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Re: [Half inch live steam forum] Re: Bad steaming   Message List  
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It would be interesting to see Les' method of firing. Steves A3 needs a
completely full firebox to steam, let it go below the firehole and you've
lost it. Might be worth a try with the S160 being a similar size firebox?
Draughting, smokebox air tightness and ashpan air flow are good places to
start when improving steaming.
I transformed my Tich by redraughting. Blast nozzle made smaller and a
proper petticoat pipe designed and fitted.
It did 2 complete laps of the Chesterfield track without stopping. Before
mods it simply didn't try to complete a lap.
Valve gear now worn so it'll probably never run again!
Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baguley" <baggo@...>
To: <halfinchlivesteamforum@...>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: [Half inch live steam forum] Re: Bad steaming


> David,
>
> the S160 in question belongs to Les Skinner and the poor steaming
> relates to this particular model and not the design in general. The
> bit in the latest Steam Chest is an abbreviated reply of mine to Les's
> article in the previous Steam Chest.
> The loco was originally built by Brian Butler to his usual high
> standard but apparently has always been a shy steamer. One point I
> noted from Les's article is that the boiler is built as per the plans
> but WITHOUT the water tubes in the firebox. This may well be the
> reason for the poor steaming as they will provide extra heating
> surface and also improved water circulation. The S160 should be a
> better steamer than 'Austere Ada' due to the wider firebox and hence
> larger grate area.
> I had a chat with Les at Little Hay earlier in the year but he hasn't
> had much time to try and sort out the problem yet.
>
> John




Fri Sep 7, 2007 6:30 pm

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It would be interesting to see Les' method of firing. Steves A3 needs a completely full firebox to steam, let it go below the firehole and you've lost it....
Simon Wass
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Sep 7, 2007
6:30 pm

Having now run Helen a few times I find I have to adopt the 'fill the firebox' method of firing as well. So long as the fire is up to the firehole she steams...
John Baguley
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Sep 7, 2007
6:58 pm

Hello John, The best advice I ever got concerning steaming small locomotives came from the late Carl Purinton, the founder of the Brotherhood of Live Steamers,...
Keith Taylor
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Sep 7, 2007
7:36 pm

Hi Keith, that's a very good point and one I'd not considered. Actually I do usually warm up the cylinders etc by running up and down the steaming bay track a...
John Baguley
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Sep 7, 2007
8:16 pm

Hi John, The cylinders won’t “stay warm” until the frames they are bolted to, are also warm. Once I get to the point where the safety valves are...
Keith Taylor
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Sep 7, 2007
8:28 pm

Firing Tich was a full time job, up the 1 in 50 to 1 in 100 long climb to the tunnel I was firing non stop, regulator full open with one hand on the firehole...
Simon Wass
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Sep 8, 2007
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