
<stevecuzner@...> wrote:
>
> My research also tends to lead away from Huguenot origins and possibly Norman,
so I can't dispute this report. The thing that concerns me is that the report
seems to be based on similar spellings or sound and then lumps Cuzner with
Cousin. This is certainly possible, but what proof did this company offer up
regarding the connection? Are there Cousins in the Somerset, Wiltshire area and
are there any parish records that seem to link them? Also, the list of name
variants doesn't even include any of the known variants that we see in Frome
(Couzner, Cuziner, etc.). Was there any supporting references that they gave you
so that you could verify their claims?
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In cuzners_in_their_genes_@..., renee neeCuzner <neecuzner@>
wrote:
> >
> > Reposting this as we have had alot of new members since I last posted this.
It is in our files area. I had this surname professionally researched however
that does not mean it is 100% accurate. However, for the time being this is all
I have been able to obtain and I did pay for it and not through the net but a
company locally based.
> >
> > My cousin in England who is a member of the One Name Studies Guild is
convinced the surname is not Hugenot. He has spent years researching the
surname. I have not been able to find anything to support that either.
However,that does not mean he is right.
> >
> > Renee
> >
> >
> > Cuzner is a name whose history begins in 1066 with the Norman Conquest of
England. This Norman name was used for a person who was related to someone of
note in the area. Further research showed the name was derived from the Old
French "cusin" and the Old English "cousin," both meaning "relative." The
chronicles of England from early records the the surname Cuzner was of Norman
origin. The history of this name is interwoven into the colour fabric of the
history of Britain.
> > Careful research by professional analysts using such ancient manuscripts as
the Doomsday Book (compiled in 1086 by William The Conquerer), the Ragman
Rolls,the Wace poem,The Honor Roll of the Battel Abbey, The Curia Regis, Pipe
Rolls, the Falaise Roll, tax records,baptismals,family genealogies and local
parish and church records, determined that the name Cuzner was first found in
Yorkshire and in the southern counties of England, where the Cuzner family was
seated after the Norman conquest in 1066.
> > Many alternate spellings of the name were found. They were typically linked
to a common root, usually one of the Norman nobles of the Battle of Hastings.
Your name, Cuzner, occurred in many references, and from time to time, the
surname included the spellings of
> > Cousin,Cousins,Cozens,Cossins,Couzins,Cossens,Cosin,Cosyns and many more.
Scribes recorded and spelled the name as it sounded. it was not unlikely that a
person would be born with one spelling, married with another, and buried with a
headstone which showed another. Sometimes a preferences for different spelling
variations were due to a division of the family , or , had religious or
patriotic resons.
> > The ancestors of the family name Cuzner are believed to be descended
originally from the Norman race. the Normans were commonly believed to be of
French origin but, more accurately of Viking origin. The Vikings, uner their
Jarl, Thorfinn Roll, invaded France in about 911 A.D. After Rollo laid seige to
Paris, the French king, Charles the Simple, finally conceded defeat, granting
Northern France to Rollo. Rollo became the first duke of Normandy, and Duke
William, who invaded and defeated England in 1066. was in fact descended from
Rollo, the first Duke of Normandy.
> > Duke William took a census of most of England in 1086, and recorded
> > it in the Doomsday Book. A family name capable of being traced back to this
document or to Hastings, was a mark of honour for most families during the
Middle Ages and event to this day.
> > The surname Cuzner emerged as a notable English family name in the country
of Essex and other southern counties of England. The family name Cousins
flourished in the centuries following the Conquest of 1066,mainly in the the
counties in the south of England as well as Yorkshire. There are several
alternate spellings of the name Cousins but they are believed to be of common
origin. Some examples are: Cousens,Couzens,Cossins,Cosin and Cosyn. In Middle
English cosin means a close relative or kinsmen. The 'S' at the end of Cousins
signifies "son of."  It is recorded that Edmund Cosin was the Vice
> > Chancellor of Cambridge  University around 1558. Of note amongst the family
at the time was Edmund Cosin, Vice chancellor of Cambridge University.
> > The surname Cuzner contributed much to local politics and in the affairs of
England and Scotland.During the 12th century many of these Norman families moved
north to Scotland , following Earl David of Huntingdon who would become the King
of Scotland. Later, in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, England and Scotland
were ravaged by religious and political conflict. The Monarchy, the Church and
parliament fought for supremacy. the unrest caused many to think of distant
lands.
> > Settlers in Ireland became known as the "Adventurers for land in Ireland"
They "undertook" to keep the Protestant faith,and were granted lands previously
owned by the Irish. In Ireland, this distinguished family settled in counties
Limerick,Cork , and Wexford, where the name was spelt Cussen.
> > The news and rumours of opportunities in the New World spread like wildfire.
> > Many sailed aboard the fleet of sailing ships known as the "White Sails".
> > In North America, immigrants who shared teh family name Cuzner, or one of
its spelling variations included John Cosins who settled in Maryland in
1683;Richard Cousin settled in Grenada in 1774;Edward Cousins settled in
Maryland in 1774;George Cousins settled in Massachusetts in 1635; James Cousins
settled in Virginia in 1670;Jo Cousins settled in Georgia in 1735;John Cousins
settled in Maine in 1626; and some of the family who settled in Sherborn,
Massachusetts around 1665. Other members of the family name settled in Yarmouth,
Massachusetts. The head of the family was Moses Cousins, who claimed descent
from the great John Cousins, Bishop of Durham,England who was originally from
Norwich. From the port of arrival many settlers joined the wagon train westward.
During the American War of Independence some declared their loyalty to the
Crown, moved northwest into Canada and became known as the United Empire
Loyalists.
> > In recent history, notable bearers of the Cuzner surname include Admiral
Ralph Wynne Cousins, Us Navy; Norman Cousins American Editor and Author,
Saturday Review-World; Frank Cousins, British union Offical and Adminstrator;
and Philip Cousins, appointed Under Secretary to Her Majesty's Treasury in
1974,also, Professor David R.
> > Cousin, Emeritus Professor of Philosophy,University of Sheffield.
> > The Coat of Arms found for a bearer of the Cuzner surname did not include a
motto. Under most heraldic authorities, a motto is an
> > optional component of the Coat of Arms, and many families have chosen to not
to display a motto.
> >
> >
> >
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Reposting this as we have had alot of new members since I last posted this. It is in our files area. I had this surname professionally researched however that...
renee neeCuzner
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Mar 10, 2009
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My research also tends to lead away from Huguenot origins and possibly Norman, so I can't dispute this report. The thing that concerns me is that the report...
stevecuzner
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Mar 10, 2009
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When I pull out my material, I will have to see if there is any footnotes to the report. I did not pay a huge amount for the report so I would think it was a...
neecuzner
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Mar 12, 2009
2:38 am

Yes there is lots of parish records in Frome,Somerset. Alot of my information comes directly from Frome parish records that my cousin took directly from there...
neecuzner
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Mar 12, 2009
11:25 pm

While Frome and Somerset haven't made the cut to free bmd, There is an independent group doing significant research in the area and have posted many church...
stevecuzner
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Mar 14, 2009
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Steve,  Thank so much for sharing the web site.  I sat down with it late last night and finally had to be reminded it was 1:00 AM.  Sometime soon I'm going...
Martha Mitchell
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Yes, they are an excellent resource. I have going to their web site for years. I do alot of my research from their research. We are so lucky to have them....
neecuzner
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Mar 14, 2009
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I also was concerned that the report seemed to have more to say about similar names rather than concentrate on the Cuzner spelling. The Cuzners of Somerset...
veganfiddler
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Mar 28, 2009
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I have been to several of these surname reporter sites and never been able to come up with our surname in any variation because they only do samplings if they...
neecuzner
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Mar 29, 2009
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BTW. I did see the map and what two counties were those. I know one was Somerset. Was the other Hamptonshire? I am quite ignorant about exactly the locations...
neecuzner
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Here is an interesting twist on this topic. I've been researching the family of John and Rebecca (Gorrett) Cuzner. Of note, they have two/three sons Joseph and...
Steve Cuzner
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Mar 29, 2009
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Gigging is an occupation related to the Wool Trade which we all know was very prevalent in the Somerset area. I would assume a Gigman was a tradesperson...
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I can help out with the database. Go ahead and make me a moderator. ... From: neecuzner <neecuzner@...> Subject: [cuzners_in_their_genes_] Gigman..old...
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