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RE: [Half inch live steam forum] Helen Longish

Hi John,

It sounds like a very intriguing material! I wonder how suitable it would be
for piston rings, and rams for small steam pumps?

I’ll have to check to see if it is available commercially here in the U.S.

Thank you for the very clear explanation!

Keith



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Hi Keith,

The material I've used is a bearing grade thermoplastic containing 10%
Carbon Fibre, PTFE, and Graphite, which goes under various names such
as Ketron HPV and PEEK bearing grade. It's a lot harder than ordinary
PTFE and also has a lower expansion rate, although still much higher
than bronze or stainless steel. It will withstand a continuous working
temperature of 250°C, has a very low coefficient of friction and good
machinability.

I am not sure I would go down this route again as the fitting of the
valves is very fiddly and time consuming. I think it is probably much
easier to get a good fitting valve made from stainless or bronze.
By the way PEEK stands for PolyEtherEtherKetone.

John



Thu May 3, 2007 12:30 pm

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Have started work on my version of Helen Long and will post photos etc as work progresses. I've used Black Five wheel castings for the driving/coupled wheels ...
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... John, how do you "locate" needle roller bearing on the axle, to prevent sideways movement of the axle? the only way to it reliably it seems is to use...
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Hi Chris, The bearings are pressed into normal type flanged axle boxes, the bearing just replaces the plain reamed hole. Axial movement is controlled by the...
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Dec 8, 2005
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... against the flange of the axle box, as in the plain type. I considered doing the same, but felt that the advantages of needle roller bearing would be...
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Hi Chris, I think any side friction will only be a problem when going around tight curves but we'll see. It certainly won't be any worse than with plain axle...
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Dec 8, 2005
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John Do you have the Helen Long drawings? I know somebody who would love to get his hands on them. David ... etc ... Longs ... has ... correct ... as ... ...
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Hi David, No, unfortunately I don't have any original drawings, only a copy of the original series in ME. This is why I am trying to produce a set of full size...
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Hi all, Just been steam testing Helen now that the boiler is finished. I used the propane torch through the firehole rather than coal as it's more ...
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Hello John, Showing my ignorance, could you please tell me what “PEEK” piston valves are? Is this a material similar to Teflon? Thanks! Keith Taylor...
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Hi Keith, The material I've used is a bearing grade thermoplastic containing 10% Carbon Fibre, PTFE, and Graphite, which goes under various names such as...
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Hi John, It sounds like a very intriguing material! I wonder how suitable it would be for piston rings, and rams for small steam pumps? I’ll have to check to...
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