From: Max Wallis <wallismk@...>
Subject: [cyclecardiff] 'Crap cycle lanes'
To: cyclecardiff@...
Date: Thursday, 2 October, 2008, 2:11 PM

Cardiff's sub-standard cyclelanes were condemned by the Planning Inspector at the St Davids 2 Inquiry, particularly the 1.2 metres width for on-road lanes.  the Council claimed to follow the London standard of 1.5 metres.  And the London standards were formally adoped by the Council in their new Cycling strategy.

But to what effect?  The St Davids 2 contractors still put in a narrow cyclelane past Queen St station (including drain hazards and other bumps).  And even where there is abundant space in the multi-lane highway from the Leckwith junction, the narrow 1.2 metres width has been put in.

So Nick, is "not being robustly applied" doublespeak for "flagrantly flouted"?
And now Lou has had chance to respond, will you go back to the 'crap cycle lanes' proposal?

Max Wallis

Posted by: "Nicholas Canham" ndcanham@yahoo. co.uk
Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:03 am
.....  I thought it would be wrong to start mocking the various poor facilities without giving Lou Lusardi a chance to respond first.
..... ideally what counts as a poor cycle facility should be determined against the DfT infrastructure guidelines, London Cycle Design Standards, and wider advice on cycling practice such as the National Standards for Cycle Training.

.... I've had several discussions with Lou about certain facilities, and what is clear is that London Cycle Design Standards are not being robustly applied.