Hi Max,

We objected to Planning about the junction layout for
this scheme but, as I understand it, not to the
development as a whole. Is this a possibility at this
late stage, or is anyone else doing so?

Ken

--- Max Wallis <wallismk@...> wrote:

> No Nick, the issue is not about more events; nor
> (Chris) is the
> entrance for "occasional access only". It's a
> 9-metre wide bridge
> (6m c'way for passing artics) and 4-metre roadway
> plus 0.5m verges
> (compare present 2.5m paths).
>
> It's to take 20 cars/day for the Nursery and more
> for staff of the
> new Study Centre plus coaches of children to the
> Study Centre plus
> lorries for the increasing planter-supply business.
> Also to take all
> lorries and official cars to events on Coopers Field
> and the
> Blackweir field, each of which are currently served
> from the North
> Lodge and Blackweir entrances resp.
>
> To route all this traffic through the quietist part
> of the Park, and
> force longer journeys within the Park was always
> misconceived. To
> reduce vehicles in the Park to the minimum (claimed
> as the aim), they
> need to keep (improve) the present two entrances
> (plus third via
> Talybont), stop workers at the Nursery parking on
> site, but force
> them and visiting children to walk from the boundary
> (North Rd car
> park). And limit the size of lorries to the Nursery
> (no artics!) and
> restrict times to early mornings, at least until
> they improve the
> entrace through Blackweir (with expected move of the
> Ambulance
> Station).
>
> As for cyclists, the Council have not carried out
> the cycling audit
> required in the new Cycling Strategy for all
> proposed highway schemes
> and they ignored cycle movement to and from Corbett
> Rd (despite being
> told of this obvious need when they "consulted" the
> Cycle Campaign).
>
> Max Wallis
>
> 1.1.
> Re: Bute Park - new entrance design ignores cyclists
>
> Posted by: "ndcanham" ndcanham@...
> ndcanham
> Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:37 pm
>
> There's no electronic version that I know of.
> I attended the council's cycling liaison group
> meeting today and the
> question of this area did arise. Chris Powell from
> the parks
> department was there. In conversations I've had
> about the new
> development, a key point for many regular park
> users (not just
> cyclists) seems to be the possibility that the park
> will be used
> more
> for events. It's already used for events, but the
> question is
> whether
> this will increase, changing the nature of the park
> which is on the
> whole a tranquil resource within the city. I
> pressed Chris Powell
> on
> whether this was the council's intention, and he
> did say that there
> could be more events in store. I think this is the
> point that many
> will object to. Nick Canham
>
> --- In cyclecardiff@...,
> "Chris Morgan" <wappers@...> wrote: > > Is there
> an electronic copy
> of the plans available? > > This access should
> really leave
> priority for cycles and foot path as > it will be
> for occasional
> access only and lorries should be able to > pay
> special attention
> while accessing. > > -- Chris
>
>



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