I'm a fall guy for nobody, and certainly not for your conspiracy
theory speculation.

Best of luck in finding a campaigning group to join you on your
fantasy propaganda hobby horse. This isn't it.


--- In cyclecardiff@..., "Max Wallis" <wallismk@...> wrote:
>
> martinonbikes - yet another fall-guy for the Council's agenda.
>
> They led the Echo on with the pretence it's about Queen Street, when
> the Council officers actually propose to ban cycling daytime on:
>
> Location Direction Location Direction
> Queen Street 2 Way The Friary 2 Way
> Churchill Way 2 Way St John Street 2 Way
> Park Lane 2 Way Church Street 2 Way
> Park Place 2 Way Working Street 2 Way
> Charles Street 2 Way Trinity Street 2 Way
> Fredrick Street 2 Way Wharton Street 2 Way
> Victoria Place 2 Way Caroline Street 1 Way
> The Hayes 2 Way Mill Lane 1 Way
> Hill Street 2 Way Hayes Bridge Rd 2 Way
> Barrack Lane 2 Way
>
> Tricking the journalist was simple - don't give them the document.
> But surely Council officers don't think we're incapable of reading
> past a couple of pages of platitudes and jargon to find this list.
>
>
> > 1.1.Re: Cycling-in-Queen Street issue
> > Posted by: "Max Wallis" wallismk@... maxw41
> > Wed Feb7,2007 11:20pm
> > Nick - what's this - no lobbying!
> > Come off it. You wanted us to lobby for Sustrans' ranger programme.
> >
> > You have the Council document which gives a whole list of central
> > streets they propose to ban cycling on during the day. Why not post
> > the list on the website? Then all can see it's not just about Queen
> > Street - and not just me who "feels strongly" about it.
> >
> > And on what basis does John go to Liaison meetings with the Council if
> > he can't say what group members think of this proposed ban?
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Max Wallis
> >
>
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> > Messages in this topic (4)
> > 1.2.Re: Cycling-in-Queen Street issue
> > Posted by: "martinonbikes" martnofafcb@... martinonbikes Wed
> > Feb7,2007 11:50pm I "feel strongly" about it.
> >
> > Cycling on Queen Street is a lunatic thing to be supporting, and it's
> > crackpot ideas like that that legitimise the popular fallacy that the
> > place for cyclists is not the public highway that they are entitled to
> > ride on by right but meaningless strips of coloured tarmac in the
> > gutter, and reinforce the perceived right too many drivers already
> > feel to intimidate and put at risk more vulnerable road users.
> >
> > You're perfectly entitled to follow your own agenda, and I speak for
> > nobody but myself here when I say that if you want to try and drag me
> > along with it too, then you can realistically expect to meet with some
> > considerable resistance.
> >
> > Come off it indeed.
> >
>