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Re: Cycling-in-Queen Street issue

I "feel strongly" about it.

Cycling on Queen Street is a lunatic thing to be supporting, and it's
crackpot ideas like that that legitimise the popular fallacy that the
place for cyclists is not the public highway that they are entitled to
ride on by right but meaningless strips of coloured tarmac in the
gutter, and reinforce the perceived right too many drivers already
feel to intimidate and put at risk more vulnerable road users.

You're perfectly entitled to follow your own agenda, and I speak for
nobody but myself here when I say that if you want to try and drag me
along with it too, then you can realistically expect to meet with some
considerable resistance.

Come off it indeed.


--- In cyclecardiff@..., "Max Wallis" <wallismk@...> wrote:
>
> Nick - what's this - no lobbying!
> Come off it. You wanted us to lobby for Sustrans' ranger programme.
>
> You have the Council document which gives a whole list of central
> streets they propose to ban cycling on during the day. Why not post
> the list on the website? Then all can see it's not just about Queen
> Street - and not just me who "feels strongly" about it.
>
> And on what basis does John go to Liaison meetings with the Council
> if he can't say what group members think of this proposed ban?
>
> Best wishes
> Max Wallis
>
> Re: Cycling-in-Queen Street issue
> > Posted by: "ndcanham" ndcanham@...
> > Date: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:07 am
> >
> > Max: I appreciate that this is something you feel strongly about.
> >
> > However, I think you attended our meeting in December at which there
> > was clear agreement that Cycle Cardiff would not engage in the kind of
> > direct lobbying that you appear to proposing. There were several
> > reasons for this, not least the fact the Cardiff Cycling Campaign does
> > this anyway. The Cycle Cardiff group are trying to be inclusive and
> > non-confrontational in our approach. We're also thinking more of ways
> > to direct our energies into projects that will attract people to
> > cycling, not scare them away.
> >
> > From conversations I've had, I'd say there are as many views on the
> > the Queen Street proposals as there are cyclists. For that reason,
> > trying to take a Cycle Cardiff line on this is only likely to be
> > divisive. I'd recommend we don't even try.
>





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The Cycling-in-Queen Street issue This is shaping up to a re-run of some 5 years ago - a militantly anti-cyclist Pedestrians Association using the Echo and...
Max Wallis
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Jan 28, 2007
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Max I appreciate that this is something you feel strongly about. However, I think you attended our meeting in December at which there was clear agreement that...
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Jan 29, 2007
9:07 am

Nick - what's this - no lobbying! Come off it. You wanted us to lobby for Sustrans' ranger programme. You have the Council document which gives a whole list...
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Feb 7, 2007
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I "feel strongly" about it. Cycling on Queen Street is a lunatic thing to be supporting, and it's crackpot ideas like that that legitimise the popular fallacy...
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