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Re: [easton_bristol] Attack on the cycle path

Yeah, Can't argue with any of that. Grat. Rd. Neighbourhood watch has
spent over ten years trying to get vegatation that provides cover for
criminals controlled for over a decade. But between BCC (Do nothing,
don't answer letters, hope it'll go away ) and animal lovers like Fred
absolutely nothing has happened to improve cycletrack safety.

Even though, last century, BC actually agreed that crime prevention was
more important than wildlife. But, obviously, not important enough to do
anything. I guess Helen Holland and her friends don't commute this route...

There were several attacks on local people in the last week, all without
theft, by a gang of yout on bicycles. Hitting people for fun. hmmm,
Could catch on big time.

Royce



Ian Popperwell wrote:
> Fred, I cannot but challenge this. I really don't give a shit about
> the wildlife on the cycle track if their habitat is increasing the
> hiding places for hobbyist muggers and attackers. Whilst I appreciate
> the trees and shrubs along the sides of the track, I think there's
> probably evidence that their growth over the years has enabled far
> more attacks on people. The cycle track (as I've well rehearsed here
> in the past) has not felt nor been a safe place for me over the last
> few years.
> Ian.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* fred miller <mailto:fredmillerworm@...>
> *To:* easton_bristol@...
> <mailto:easton_bristol@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:10 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [easton_bristol] Attack on the cycle path
>
> I think that is good as long as it doesn't remove wildlife
> habitat, as the path is a wildlife corridoor.
>
> On another note:
> The massive through flow of cyclists along the path, means a cycle
> repair shop would do very well as part of the choc factory
> development. There is no cycle shop around here. (st paul's is
> nearest?). Also a sandwich bar, for commuters to buy their lunch,
> and cafe for all the leisure cyclists such as familiies on summer
> weekends. This is a massive economic/leisure/sustainability
> opportunity, and would boost cycling.
> I assume you have thought of this already !
> Fred
>
> */Jenny Gee <jgee@...>/* wrote:
>
> Just to be clear – I’m working with Squarepeg on the Chocolate
> Factory, so there is vested interest here.
> Squarepeg is planning to include cycle housing on the path
> along the Chocolate Factory boundary. This could be an
> important addition to security in the area as the plan is that
> houses front on to the path.
> Do you think this could help? Let me know through this site OR
> visit our web site and make your comments please.
> Many thnaks
> Jenny Gee
>
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> *From:* easton_bristol@...
> [mailto:easton_bristol@...] *On Behalf Of *Royce
> Creasey
> *Sent:* 01 June 2008 12:44
> *To:* easton_bristol@...
> *Subject:* Re: [easton_bristol] Attack on the cycle path
> Yeah, Helicopter. Ideal for rummaging through bushes on the
> cycletrack,
> everyone knows that. I always used to go out after rats with a
> V-bomber
> myself.
>
> C'mon Plods, enough prancing about in all the kit at 14.00hrs
> in the
> afternoon doing PR. Time for some actual CP. Wouldn't want the
> locals
> doing for you innit?
>
> The BS5 crew assaulted an adult in Grat. Road last Friday
> actually.
>
> Royce. A paying customer.
>
> Sally wrote:
> > Just want to warn everyone and get the word out to the local
> community: My
> > sister and her boyfriend were attacked by a gang of 6-8
> youths with baseball
> > bats at 9.30-10.00pm last night on the cycle path between the
> Easton
> > Community Centre and Devon Road. He was beaten quite badly,
> they hit him on
> > the back of the head causing a serious head injury, and he
> lost a lot of
> > blood, split gums and large welts over his back arms and
> legs, they beat her
> > too, but nothing broken or bleeding. They stole their bikes,
> but this
> > didn't seem to be the point of the attack as the gang seemed
> more intent on
> > beating them up than stealing anything - they both arrived at
> my house with
> > their phones, cash, handbag, etc.
> >
> > We spent the night at BRI A&E with the police who informed us
> that there are
> > currently two gangs of youth attacking people (mainly other
> kids) in the
> > area (mainly around the cycle path, hiding in the bushes in
> dark places and
> > jumping out on people) and that things seem to be escalating
> as this is the
> > first time they have attacked grown ups! The policeman said
> that one gang
> > is made up of Jamaican youths 14-16 years old, wearing
> hoodies and bandanas
> > over their faces. The other gang is about the same age but
> made up mainly
> > of Somali youths.
> >
> > Please can you warn your neighbours and friends to be
> careful, this could
> > quite easily have ended up in real tragedy. Apparently there
> is a lad still
> > in intensive care at the BRI at the moment who was beaten up
> by a gang with
> > baseball bats last weekend!! The police also informed us that
> they had
> > several calls about this gang last night and that they had
> the helicopter
> > out looking for them!
> >
> > Grim huh?
> > Sally
> >
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Fred, I cannot but challenge this. I really don't give a shit about the wildlife on the cycle track if their habitat is increasing the hiding places for...
Ian Popperwell
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Jun 3, 2008
6:47 pm

Yeah, Can't argue with any of that. Grat. Rd. Neighbourhood watch has spent over ten years trying to get vegatation that provides cover for criminals...
Royce Creasey
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Jun 4, 2008
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Ian - that does put it in perspective, hopefully there is a way to satisfy both requirements - we're in the process of developing the cycle housing which has...
Jenny Gee
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Jun 4, 2008
12:28 pm

Turns out that the BBC is due to run a feature on the attacks tomorrow, with interviews with victims, police and Abdul Malik. This is confirmed. Apart from...
Sarah
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Jun 4, 2008
1:44 pm

As our pedestrians routes in and out of Easton come under attack from lost yout, so do our main traffic routes become increasingly blighted by the lost traffic...
Royce Creasey
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Jun 4, 2008
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I concur with the rage at these attacks. Each summer we are confronted with this, as the warm weather brings out these people. It is amazing how only a few...
fred miller
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Jun 5, 2008
9:18 am

On the subject of vegetation - I don't see that it would make people safer. There are going to be plenty of other places where this will happen; one of the...
Sarah
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Jun 5, 2008
10:50 am

I agree, in order to eradicate any hidey holes in the greenery along the cycle path you would have to chop down a huge amount of greenery and wildlife habitat....
flowerdaliah
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Jun 5, 2008
12:32 pm

Clearly, the education and opportunities available to local yout are somewhat lacking. This does not excuse the gang behaviour in question. They probably...
Royce Creasey
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Jun 5, 2008
2:48 pm

Hello After the recent spate of attacks in Easton and along the cycle path I have set up a petition on the Bristol City Council's website to demand better ...
Sally
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Jun 4, 2008
2:15 pm

I'm not sure that the answer is straightforward even if we all agree there is a problem? Is lighting really the best use of resources to prevent to recurrence ...
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Jun 4, 2008
6:31 pm

Sally + everyone, Just to let you know, in case it helps with the cycle path initiatives, tomorrow (today) morning there's this: Thurs 5 June 10.30 - 1.30pm...
Ale Fernandez
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Jun 5, 2008
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One problem with the question asked below is that, as a result of addressing the lighting/crime connection on NR a few years ago, it became clear that;- a....
Royce Creasey
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Jun 5, 2008
7:00 am

That's a good point, I suspect that better and more lighting increases people's sense of safety - it feels like a safer place to go - rather than it...
Ian Popperwell
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Jun 5, 2008
7:16 am

These terrible events don't have to lead to any conflict between wildlife and people. Some species like elderflower can be cut back to make standard trees...
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Jun 6, 2008
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I did say "We need to tackle the issue that kids with ... BUT I don't agree that the answer is to leave it to the police and legal system. I have yet to see...
Sarah
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Jun 6, 2008
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These kids have parents too, its not all down to the system, families need to be encouraged to take responsibility for their own kids. Has anyone heard of SEAL...
Jenny Gee
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Jun 9, 2008
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Hi all Can I say that I hear this all before:- 1 we must help the kids, yes the kids coming up, not the kids doing this, we have to show that we the people...
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Jun 6, 2008
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Some local residents are walking to the pub already tonight (Saturday 7th June) from the Greenbank access point at 8:30pm. I think officially the first group...
Kai Paulden
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I thought it might be interesting to bring this to local attention... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7441927.stm Am I alone in finding the word...
Royce Creasey
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... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7441927.stm ... The quality or perhaps my estimation of Auntie's journalism has declined over recent years. The...
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... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7441927.stm ... The Evening Pest is carrying the same story (see http://tinyurl.com/3hkvfe) with almost...
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