forensic_occupational_therapy : Message: RE: [forensic_occupational

I agree with all that has been said so far, however, I need to inject another slightly pessimistic view on working with other disciplnes. I have set up a working group in the unit where I work to monitor and evaluate the groups that are running in the unit. Part of the remit was to promote interdisciplinary working and co-facilitation of groups. This was met by great enthusiasm by all invovled until it came to running the groups. Due to staff shortages across the board there is never enough nursing staff to allow the group faclitator to join the group which means that the planning implementation and recording of the group is then put on the shoulders of the solitary OT. I don't know about anyone else but this has consistnetly been my experience.

Sorry to put such a downer on what should be an interesting and beneficial way of working, but that's how it is here.

-----Original Message-----
From: mark spybey [mailto:mspybey@...]
Sent: 09 February 2004 11:57
To: forensic_occupational_therapy@...
Subject: Re: [forensic_occupational_therapy] Staffing levels in groups

I echo Kath's views. We've all (probably) done groups by ourselves but I don't think it is particularly good or safe practice. In our service we are addressing this so that other professional groups start to take more of an active interest in running groups. This entails us setting standards within the service.

What interested me about Birgit's message is the subtext, if you like, of being too busy..I am sure we are all at times guilty of this but when I started here in this post, I found that the OT staff (and Tech Instructors) were ridiculously overworked, partly because they had single handedly filled in service wide gaps. I wonder if we sometimes try to do too much? That is we put ourselves under too much pressure to provide and not try to see the wider picture?

Just a thought. This group has been very quiet recently...

Best,

Mark Spybey.

>From: "Kath Mason"
>Reply-To: forensic_occupational_therapy@...
>To:
>Subject: Re: [forensic_occupational_therapy] Staffing levels in groups
>Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 07:29:05 +0000
>
>Hi Birgit
>I used to run groups with settled pts on the ward however I wouldnt
>recommend it as the rest of the team come to expect it and its not
>really safe.
>Need to impress the need upon the service and team and get other
>professionals involved and use OTA's.
>I always like the idea of nursing staff allocated to assist with
>activities each shift.
>Hope it goes well.
>kath
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