Hello Philip,

Thanks for all the helpfull advice :-) we tried to train my dobie with
a check chain as it was the prefered method of the trainer I hired.
however after months of walking up down left right etc.etc to stop him
pulling givng corrective jerks etc.My dobie just seemed to not give a
shit 75% of time and would pull on regardless anyway even if it was
choking him.He is very very headstrong and dominant even though he was
nuetered before we got him at 2 years old (he is now nearly
8).Apparntly I was told this was due to his Dutch and American lines
being bred to produce a more "aggresive dog"
as opposed to the english doberman? (we took him as a rescue off a
shop owner who couldent control him and who originly bought him as a
guard dog) Over the years we have managed to teach him sit, down, wait
back etc.etc But he is very single minded and headstrong.Even though
we enforce strict pack rules in the house.He is last to eat, is never
allowed on the furniture, last out the door, given attention when we
want not when he demands it all the usual stuff to let him know his
place in the pack.He still on a daily basis flouts the rules.We all
love him dearly but we just cant seem to get him to listen and behave
esp when on walks.I do realise this is my fault as his owner and that
there must be a way to correct this rather than tolerate the situation
as we have been doing for years.As now im no longer living in the
family home my brother hasent the paitence I have with him :-( I guess
I could try the check method again but im not hopefull..... :-(

-- In dobermaneuropeclub@..., "tavey_the_dogsblls"
<philip@k...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dino,
> Well where do you start?
> Firstly I think I should say that in my experience, the
> Dobermann can be a headstrong dog, but that doesnt mean they cant be
> trained. I have owned 3 in the past, and my present dog is no
> different than the other ones were in regard to training. You say
> that you used a choke (check) chain, but this method is completely
> innefective unless the chain is positioned properly. Always walk
> your dog on your left hand side, ensuring that the chain is worn so
> that the end to which you connect your lead is towards the left of
> the dog. This means when the lead is pulled it will tighten the
> chain. Always position the chain at the back of the ears, (and hold
> the end of the choke chain in your left hand, taking up any slack),
> and NOT at the base of the neck/top of the shoulders. When you want
> him to heal, say "HEAL" and then give a slight pull on the chain.
> Now don`t expect him to heal every time after this, you will have to
> be patient and continue this method, but in time you should just
> have to say heal and not pull on the lead.
> Dobermanns are a territorial dog, which means that they will
> walk at a certain distance in front of you. Try this where you can.
> Walk with the dog off the lead, and then turn in the other direction
> and walk. See how quickly he runs past you and keeps roughly the
> same distance in front of you again!!
> As you say, the dog is food orientated, so try walking the dog
> BEFORE feeding him, and bring some titbits with you to reward him
> when he does as he is told. Some Dobermanns are "dog aggressive" but
> so are many other breeds. This is more a social issue, and is
> something that can be sorted with the right interaction with other
> dogs. Thankfully I have never had this problem.
> If I can be of any further assistance, please let me know.
> Philip
>