Some of you might be interested in this event:
Albion Faeries present:
Yuletide at Featherstone Castle,
a UK EuroFaerie gathering.
Join us 20 - 28 December 2007 for:
- log fires,
- faerie feasts,
- heart circles for the body and soul,
- music,
- drumming,
- dance,
- solstice celebration.
Faerie is a self-chosen identity - this gathering is for all adult faeries
(16+), irrespective of gender and sexuality.
Probably most of the faeries at this event will be gay men, but there will
probably be some women as well.
For details see:
uk.geocities.com/albionfaeries/
Frank Sierowski / Frank of Albion
cliff, goodluck - unfortunately, as the grp desc.
sounds interesting, in jan. I moved away from
brighton.
rory
--- Cliff James <lingodbhava@...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone. Just to let you know that I've started
> a new group for
> gay people in the Brighton area. It's called
> Brighton Gay Humanists
>
(www.uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Brighton-Gay-Humanists)
> and will be a
> campaigning and discussion group for atheists and
> others who feel that
> religious groups have too much say in modern
> society. It will also be
> a social group organising events and gatherings for
> like-minded gay
> people. If you are interested, please join!
> Many thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
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Hi Everyone. Just to let you know that I've started a new group for
gay people in the Brighton area. It's called Brighton Gay Humanists
(www.uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Brighton-Gay-Humanists) and will be a
campaigning and discussion group for atheists and others who feel that
religious groups have too much say in modern society. It will also be
a social group organising events and gatherings for like-minded gay
people. If you are interested, please join!
Many thanks,
Cliff
I have counted the 2 penis enlargement messages to be spam.
I have removed from the group the members that sent them, deleted the messages from the web view of the group, and set new memberships as requiring approval.
I have decided not to count the boxer shorts message as spam at the moment.
Hi All
Sorry about the recent spam.
I have counted the 2 penis enlargement messages to be spam.
I have removed from the group the members that sent them, deleted the
messages from the web view of the group, and set new memberships as
requiring approval.
I have decided not to count the boxer shorts message as spam at the
moment.
Frank - group owner
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OUR 2006 PROGRAMME
Creative Arts Weekend, Hebden Bridge, April 13–16
Edward Carpenter Weekend, Unstone Grange (Derbyshire) May 19–22
Gay Men's Week, `Authenticity as Gay Men' Laurieston Hall, (SW
Scotland) June 10-17
Gay Men's Week, High Close (Near Grasmere, Lake District) July 3-10
Gay Men's Weeks, Laurieston Hall, August 16-23
Experimental Gay Men's Week `Healing in Community' Laurieston Hall
September 9-16
New Year Gay Men's Week, Wasdale (Lake District) 28 December-4
January
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST
For most events we operate a sliding scale of charges related to
your income. Bursaries are available for those on very low income.
In 2005 for the first time we ran one event asking participants to
pay what they could afford bearing in mind the break even cost and
we are repeating this in 2006. No one should be deterred from coming
to an event because of the cost.
HOW TO JOIN US
Any gay man who agrees with our principles and intentions is welcome
to join. You will find these with further details of our 2006
programme and a booking form, at our website
www.edwardcarpentercommunity.org.uk Alternatively telephone 0870
321 5121, email info@... or write to The
Edward Carpenter Community, BM ECC London WC1N 3XX for our 2006
events booklet and more details about us.
`….and perhaps this after all is a general rule: namely that people
should endeavour (more than they do) to express or liberate their
own real deep-rooted needs and feelings. Then in doing so they will
probably liberate and aid the expression of the lives of thousands
of others…'
Edward Carpenter in reply to a greeting received on his 70th
birthday in 1914
and if Faeries interest you as well as Edward
Carpenter Community, a couple of us are just back from
helping to open the first Ferie Sanctuary in Europe-
"Folleterre"- this weekend (in the foothils of the
Jura Mountains in eastern France.
namaste, Vyvyan
--- Lewis Wheeler <lewis.photographer@...>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> By happy accident I found Keri Picket's book
> 'Faeries' today and had one of those - 'ah so that's
> what the name of it is' - moments.
>
> I'm really looking forward to participating in an
> 'event' in the near future but I found the website a
> bit confusing (and in slight need of updating ;o)
>
> Could someone please tell me when the next event is
> - particularly anything in Scotland as I am based in
> Glasgow.
>
> Lewis xxxx
>
>
>
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Each October/November, we discuss and agree the evenst we will run in the following year. Brief information should be up on the web site shortly after the meeting, with full descriptions of events either at the end of 2006 or early in the new year.
The next scheduled event is the New Year event at Wasdale, which is listed on the web site.
Chris.
-----Original Message----- From: ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of Lewis Wheeler Sent: 18 September 2005 21:19 To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: [ecc-public-discuss] Hi everyone - another newbie
Hi,
By happy accident I found Keri Picket's book 'Faeries' today and had one of those - 'ah so that's what the name of it is' - moments.
I'm really looking forward to participating in an 'event' in the near future but I found the website a bit confusing (and in slight need of updating ;o)
Could someone please tell me when the next event is - particularly anything in Scotland as I am based in Glasgow.
I think that the website is correct insofar as the next week-long event is over the New Year at Wasdale in the Lake District - hopefully not too far from Glasgow. There should be more details about this soon.
Most events happen over the summer and details for those come out usually in January or February. Info might be available earlier. And there are quite often events at other times of year. Most of the longer events are held in the Lake District or SW Scotland.
For email announcements when info is ready, join ecc-public-announce on Yahoo Groups.
Subject: [ecc-public-discuss] Hi everyone - another newbie
Hi,
By happy accident I found Keri Picket's book 'Faeries' today and had one of those - 'ah so that's what the name of it is' - moments.
I'm really looking forward to participating in an 'event' in the near future but I found the website a bit confusing (and in slight need of updating ;o)
Could someone please tell me when the next event is - particularly anything in Scotland as I am based in Glasgow.
Lewis xxxx
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By happy accident I found Keri Picket's book 'Faeries' today and had one of those - 'ah so that's what the name of it is' - moments.
I'm really looking forward to participating in an 'event' in the near future but I found the website a bit confusing (and in slight need of updating ;o)
Could someone please tell me when the next event is - particularly anything in Scotland as I am based in Glasgow.
Hi All
Just posted this on the ECC spirituality week group and thought you
might like it too
Love to all
Mike
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is
that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our
darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, `who am I to be
brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous?` Actually, who are not
to be? You are a child of the Universe. Your playing small does not
serve the world. There is nothing so enlightening about shrinking so
that other people won`t feel insecure around you. We are born to
make manifest the glory of god which is within us. It is not in just
some of us, it is in all of us. And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we
are liberated from our own fears, our presence automatically
liberates others." - Marianne Williamson
-hi there russell
i think if your aim is "shagging in the country" then you realy
will be missing the point of an e.c.c. event! shagging in the
country can be arranged through many web sites. while its true that
intimacy can be found and on ocasion alot more, too book an event
with the gaol being a shag in the woods would be wrong in
my "personnal" veiw.
read "Principles and Intentions" on the main e.c.c. page for a more
detailed veiw of what "may" happen.
every e.c.c. event ive been on has been a spiritual experience of
one kind or another.
we all bring an ingredient throw it in the pot and see what cooks
up.
and as for partners? bring, don,t bring its your path your following
isint it?
stay well
wayne woodchild
oxox
Hi Russell
Some people go with partners, but probably not the majority.
Some people will know quite a lot of other people on the event, and there
are usually/(always?) some first-timers.
People/we get up to all sorts of things - the "News and Views" section of
the website
http://www.edwardcarpentercommunity.org.uk
gives some more details if you have not read it already.
And there are loads more things that happen than have yet been described
there.
And on any given week I've been on there are probably lots of things that
happen that I don't know about (especially on the weeks wit the larger
numbers of people), and lots that I do.
I feel most of the weeks have some sort of spiritual aspect, in a broad
sense.
There are usually a lot of opportunities to be with people in a variety of
ways.
Myself, I've been back lots of times.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Barr
To: ecc-public-discuss@...
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: [ecc-public-discuss] Scottish
Hi Chris, thanks for the quick response. So does everyone go with
partners? Is it shagging in the country or is it more spiritual? What kind
of things did you get up to? Would you recomend it and have you been back?
You can reach me at my home email or add me to msn with the email address
Russell4u@...
cheers Russ
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Hi Chris, thanks for the quick response. So does everyone go with partners? Is it shagging in the country or is it more spiritual? What kind of things did you get up to? Would you recomend it and have you been back? You can reach me at my home email or add me to msn with the email address Russell4u@...
cheers Russ
----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRIS JEFFRIES" To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: RE: [ecc-public-discuss] Scottish Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:33:48 +0100
Not Scottish, but have been to events at Laurieston Hall (nr Castle Douglas) and happy to chat about them.
-----Original Message----- From: ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of ratzo4u Sent: 15 August 2005 12:16 To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: [ecc-public-discuss] Scottish
Hi guys, new member here and would really like to hear from any Scottish members who have been away on one of the weeks away. just to get the feel of what goes on etc. all the best russ
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Not Scottish, but have been to events at Laurieston Hall (nr Castle Douglas) and happy to chat about them.
-----Original Message----- From: ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of ratzo4u Sent: 15 August 2005 12:16 To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: [ecc-public-discuss] Scottish
Hi guys, new member here and would really like to hear from any Scottish members who have been away on one of the weeks away. just to get the feel of what goes on etc. all the best russ
Hi guys, new member here and would really like to hear from any
Scottish members who have been away on one of the weeks away. just to
get the feel of what goes on etc.
all the best russ
Hi All
If you want to temporarily stop receiving emails from this group,
remember that you do not need to leave the group altogether - (and
then
have to go through the joining process again when you want to start
receiving them again - which at the moment
means being Approved):
Sign in to the Group on the Web at
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/ecc-public-discuss/
Select Edit Membership
Under Message Delivery, select No Email
You can go back and turn email back on for yourself later on.
Frank (Group Owner)
I very much recommend Rictor Norton’s
website (and books) for anyone interested in gay history. (I don’t have
any shares in his publisher or anything.) It’s at http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/.
London Metropolitan Archives has held a
gay history conference the last two autumns (which Rictor has attended.)
hi steven
glad you started the ball rolling with an introduction
makes interesting reading mate
you might like to look at another e.c.c. members web site based on
similar grounds to your reasearch
www.queerlovecall.net
take care fella
wayne woodchild
More than fare comment john!
one, the spams were the first signs of life on here for i don,t know
how long! but as i wasen,t intrested in meeting any busty singles
they were of little use to me!!
and yes it realy would be great to see some life on this group
page, maybe thats whats happening right now!
who,s going on what e.c.c. do,s this year?
im gona be on the wounded healer gig in september! and am even being
able to fasilitate a workshop!! my first on an e.c.c. event!
carnt wait.
You busy down there john? still hopeing to get of my arse and come
down to one of yours.
stay cool guyz and stay posting lets get something going in here.
wayne woodchild
my name is steven since ive joined this group i didnt realise how many people were subscribed
so an introduction
i live in oxford and am very involved in queer myth im currently putting together an evening of queer occurrence in myth and history - the fact that weve always been around and also exploring different cultures' sacred framings of our experience
i am also developing working with nature and ceremony and am a nascent shaman - a word so misused as to be almost meaningless but the best one i have right now for a role our society no longer trains us in perhaps mediator with the mystery would be better i explore this particularly utilising the body and voice and am also exploringsacred sexuality - i hope to attend one of your workshops soon, john
if anyone is interested in these topics please contact me as i am pretty much researching with only the internet so far and it would be good to chat with other people interestedin queer spirit i also hope to attend an ecc event soon
so for now good by
with love
steven
johnbellamy <michaelbellamy@...> wrote:
sam_uk203
Please Mr. Moderator, do something to stop these constant daily e mails from the member above.
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
Why are we suddenly getting these annoying e mails, and then an annoying spam that has nothing to do with ECC or anyone associated with it ? I don't mind members writing or promoting things, for the ECC or not, but not some anonymous business promoting some sex thing... Don't we all get enough spam sex things promoting twinks / bears / lesbians / big boobs etc.
Are there no controls by the mediator of this group ?
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall
Tel: 01202-399227
Why not take a look at our highly acclaimed web magazine at www.hamiltonhall.info or rent the entire venue for your own events @ www.venuerental.net
e mail info-hamiltonhall@...
----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Edwards To: ecc-public-discuss@... Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [ecc-public-discuss] Re:
Pscyhiatry
Hi Ulrika, re,
--- In ecc-public-discuss@..., "Ulrika Carlson" <ulrika888@y...> wrote: > Kindly re
johnbellamy wrote:
> Glad to say, it has been sorted and I - like the other 45 people who
> have obviously not shown any interest in this 'public discussion ' e
> mail group, will take my name off it. What's the point of this
> 'public' group anyway ?
>
The main ECC Smartgroups email group is restricted to ECC members only
(i.e. those who have attended an ECC event). The idea of a *public* ECC
discussion group is a good one in principle - so that, for example,
non-members can ask questions about or discuss ECC.
I would expect that discussions between, or directed to, ECC members
woud be on the main ECC email group and this group would be mainly used
as a means of responding to non-members.
Very few people have in fact made use of this group but, looking
through my archive of messages sent here, I can see that several people
have made contact in this way and may well have joined ECC as a result.
That in itself seems enough justification for this group.
As regards the spam problem on this group. I try not to comment on spam,
especially on the affected email group as it then increases the spam
related traffic. I am perhaps 'battle-hardened' to spam as I regularly
have to deal with 50-100 spams per day on my various email accounts at
work and home. If I read all of them I might eventually believe that I
was an obese, impotent, pornography addict (which is what most of them
seem to assume),
Philip
Thankyou for that chris jeffries. Considering I have never ever had a single e mail from this 'public discuss' group, and considering I have also never signed onto it, I think it's fair to say it has not been, and nor is it now, popular with absolutely anyone.
Regardless of what it is called.
Nuisance e mails by the score are still a nuisance and if moderated, needs attention.
Glad to say, it has been sorted and I - like the other 45 people who have obviously not shown any interest in this 'public discussion ' e mail group, will take my name off it. What's the point of this 'public' group anyway ?
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
Subject: RE: [ecc-public-discuss] Dealing with spam
Hmm - the name of the group says it all ecc-public-discuss. It is ecc moderated, it is for public discussion.
-----Original Message----- From:ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of johnbellamy Sent: 09 August 2005 10:26 To:ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: Re: [ecc-public-discuss] Dealing with spam
Thankyou for sorting out the dreaded spam mailings we were receiving. I wasn't aware that membership of this e mail group was open to everyone who wanted to join without moderator intervention or being a member of the ECC itself. That's what I had always been told and was for our protection against such things. Do we want just anyone reading our intimate and 'in house' e mails sent through this group or is it to be kept private and 'in house' just for the membership of ECC ?
I'm so glad not to be receiving thoe dreaded e mails any more.
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
I think it was clear from the group description that the multiple advertising being sent was not within what the group was intended for and I have removed the relevant member.
In order to make it easier for people to join the group membership was previously set to Open (anyone can join); I have changed it so that membership now requires approval.
Hmm - the name of the group says it all ecc-public-discuss. It is ecc moderated, it is for public discussion.
-----Original Message----- From: ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of johnbellamy Sent: 09 August 2005 10:26 To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: Re: [ecc-public-discuss] Dealing with spam
Thankyou for sorting out the dreaded spam mailings we were receiving. I wasn't aware that membership of this e mail group was open to everyone who wanted to join without moderator intervention or being a member of the ECC itself. That's what I had always been told and was for our protection against such things. Do we want just anyone reading our intimate and 'in house' e mails sent through this group or is it to be kept private and 'in house' just for the membership of ECC ?
I'm so glad not to be receiving thoe dreaded e mails any more.
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
I think it was clear from the group description that the multiple advertising being sent was not within what the group was intended for and I have removed the relevant member.
In order to make it easier for people to join the group membership was previously set to Open (anyone can join); I have changed it so that membership now requires approval.
Thanks for that. I don't actually know how I got on this e mail list as this was the first l;oad of e mails I have received from it...
I also didn't know there was a different list although was on it for a while when there were a few e mails about Hamilton Hall and I was astounded and absolutely gobsmacked at the support and praise offered for myself, Hamilton Hall and what I am doing here, by the membership. It brought a tear to my eye...
Thanks for enlightening me.
If you'd like a weekend with a friend for B&B as my guest when we are not quite so busy, it would be my pleasure...
Have you ever been to Bournemouth ?
In Peace
John
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
Subject: RE: [ecc-public-discuss] Dealing with spam
Hi John...
I think maybe you are not aware of the nature of this group?
It is aptly named "ECC-public-discuss"
With an emphasis on the 'public'
This is the group we invite anyone - the general public - to join to find out about ECC, what it is, how it works.
And that's one of the reasons it was left open for anyone to join.
We also made sure a few ECC members were also subscribed to help with any questions asked and chat to the 'public' who decided to join.
I'm amazed we haven't had loads of spamming in the past for that very reason.
So I'm not too sure if we shouldn't just keep a close eye on spammers & then like, and leave it open to the public.
Our ECC members group has around 300 members John, and no spammers. That is for people who have attended ECC events and so are aware of ECC and how it works. That is where - in your words - our intimate and 'in house' e mails - are sent, not here.
Hope this helps clear it up for you.
Dave.
-----Original Message----- From: ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of johnbellamy Sent: 09 August 2005 10:26 To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: Re: [ecc-public-discuss] Dealing with spam
Thankyou for sorting out the dreaded spam mailings we were receiving. I wasn't aware that membership of this e mail group was open to everyone who wanted to join without moderator intervention or being a member of the ECC itself. That's what I had always been told and was for our protection against such things. Do we want just anyone reading our intimate and 'in house' e mails sent through this group or is it to be kept private and 'in house' just for the membership of ECC ?
I'm so glad not to be receiving thoe dreaded e mails any more.
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
I think it was clear from the group description that the multiple advertising being sent was not within what the group was intended for and I have removed the relevant member.
In order to make it easier for people to join the group membership was previously set to Open (anyone can join); I have changed it so that membership now requires approval.
I think maybe you are not aware of the nature of this group?
It is aptly named "ECC-public-discuss"
With an emphasis on the 'public'
This is the group we invite anyone - the general public - to join to find out about ECC, what it is, how it works.
And that's one of the reasons it was left open for anyone to join.
We also made sure a few ECC members were also subscribed to help with any questions asked and chat to the 'public' who decided to join.
I'm amazed we haven't had loads of spamming in the past for that very reason.
So I'm not too sure if we shouldn't just keep a close eye on spammers & then like, and leave it open to the public.
Our ECC members group has around 300 members John, and no spammers. That is for people who have attended ECC events and so are aware of ECC and how it works. That is where - in your words - our intimate and 'in house' e mails - are sent, not here.
Hope this helps clear it up for you.
Dave.
-----Original Message----- From: ecc-public-discuss@... [mailto:ecc-public-discuss@...]On Behalf Of johnbellamy Sent: 09 August 2005 10:26 To: ecc-public-discuss@... Subject: Re: [ecc-public-discuss] Dealing with spam
Thankyou for sorting out the dreaded spam mailings we were receiving. I wasn't aware that membership of this e mail group was open to everyone who wanted to join without moderator intervention or being a member of the ECC itself. That's what I had always been told and was for our protection against such things. Do we want just anyone reading our intimate and 'in house' e mails sent through this group or is it to be kept private and 'in house' just for the membership of ECC ?
I'm so glad not to be receiving thoe dreaded e mails any more.
John Bellamy Hamilton Hall 1 Carysfort Road Bournemouth Dorset BH1 4EJ
I think it was clear from the group description that the multiple advertising being sent was not within what the group was intended for and I have removed the relevant member.
In order to make it easier for people to join the group membership was previously set to Open (anyone can join); I have changed it so that membership now requires approval.
You're right of course John. Unfortunately so many people are unwilling
for whatever reason to put their ideas or points of view into email
form. I really don't know what will motivate someone into action. If
people are happy ot read others emails and simply lurk, then there isn't
a lot anyone can do about it. Unless the subject of an email is
stimulating or contoversial or raises issues that affect us all then
it's going to be an uphill struggle to get others involved.
I would like to see others have their say. What about some
introductions? We are not a massive group so it shouldn't be too
daunting. You can say as much or as little about yourself as you want.
What do others think? It would be nice to think that other people here
do actually have an opinion and feel safe enough in this environment to
be able to express themselves freely.
Big hugs to all
Mel, Uk
JOHN wrote:
> After writing an e mail concerning the dreaded spam that was recently
> sent through to this e mail group and how no-one else complained
> except me, I have to wonder how many people actually receive e mails
> from this group and how many do not. With just 45 members and only
> one comment - me - either no-one else is bothered or no-one receives
> the e mails.
> I thought this was an open forum for discussion - so where is the
> discussion, where are the interested people, where is the passion for
> what the ECC does and where are those who want to help make this forum
> succeed.
> This has taught me a lesson and I am sure the ECC as well. What WILL
> motivate people into action ?
>
> John
> Hamilton Hall
>
>
>
>
>
>
> See also our web site
> http://www.edwardcarpentercommunity.org.uk
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