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Re: Bute Park - new entrance design ignores cyclists

There's no electronic version that I know of.
I attended the council's cycling liaison group meeting today and the
question of this area did arise. Chris Powell from the parks
department was there.
In conversations I've had about the new development, a key point for
many regular park users (not just cyclists) seems to be the
possibility that the park will be used more for events. It's already
used for events, but the question is whether this will increase,
changing the nature of the park which is on the whole a tranquil
resource within the city.
I pressed Chris Powell on whether this was the council's intention,
and he did say that there could be more events in store.
I think this is the point that many will object to.
Nick Canham

--- In cyclecardiff@..., "Chris Morgan" <wappers@...> wrote:
>
> Is there an electronic copy of the plans available?
>
> This access should really leave priority for cycles and foot path as
> it will be for occasional access only and lorries should be able to
> pay special attention while accessing.
>
> -- Chris
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Max Wallis <wallismk@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > URGENT - for Council committee meeting on 19 March
> > - Latest Plans show zero regard for Cycling.
> >
> > The planned new cross-over for cars and lorries into Bute Park
> > ruptures the North Rd cycleway at the Corbett road junction.
> >
> > Some of us are opposed to the whole project for taking lorries into
> > the Park via this new entrance. But recognise that the entrance
> > would be valuable for cyclists to and from Corbett Road onto the
> > present cycleway and into the Park.
> >
> > Cyclists should object to the very design of the entrance, because
> >
> > # it gives all priority to vehicles - it's wrong for lorries waiting
> > to exit onto North Road to block our cycleway, while the hazards of
> > vehicles crossing from Corbett Rd have not been considered (will they
> > take the green traffic light as license to ignore us?).
> >
> > # the North Rd car park is ruptured (bollards at sides of access
> > road) leaving little vehicle turning space at the ends - the
> > vehicles will trespass on the cycleway with consequent hazards
> >
> > # there are no road-design features to facilitate cyclists to and
> > from Corbett Rd - ie. advanced box and feed-in lane from Corbett Rd;
> > central reservoir and advanced box ahead of southbound cars into
> > Corbett Rd.
> >
> > The highways officers have been concerned only about vehicle turning
> > movements, giving no thought to cyclists. Cardiff's Cycling Strategy
> > promises "cycle audits of all proposed Council Highway schemes" and
> > refers to the non-motorised user standards (DMRB) that the Cycling
> > Campaign demanded during consultation. But even with such importance
> > for cyclists, this promise has just been ignored.
> >
> > This new layout design came out last week - can be viewed at City
> > Hall ref. 07/02649/C - and we have till next Monday to respond.
> >
> > Do e-mail to <Developmentcontrol@...> ref. 07/02649/C,
> > saying there should be proper planning for cyclists and audit as in
> > the Cycling Strategy policy, if you wish including some above points.
> >
> > Max Wallis
> > (Cardiff Cycling Campaign - have sent in a detailed objection)
> >
> > PS. There is a Petition against the damage to the Park and further
> > information on
> > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/258751882
> >
> > http://gardengrabbing.blogspot.com/2008/03/chainsaw-massacre-protest-
> > bute-park.html_
> >
>





Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:37 pm

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URGENT - for Council committee meeting on 19 March - Latest Plans show zero regard for Cycling. The planned new cross-over for cars and lorries into Bute Park ...
Max Wallis
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Mar 13, 2008
6:32 pm

Is there an electronic copy of the plans available? This access should really leave priority for cycles and foot path as it will be for occasional access only...
Chris Morgan
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Mar 14, 2008
8:26 am

There's no electronic version that I know of. I attended the council's cycling liaison group meeting today and the question of this area did arise. Chris...
ndcanham
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Mar 18, 2008
6:37 pm

No Nick, the issue is not about more events; nor (Chris) is the entrance for "occasional access only". It's a 9-metre wide bridge (6m c'way for passing...
Max Wallis
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Mar 21, 2008
4:56 pm

Hi Max, We objected to Planning about the junction layout for this scheme but, as I understand it, not to the development as a whole. Is this a possibility at...
Ken Barker
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Mar 21, 2008
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