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Re: New Cyclists

Please note that the Castell Coch ride has changed due the Eisteddfod.
I'll now be leading the ride the other way -- down towards the Bay --
in an effort to dodge the crowds. Please the What's On page.
Nick

--- In cyclecardiff@..., "germainecw"
<germainewalsh@...> wrote:
>
> In response to the recent discussion on this topic and to complement
> Nick's forthcoming Castell Coch ride, I will be leading a ride
> leaving from East Cardiff on Sunday 14th September. Whilst it is not
> as short as some we have led, it is primarily aimed at novice
> riders. Please put the date in your diaries and I look forward to
> seeing you in Penylan soon. Hopefully I can lead more low-mileage
> rides in the future and would be grateful for any route ideas that
> you can give me. Here are the details:
>
> Sunday 14th September PLEASE NOTE CHANGE OF STARTING VENUE
> Easy ride to Griffin Inn, Lisvane. Meet 10.00–10.15 outside Waterloo
> Gardens Post Office (off Waterloo Road), Penylan. Car parking is
> available. We will travel at the pace of the slowest rider, mostly
> on quiet roads and it will be flat until reaching Lisvane where
> there are some gradual slopes. The route will include the length of
> Roath Park, Fidlas Road and Lisvane Road. In the pub we will have a
> drink (snacks and meals are also available). Riders are welcome to
> ride back to the start with me or can make their own way home at any
> point on the return journey. Back by 1pm-ish. Easy: 18km (12 miles).
> Contact: Germaine Walsh 029 20619907 (Work) / 20486325 (Home).
>
> --- In cyclecardiff@..., "ndcanham" <ndcanham@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Not necessarily. Please refer to the Rides Calendar
> > (http://www.cyclecardiff.org.uk/whatson.html) which includes at
> least
> > one Easy ride in August. There will no doubt be another one at some
> > point in September.
> >
> > While you may be pleasantly surprised about what you're capable of,
> > I'd recommend caution about coming on any ride that feels like it
> > might be beyond your capabilities. Please see the notes on the
> Rides
> > Policy: http://www.cyclecardiff.org.uk/ridespolicy.html . You'll
> > notice a few sentences emphatically in red. We rely on people being
> > realistic about this out of courtesy to the wider group. It's far
> > better to work your way up gradually.
> >
> > --- In cyclecardiff@..., Paul Stacey <paulstacey16@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate and understand
> the
> > points that you have made. I think that for me I will just have to
> > bite the bullet and go for either a medium or long ride which
> every is
> > the soonest on the ride calendar. Thanks anyway. Paul
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, ndcanham <ndcanham@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: ndcanham <ndcanham@>
> > > Subject: [cyclecardiff] Re: New Cyclists
> > > To: cyclecardiff@...
> > > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 9:22 AM
>
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > There are a number of points here.
> > >
> > > In terms of how easy they are or aren't, I'm not sure how much
> easier
> > > we could make them. We could do a lap or two of Bute Park, but
> people
> > > can do this for themselves, and it has little motivational or
> social
> > > value. I'm sure we'd also get an even smaller turn-out since
> none of
> > > our regulars would show up.
> > >
> > > Riding to Forest Farm, Gelynis Farm, or the Norwegian Church is
> really
> > > about as easy as it gets: under 10 miles, flat, and largely
> > traffic-free.
> > >
> > > One of the group's aims is to promote cycling, but I wouldn't go
> so
> > > far as to say that our core aim is to promote cycling to the less
> > > experienced; it just happens to be among the things that we do.
> > > Personally, I'm proud of the fact that we offer easy rides at
> all. I
> > > enjoy leading the shorter rides, but I wouldn't want to devote
> more
> > > than a handful of my Sundays in a year to these because making
> time to
> > > enjoy cycling for myself is also important to me. We have a team
> of
> > > seven or so regular ride leaders, and a smaller group again who
> choose
> > > to regularly offer the easy rides. We try to make sure that
> there is
> > > an easy ride each month, but without more people offering their
> time
> > > to lead much easier rides than they would normally undertake, we
> can't
> > > put more of them in the calendar.
> > >
> > > In brief, the easy rides are there and they're available to
> those who
> > > want to take the opportunity. Ultimately, I think we offer as
> many as
> > > we can without turning them into an onerous task for ourselves.
> > >
> > > --- In cyclecardiff@ yahoogroups. co.uk, Paul Stacey
> <paulstacey16@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I really do think that you have missed the point in all this
> > discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Can I first say that from what I've read and the tone in which
> it
> > > has been written that the group has not been criticised for any
> > > failure on its part. Some of the comments about the website are
> > > opinions and I think anybody that has looked fully at the
> website and
> > > the history of the variety of the rides could only come to the
> > > conclusion that the group offers a wide range of rides
> throughout the
> > > year.
> > > >
> > > > The message that people like myself are trying to put across
> is that
> > > there are not enough easy rides to satisfy the needs of us as
> > > individuals looking to join the group. I can only say that
> having not
> > > joined the group is based solely on the fact that I am uncertain
> about
> > > being capable of completing some of the long rides based simply
> upon
> > > the lack of experience of actually doing such a long ride.
> > > >
> > > > Undestanding that the lack of experience is a problem for new
> > > members could well explain why the easy rides are undersubscribed
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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I have just joined and am encouraged by your apparent wish to cater for new cyclists as well as the more experienced. May I enquire what, precisely, is...
pjrw08
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Jul 22, 2008
9:26 pm

Hi John The "easy" shorter rides are not challenging and tend to be on the trails or quiet roads. I think that the meet venue is a good one because it's...
Ken Barker
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Jul 23, 2008
10:02 am

Cycle Cardiff has always aimed to welcome and encourage new cyclists and we try to put on a ride every month which is shorter and uses quieter roads compared...
germainecw
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Jul 23, 2008
12:37 pm

Thank you for your replies. I had no idea that cycling beginners would present such problems. What it comes down to is that neither you, nor the CTC, nor...
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Jul 23, 2008
9:27 pm

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Jul 24, 2008
4:35 pm

I have joined this group but I am not a member but I have considered joining a ride but I feel the same as pjrw08 that perhaps I am not ready for such a long...
paulstacey16
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Jul 24, 2008
4:43 pm

I've read the comments on the forum about our ride calendar with interest. I don't agree at all that we say anything which is misleading on our website. We do...
ndcanham
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Jul 26, 2008
11:08 am

I really do think that you have missed the point in all this discussion.   Can I first say that from what I've read and the tone in which it has been written...
Paul Stacey
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Jul 26, 2008
5:42 pm

Paul There are a number of points here. In terms of how easy they are or aren't, I'm not sure how much easier we could make them. We could do a lap or two of...
ndcanham
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Jul 28, 2008
9:22 am

Nick,   Thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate and understand the points that you have made. I think that for me I will just have to bite the...
Paul Stacey
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Jul 28, 2008
4:21 pm

Not necessarily. Please refer to the Rides Calendar (http://www.cyclecardiff.org.uk/whatson.html) which includes at least one Easy ride in August. There will...
ndcanham
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Jul 28, 2008
7:12 pm

In response to the recent discussion on this topic and to complement Nick's forthcoming Castell Coch ride, I will be leading a ride leaving from East Cardiff...
germainecw
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Jul 29, 2008
8:16 am

Please note that the Castell Coch ride has changed due the Eisteddfod. I'll now be leading the ride the other way -- down towards the Bay -- in an effort to...
ndcanham
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Jul 31, 2008
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