Thank you Monique :)


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<mdutot@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>  It is possible to import a cropped docked dog to the uk but the
youngest it can be is 10 months old as if it bought as a puppy it
need's to go through the appropriate quarentine period before entry in
to the uk, if it's an older dog there after it may well be already pet
passported,and will be able to travel sooner, if they look on the
Dobermann reveiw site there are lot's of litters being advertised from
some country's where cropping is still leagal as well as older dog for
sale.
>  Hope this is of help.
>
> http://www.dobermannreview.co.yu/default.php
>
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Hi

  It is possible to import a cropped docked dog to the uk but the youngest it can
be is 10 months old as if it bought as a puppy it need's to go through the
appropriate quarentine period before entry in to the uk, if it's an older dog
there after it may well be already pet passported,and will be able to travel
sooner, if they look on the Dobermann reveiw site there are lot's of litters
being advertised from some country's where cropping is still leagal as well as
older dog for sale.
  Hope this is of help.

http://www.dobermannreview.co.yu/default.php


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Hi all,

I've had my dobie since he was a young un (he is coming up to 10 now)
and as such am not looking to add' another dog to our home YET however
I was wondering if it's possible to own a docked and croped dobie in
the UK after the docking ban? also if one wanted to obtain a dobermann
with croped ear/tail are there any reputable european breeders that
would supply a dobe in that condition to an English Owner?

Thank you.

Dino.

hello everyone!  Could anyone tell me if they are aware of any
dobermann shows coming up in Europe, my dog has clipped ears and tail
and can not be shown in the UK...message is a bit short and sweet
but...thanks!

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Hi,
   the problem has come back and we think it could be a form of hayfever. it was
about this time last year when it occured. The fields are used all year round
for various lifestock and are rested for a few months. We do though take her to
various fields and country parks, depending on the weather, as the fields flood
easily. We feed her hypo-allergenic food, as we were told to keep her away from
the additives that are in cheaper dog foods. We also give her cod liver oil
everyday to help her coat and joints. Is there anything else that you can think
of.
   Thank you so much for your help so far.
   Emma

Philip <philip@...> wrote:
           Hi Emma,

What are you feeding your dog? It may be that something you are feeding your dog
may not agree with him/her. My first dobe was a bitch, and she developed lumps,
like blisters, between her toes. My vet tried numerous courses of tablets, and
some worked, some didn`t. But when each course that worked had finished, the
blisters returned. I made the decision to change her diet, simply because I
thought, "if i eat something that doesn`t agree with me, it manifests itself on
my skin", just like acne. Ask your vet if their is anything in the food you give
your dog that could have this effect on their skin. I would bring the
information panel from the side of the food, (the one that gives you the protein
levels and the ingredients) to your vet and see what he says. I`m on my fourth
dobe now, and they have all had skin problems, but it has always been dandruff,
or psoriasis. It`s my understanding that this is common amongst dobermanns. As
for the possibility of it being an allergy to
  something in the fields, I take it you have been walking her over these fields
since you got her, but this is a problem that has just appeared? But it could be
an allergy to something in the food.
Hope this helps and keep me posted on how you get on.

Philip

----- Original Message -----
From: clarence
To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Doberman Europe Club] skin problems

Hi,

What did you find what really works, I have got the same problem with my
1 year old female doberman with mange and have tried different medicines
to no avail.

Clarence
--- In dobermaneuropeclub@..., julie parrott
<oxfordshipton@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Emma
>
> It might be worth asking your vet to check for demodectic
mange.....they take a skin scraping and it will tell immediately if that
is the problem. If it is, please let me know because I think I have
finally found a solution that works for older dogs. I have been trying
to clear it up on my 6 yo male dobie for two years now using different
prescribed drugs and washes and I've finally found something that is
working. It is caused when the dog's immune system is down for some
reason and the mites which live on every dog's coat and normally don't
cause a problem, multiply and the dog keeps scratching and scratching -
losing hair and if it continues,
>
> All the vets I have spoken to say that it is hereditary and it is
found in Dobermanns (and other breeds as well). My dobie boy had a
magnificent coat before the first outbreak. He got stressed when I went
overseas on holidays even though he stayed in his same environment ie at
home with the rest of the family.
>
> Let me know if the tests show that this is the problem.
> cheers
> Julie
>
> "ej.2411" ej.2411@... wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
> 1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
> She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
> their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
> don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
> all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
> they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
> her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
> mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
> tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
> Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
> and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
> blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
> to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
> serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
> grateful.
> Emma
>
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Hi,
   Thanks for the advice. The tiny blisters have thankfully gone now, without any
need for the vet. We think she may have run through some stinging nettles when
she had her daily run in a nearby field. The field is normally used for hay
growing, so everything is left to grow. We've taken her to another field where
the grass is shorter and she hasn't had a problem. We've spoken to a few people
and we think she may be allergic to something that grows at this time of year.
It was about this time when she had the lumps before and her hair began to thin
aswell. Over the last 2 weeks her hair has begun to thin again, luckily not as
bad as last year though. Do you know of any cases of doggie hayfever? it seems
that by august her hair starts to grow back again. The hair only seems to thin
on her underside/ belly and the rest of her coat is it's normal shinny thick
self. She has hypo-allergenic food along with cod liver oil each day, so i don't
know what else to do. We've even tried
  e45 cream on her belly, where the dundruff is worse and it seems to be helping.
   Thank you again for you help and i will speak to our vet about the posibility
of mange.
   Emma

julie parrott <oxfordshipton@...> wrote:
           Hi Emma

It might be worth asking your vet to check for demodectic mange.....they take a
skin scraping and it will tell immediately if that is the problem. If it is,
please let me know because I think I have finally found a solution that works
for older dogs. I have been trying to clear it up on my 6 yo male dobie for two
years now using different prescribed drugs and washes and I've finally found
something that is working. It is caused when the dog's immune system is down for
some reason and the mites which live on every dog's coat and normally don't
cause a problem, multiply and the dog keeps scratching and scratching - losing
hair and if it continues,

All the vets I have spoken to say that it is hereditary and it is found in
Dobermanns (and other breeds as well). My dobie boy had a magnificent coat
before the first outbreak. He got stressed when I went overseas on holidays even
though he stayed in his same environment ie at home with the rest of the family.

Let me know if the tests show that this is the problem.
cheers
Julie

"ej.2411" <ej.2411@...> wrote:
Hi,
I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
grateful.
Emma

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Hello.

Just to share something with you all about my experience last month.

I was out walking in the country with my male dobermann.  He was on his
lead, when I noticed a man and a dog coming towards us, They were quite far
away and the dog began to stalk us.  He called his dog but it ignored him,
and then ran at us.  The man did nothing to stop it, didn’t run after it or
shout.  The dog was extreemely aggrressive and jumped onto my dogs back and
was biting him and growling, I was very scared as it was a very large dog
(probably a rottie crossed with a german shepherd).  I tried to intervene
but his dog growled and I felt would bite me.  My dog got a fright but
suddenly began growling and getting angry- he was getting hurt after all!

I was very scared and told the man it was unacceptable to have such a dog
off the leed! He simply said its his fuc*ing right to walk it off the leed
and that i was a silly bastard for getting bothered about it.  I was angry
because he made no effort to get his dog away or admit he was wrong.

I called the police, however they didn’t return my call.

I am worried that my dog has developed a fear of large dogs now, as he yelps
if a dog aproaches him.  I am not sure what to do now.  He didn’t suffer and
breaks in his skin from the attack but has been left traumatised slightly,
as have I.

Any advice would be helpful and any infor on what should be done would be
greatful.

Kind Regards
From Robbie and Blade the doberman.
x

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>Reply-To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>Subject: [Doberman Europe Club] Looking to rehome a Doberman
>Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:01:13 -0000
>
>We have 2 Dobermans, one dog and one bitch, and we are considering
>rehoming the dog. He is nearly two years old, brown/tan, is well
>trained and brings us a lot of joy. He is healthy and there hasn't been
>any major behavioural issues with him.
>
>The reason we are thinking of rehoming him is a change in our working
>situation (one of us used to be homebased), and we feel he may be
>better of with someone else.
>
>We would be looking for experienced Doberman owners, who want a dog who
>is keen to learn, needs a lot of physical and mental stimulation, and
>ideally based in South London.
>If anyone is interested or knows of people, please email me on
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Hi Clarence

   I am sorry to hear that your girl has this horrible mange.  I've had dobies
for 26 years and it is the first time that I have ever come across it, although
apparently it is a problem in Dobies (and other breeds as well!!). It is
believed to be hereditary.

   Have you had skin scrapping done to determine that it is definitely demodectic
mange......Have you had your girl's thyroid levels checked....Kai's were low and
he is on thyroid medication to try and boost his immune system.

   I had managed to bring it under control three times before with a mixture of
different drugs and washes, but it would always come back if he got the
slightest bit "stressed" and the last bout there was nothing to have stressed
him...it just started....each new episode was much worse than the one before.

   This time he would not stop scratching his face and his body and it was just 
terrible - swollen and scabs totally covering three quarters of his face and you
could hardly see his eye from the swelling and scabs....there was nothing I
could do to stop him scratching or rubbing his face.....I was almost at the
stage of seriously thinking of putting him to sleep because nothing was working
anymore.  If you had seen a photo, you would have thought he was a very poor dog
that lived on the streets rather than a very very much loved dobie boy.
   Before I started this last treatment, the vet found over 10 mites on Kai's
skin scrapping and he said he just gave up counting so it was very bad. (in a
healthy dog you would be searching to even find one mite)

   I live in Sydney, Australia .  I go to  the best vet clinic in NSW and the vet
there didn't have any more suggestions to try after it kept coming back.  A new
vet came to  work at clinic....he had been working up in the Northern Territory
(tropical type climate) and apparently it is quite a problem up there.  He has
had fantastic success with a drug called Ivermectin which is in a  product is
Ivomec - the antiparasitic injection for cattle.  There are different Ivomec
products but it must be this particular one.   You give it orally.

   My boy is about 40kgs and I am giving him 2.5ml every day  - for three months.
It tastes lousy and they hate it so I always quickly give him something tasty to
eat as soon as I have given it to him.  He has been on it for nearly a month and
the difference is really amazing.  I could not be more pleased....he has stopped
scratching, his face is healing and most of the scabs and sores have
gone......the hair is starting to grow back all over his body.

   After three months of treatment, the vet will do a skin scraping to see if
there are still mites present and then again a month after that.  The vet said
that up until now he has had 100% success rate but, as you know, there is never
a guarantee but so far it is a fantastic improvement.

   It is much much cheaper to buy Ivomec on the internet or through a
agricultural produce store...my vet wanted to charge me A$900 for the drug!!!
but I could have bought it on the internet for A$260....I ended up buying it
through a agricultural produce store for A$180!!!!! - far cry from what the vet
wanted to charge me.

   But I can't stress how important it is to speak to your vet, have a thyroid
test and skin scraping done and then get the right dosage prescribed for your
girl.  It is a very potent drug, especially as you are giving it every day and
if you give too much (it is relevant to their body weight),  you can kill her.
I measure it very carefully each day!!!!!!   Ivermectin is the drug which is
used in worming and heartworm medication as well.  If you google both Ivermectin
and Ivomec, there is lots of information on the internet.

   A friend has used it on his working kelpie and it totally cured the problem.

   My vet (and all the information on the internet) say that it is much easier to
get rid of  DM in younger dogs......but when it appears in older dogs, it is
much much harder to cure ... so you have that big advantage as she is only 12
months.  Apparently in the younger dogs, once it is cured, it normally stays
away.

   Hope this helps.   Let me know how you get on or if I can be of any more help
but please do not give the drug to her without getting your vet's advice on
dosage.

   cheers
   Julie

clarence <clarenceschwind@...> wrote:

Hi,

What did you find what really works, I have got the same problem with my
1 year old female doberman with mange and have tried different medicines
to no avail.

Clarence
--- In dobermaneuropeclub@..., julie parrott
<oxfordshipton@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Emma
>
> It might be worth asking your vet to check for demodectic
mange.....they take a skin scraping and it will tell immediately if that
is the problem. If it is, please let me know because I think I have
finally found a solution that works for older dogs. I have been trying
to clear it up on my 6 yo male dobie for two years now using different
prescribed drugs and washes and I've finally found something that is
working. It is caused when the dog's immune system is down for some
reason and the mites which live on every dog's coat and normally don't
cause a problem, multiply and the dog keeps scratching and scratching -
losing hair and if it continues,
>
> All the vets I have spoken to say that it is hereditary and it is
found in Dobermanns (and other breeds as well). My dobie boy had a
magnificent coat before the first outbreak. He got stressed when I went
overseas on holidays even though he stayed in his same environment ie at
home with the rest of the family.
>
> Let me know if the tests show that this is the problem.
> cheers
> Julie
>
> "ej.2411" ej.2411@... wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
> 1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
> She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
> their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
> don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
> all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
> they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
> her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
> mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
> tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
> Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
> and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
> blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
> to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
> serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
> grateful.
> Emma
>
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Hi Emma,

  What are you feeding your dog? It may be that something you are feeding your
dog may not agree with him/her. My first dobe was a bitch, and she developed
lumps, like blisters, between her toes. My vet tried numerous courses of
tablets, and some worked, some didn`t. But when each course that worked had
finished, the blisters returned. I made the decision to change her diet, simply
because I thought, "if i eat something that doesn`t agree with me, it manifests
itself on my skin", just like acne. Ask your vet if their is anything in the
food you give your dog that could have this effect on their skin. I would bring
the information panel from the side of the food, (the one that gives you the
protein levels and the ingredients) to your vet and see what he says. I`m on my
fourth dobe now, and they have all had skin problems, but it has always been
dandruff, or psoriasis. It`s my understanding that this is common amongst
dobermanns. As for the possibility of it being an allergy to something in the
fields, I take it you have been walking her over these fields since you got her,
but this is a problem that has just appeared?  But it could be an allergy to
something in the food.
Hope this helps and keep me posted on how you get on.

Philip

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: clarence
   To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
   Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:56 AM
   Subject: Re: [Doberman Europe Club] skin problems



   Hi,

   What did you find what really works, I have got the same problem with my
   1 year old female doberman with mange and have tried different medicines
   to no avail.

   Clarence
   --- In dobermaneuropeclub@..., julie parrott
   <oxfordshipton@...> wrote:
   >
   > Hi Emma
   >
   > It might be worth asking your vet to check for demodectic
   mange.....they take a skin scraping and it will tell immediately if that
   is the problem. If it is, please let me know because I think I have
   finally found a solution that works for older dogs. I have been trying
   to clear it up on my 6 yo male dobie for two years now using different
   prescribed drugs and washes and I've finally found something that is
   working. It is caused when the dog's immune system is down for some
   reason and the mites which live on every dog's coat and normally don't
   cause a problem, multiply and the dog keeps scratching and scratching -
   losing hair and if it continues,
   >
   > All the vets I have spoken to say that it is hereditary and it is
   found in Dobermanns (and other breeds as well). My dobie boy had a
   magnificent coat before the first outbreak. He got stressed when I went
   overseas on holidays even though he stayed in his same environment ie at
   home with the rest of the family.
   >
   > Let me know if the tests show that this is the problem.
   > cheers
   > Julie
   >
   > "ej.2411" ej.2411@... wrote:
   > Hi,
   > I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
   > 1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
   > She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
   > their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
   > don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
   > all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
   > they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
   > her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
   > mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
   > tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
   > Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
   > and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
   > blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
   > to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
   > serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
   > grateful.
   > Emma
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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Hi,

What did you find what really works, I have got the same problem with my
1 year old female doberman with mange and have tried different medicines
to no avail.

Clarence
--- In dobermaneuropeclub@..., julie parrott
<oxfordshipton@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Emma
>
> It might be worth asking your vet to check for demodectic
mange.....they take a skin scraping and it will tell immediately if that
is the problem. If it is, please let me know because I think I have
finally found a solution that works for older dogs. I have been trying
to clear it up on my 6 yo male dobie for two years now using different
prescribed drugs and washes and I've finally found something that is
working. It is caused when the dog's immune system is down for some
reason and the mites which live on every dog's coat and normally don't
cause a problem, multiply and the dog keeps scratching and scratching -
losing hair and if it continues,
>
> All the vets I have spoken to say that it is hereditary and it is
found in Dobermanns (and other breeds as well). My dobie boy had a
magnificent coat before the first outbreak. He got stressed when I went
overseas on holidays even though he stayed in his same environment ie at
home with the rest of the family.
>
> Let me know if the tests show that this is the problem.
> cheers
> Julie
>
> "ej.2411" ej.2411@... wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
> 1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
> She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
> their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
> don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
> all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
> they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
> her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
> mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
> tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
> Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
> and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
> blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
> to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
> serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
> grateful.
> Emma
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We have 2 Dobermans, one dog and one bitch, and we are considering
rehoming the dog. He is nearly two years old, brown/tan, is well
trained and brings us a lot of joy. He is healthy and there hasn't been
any major behavioural issues with him.

The reason we are thinking of rehoming him is a change in our working
situation (one of us used to be homebased), and we feel he may be
better of with someone else.

We would be looking for experienced Doberman owners, who want a dog who
is keen to learn, needs a lot of physical and mental stimulation, and
ideally based in South London.
If anyone is interested or knows of people, please email me on
muttorg@....

Hi Emma

   It might be worth asking your vet to check for demodectic mange.....they take
a skin scraping and it will tell immediately if that is the problem.  If it is,
please let me know because I think I have finally found a solution that works
for older dogs.  I have been trying to clear it up on my 6 yo male dobie for two
years now using different prescribed drugs and washes and I've finally found
something that is working.  It is caused when the dog's immune system is down
for some reason and the mites which live on every dog's coat and normally don't
cause a problem, multiply and the dog keeps scratching and scratching - losing
hair and if it continues,

   All the vets I have spoken to say that it is hereditary and it is found in
Dobermanns (and other breeds  as well).  My dobie boy had a magnificent coat
before the first outbreak.  He got stressed when I went overseas on holidays
even though he stayed in his same environment ie at home with the rest of the
family.

   Let me know if the tests show that this is the problem.
   cheers
   Julie

"ej.2411" <ej.2411@...> wrote:
           Hi,
I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
grateful.
Emma





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Hi,
I'm a new member and i hoping that somebody can help me. I have a 2
1/2 year old female doberman and i've had her for just over a year.
She was a rescue dog from wood green animal shelter. The shelter did
their best to give us some history on her, but there is alot we still
don't know. Not long after we got her she started getting small lumps
all over her chest and some grew quite big. The vet removed them and
they were just fatty lumps and she was given antibiotics. They cleared
her skin up. She has always had dandruff and we've found that the very
mild dandruff shampoos clear it up, but recently she has developed
tiny blisters on her belly and at the top of her thighs.
Is there a particular skin problem that most dobermans suffer with ?
and if some what's the best way to treat it? At the moment the
blisters aren't bothering her and i don't know if she's just allergic
to something in the fields where she goes walking or if it is a more
serious skin problem. If anybody has any ideas i would be most
grateful.
Emma

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Hi Robbie

   If I read your post correctly, you have had your dobie for 18 months?  Has
there been any improvement at all in his temperament (confidence) or condition. 
It sounds to me like your breeder was a puppy mill and that is a pretty hard
start for any puppy.

   Perhaps his reaction to people coming "to the door" is a result of what
happened to him as a puppy in that "shed" when people came in.....from what I
have read, it is a horrible existence for a dog.....and he had very little
exposure to life outside that shed.    But with love and reassurance, I would
have expected a change in the behaviour after 18 months.  It is like children
who are never socialised and handled (eg the Romanian orphans who were left in
the institutions).  The dog would not have been explosed to all the things that
a normal well socialised puppy has experienced and it is scarey for them.

   The initial vomiting could have been caused by the change in diet and his
stomach adjusting to different  (read better) food.  The wetting when people
come to the door is also a nervous reaction....which as the dog gains confidence
in himself and surroundings should go away - unless there was an underlying
health reason.

   Skin - I would definitely be getting a second opinion from another vet.  There
are a lot of different reasons for skin outbreaks.  Google "mange" and you will
be able to learn a lot and identify if your dog has the symptoms for either
demodectic or sarcoptic manage.   I have a very beautiful 7 yo male dobie - He
never had any skins problems and had a really brilliant coat.  The demodectic
mange started when he was 5 (he got stressed when I went away on holidays for 8
weeks even though he was still living in the same house with my grown up kids). 
It is a horrible condition to try and get rid of of when they are older.  (I
have been able to get it under control three times but now it is back with a
vengenance but that is a whole different story.   It is a lot easier to treat
when the dogs are younger.

   The vet should check his thyroid and do a skin scraping to see if there are
any mites.   Demodectic mange is caused by a immune deficiency initially (stress
can start it) and the dog's body cannot cope with the mites in the coat.  All
dogs have mites in their coats and normally they are kept in balance if their
immune systems are strong.   It certainly started as you are describing.  But
there are other skin problems that could also have the same symptoms.

   Please find another reputable vet asap to get a second opinion.   Not being
interested in his surroundings....could be because he is just not feeling well
or has low thyroid (this can be fixed) ... does he have a hearing or sight issue
to do you think.  Get a dog chiropractor to look at his spine?  I rescued a very
underweight rottweiller girl who had back issues caused by bad diet when she was
a puppy....we were able to do a lot to help it.

   Good luck with him....it sounds like he had a pretty rough start to life and
hopefully you can make life a whole lot better for him.  I'd be  very interested
in hearing more about your boy.

   regards
   Julie

   PS:  Has anyone had any success in getting the demodectic mange under control
in older dogs... I go to one of the best vets in Australia and I have tried all
the normal things .  He is happy and fit within himself - not scratching all the
time but looks  terrible..... special washes (this actually made it worse!),
drug combinations (initially cleared it up really well  - three times over a 2
year period - but it kept coming back)     But the vet said that those drugs
will not work at this stage.   Daily thyroid tablets.   The last resort left is
is to use small doses of  Ivermectin daily for 3 months...apparently this has
been very successful...does anyone have any other advice please or any ideas
where I can buy the Ivermectin (Ivomac for Cattle given orally) on line.  The
vet said it will be $900 from them which is a ridiculous price. (it is used for
drenching cattle so should be available on line at a reasonable price).

   I would be grateful for all advice please

   cheers
   Julie

robbie kerr <robbiekerr@...> wrote:
           Hello ebveryone

Can anyone help me please?

I bought a dobermann puppy 1 half years ago.

He is a dog.

when I got him from the breeder he was in a shed with many other pups, and
upon returning home he has severe darohea all over my house for a few days
until I took him to the vet and they treated him.

Unfortunately now he is still not healthy and has lumps all over his skin
and beneath his chin on the mizzle area there are large spots which burst
and bleed when I play with him.

Sometimes when someone comes to the door he does not bark but whines and
then wets all over my hall.

Why does he behave like this and is it normal? I read that lomps on the
skin can sometomes be called dog acne? Is this likely to bleed?

He also never barks or growls and is often not very aware of his
surroundings. He sometomes vomits in the morning too and his coat has very
severe dandruff. It's upsetting to see my dog like this but the vet does
not seem too worried about him. Can you please give me some advice about my
dog and what i can do to help him.

I have tried many products to help him with his coat and skin but atraight
after bathing him the dandruff returns. He looks unwell too as his spine is
curved not straight like other dobermann dogs i have seen. His tail is
sloaped down. He has a reasonable temperment but is for some reason
sometimes not interestred in his surroundings and whines a lot.

Please Help

Thank you for reading my message.

Rob

>From: LuSwinton@...
>Reply-To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>Subject: [Doberman Europe Club] FDA warns Iams Co. about chemical in food
>for overweight pets
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:05:50 EDT
>
>For your information/cross posting:
>
>
>
>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/agriculture/story.html?id=dfddca69-f9bc-4ffe-\
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Hi Rob
   First up, it could well be canine acne, most common in short haired breeds,
especially dobermans and boxers. My female dobe also had this condition and it
was treated affectively with antibiotics, your dobe sounds as though he has an
'acute infection' within his acne so I suggest you make another visit to the
vets. As for wetting when someone knocks on your door this could simply be
excitement. But in all honesty, I would take your canine friend to a new vet
thats shows more consideration when assessing his patients, if your dog whines
sometimes for no real reason, he could be in some sort of pain, so get a second
opinion, also vomiting is not at all normal. Best of luck and let me know what
happens
   Kind regards Leah

robbie kerr <robbiekerr@...> wrote:
           Hello ebveryone

Can anyone help me please?

I bought a dobermann puppy 1 half years ago.

He is a dog.

when I got him from the breeder he was in a shed with many other pups, and
upon returning home he has severe darohea all over my house for a few days
until I took him to the vet and they treated him.

Unfortunately now he is still not healthy and has lumps all over his skin
and beneath his chin on the mizzle area there are large spots which burst
and bleed when I play with him.

Sometimes when someone comes to the door he does not bark but whines and
then wets all over my hall.

Why does he behave like this and is it normal? I read that lomps on the
skin can sometomes be called dog acne? Is this likely to bleed?

He also never barks or growls and is often not very aware of his
surroundings. He sometomes vomits in the morning too and his coat has very
severe dandruff. It's upsetting to see my dog like this but the vet does
not seem too worried about him. Can you please give me some advice about my
dog and what i can do to help him.

I have tried many products to help him with his coat and skin but atraight
after bathing him the dandruff returns. He looks unwell too as his spine is
curved not straight like other dobermann dogs i have seen. His tail is
sloaped down. He has a reasonable temperment but is for some reason
sometimes not interestred in his surroundings and whines a lot.

Please Help

Thank you for reading my message.

Rob

>From: LuSwinton@...
>Reply-To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>Subject: [Doberman Europe Club] FDA warns Iams Co. about chemical in food
>for overweight pets
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:05:50 EDT
>
>For your information/cross posting:
>
>
>
>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/agriculture/story.html?id=dfddca69-f9bc-4ffe-\
a539-8e8ade895a24&k=97619
>
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Hello ebveryone

Can anyone help me please?

I bought a dobermann puppy 1 half years ago.

He is a dog.

when I got him from the breeder he was in a shed with many other pups, and
upon returning home he has severe darohea all over my house for a few days
until I took him to the vet and they treated him.

Unfortunately now he is still not healthy and has lumps all over his skin
and beneath his chin on the mizzle area there are large spots which burst
and bleed when I play with him.

Sometimes when someone comes to the door he does not bark but whines and
then wets all over my hall.

Why does he behave like this and is it normal?  I read that lomps on the
skin can sometomes be called dog acne?   Is this likely to bleed?

He also never barks or growls and is often not very aware of his
surroundings.  He sometomes vomits in the morning too and his coat has very
severe dandruff.  It's upsetting to see my dog like this but the vet does
not seem too worried about him.  Can you please give me some advice about my
dog and what i can do to help him.

I have tried many products to help him with his coat and skin but atraight
after bathing him the dandruff returns.  He looks unwell too as his spine is
curved not straight like other dobermann dogs i have seen.  His tail is
sloaped down.  He has a reasonable temperment but is for some reason
sometimes not interestred in his surroundings and whines a lot.

Please Help

Thank you for reading my message.


Rob


>From: LuSwinton@...
>Reply-To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>To: dobermaneuropeclub@...
>Subject: [Doberman Europe Club] FDA warns Iams Co. about chemical in food
>for overweight pets
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:05:50 EDT
>
>For your information/cross posting:
>
>
>
>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/agriculture/story.html?id=dfddca69-f9bc-4ffe-\
a539-8e8ade895a24&k=97619
>
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More information on Pet Food recalls.  Please cross post.  This information
from my vet!

http://www.vin.com/WebLink.plx?URL=http://www.fda.gov/opacom/7alerts.html

http://www.vin.com/promo/News/Recall/Hills_Letter_Regarding_Reimbursement.pdf


http://www.menufoods.com/recall/PRESS%20RELEASE%2004052007%20CAN.htm

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/4691151.html

http://cahfs.ucdavis.edu/

http://cahfs.ucdavis.edu/pet_food.htm

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For your information and cross posting.


http://dogblog.dogster.com/2007/04/03/story-behind-pet-food-recall-is-it-bigger-\
than-weve-been-told/

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For your information/cross posting.  Thanks to my vet for this link!

http://www.delmonte.com/petfoodrecall.html

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http://www.canada.com/topics/news/agriculture/story.html?id=dfddca69-f9bc-4ffe-a\
539-8e8ade895a24&k=97619

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