Hi Davy.
Thanks for cicking off some chat here!
I've not read the book myself, though one of our members had a launch of the book as his shop in London, and another of our members interviewed Sheila on his LGBT radio program in Manchester.
I'm sure many ECC members will be reading it.
My personal take on the relationship between Edward Carpenter himself & ECC the gay man's community, will be just that, my personal take, & I suspect each & every ECC member would have differing angles & opinions.
ECC has a set of Principles & Intentions (P's & I's) rather than a constitution, and I think I'd be correct in saying that in creating and maintaining those P's & I's, the ECC membership has always tried to keep in mind those values and beliefs held most strongly by Edward Carpenter.
We are a geographically scattered group of gay men who come together to hold events which engender community building for all gay men in all walks of life. The decisions our community makes about how it does things are made wherever possible by consensus, and any ECC member is welcome to be part of that decision making process.
If you look at our P's & I's the connections with Edward Carpenter and his philosophy should be quite clear.
Here are the P's & I's currently available on the ECC web site. I should add that ECC is currently making slight amendments to these, but the overall concept is unchanged.
The Edward Carpenter Community (ECC) exists to provide opportunities to express our identity as gay men.
We are committed:
- To personal growth.
- To achieve greater trust and intimacy among ourselves and all gay men.
- To create and maintain a supportive network of gay men.
- To live in a way that is not exploitative of our fellow creatures, our environment or its resources.
- To strengthen our membership by welcoming more men from groups which have traditionally been oppressed in our society; to continue to encourage and support disabled, black, older and younger men to become involved in our events; to do what we can to reduce the impact of sexism and other forms of oppression.
- To overcome the effects of our own oppression as gay men.
- To share skills and work co-operatively rather than competitively
- To look at non-exploitative social and economic structures as alternatives to the current economic and social system.
- To act as a resource for each other, interested gay people and individuals and groups who share our concerns and objectives
We intend:
- To encourage an atmosphere of trust, support and sharing in each other's lives.
- To encourage creativity (music, dance, drama, art, fun etc) in our lives.
- To make personal commitment to the community.
- To promote activity concerned with therapy and health issues which concern gay men and to acknowledge the major role of self-healing (emotional and physical) in our lives; to encourage a healthy lifestyle and vegetarian/vegan diet.
- To acquire places for housing gay men; to make provision for communal living places large enough to provide everyone with privacy and individual space.
- In communal living spaces there shall be regular meetings, a disputes procedure, with commitment to sorting out personal problems as they arise, a commitment to welcome visitors and to provide a relaxed atmosphere for them.
- To encourage the setting up of a rural centre and living space. To introduce people to new ideas and ways of living.
I hope this goes some way to answering your question Davy.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Subject: [ecc-public-discuss] Re: ECC events.Hello all
Has anybody read Sheila Rowbotham's recently published biography of
Edward Carpenter ?
And how would ECC generally relate to Carpenters socialist politics ?
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