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#100 From: "robbo100bike70" <robbo100bike70@...>
Date: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:37 pm
Subject: Hand grips wanted
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Anyone got a spare set of handbike grips?

#99 From: "darrell2001ni" <darrell2001ni@...>
Date: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: Marathons in Germany
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sorry robbo i sold my old chair just last week


--- In handcyclinguk@..., "robbo100bike70"
<robbo100bike70@...> wrote:
>
>
> > And of course Berlin is a great one, i did it last year in my
racing
> > chair and missed my start and started with the handcycles and
thats
> one
> > of the reasons i started handcycling. even being a former racing
> > cyclist never considered handcycling but the speed they were
going
> got
> > me interested so i started and its great, so glad i started now.
> >
>
> Darrell, you got any old race chairs to sell. lookig for one with a
> 14" seat?
>
> Cheers
> Robbo
>

#98 From: "darrell2001ni" <darrell2001ni@...>
Date: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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hi andy
im from northern ireland and i use a lying down position on a quickie
shark sport. i could give you a run on it no problem.

darrell


--- In handcyclinguk@..., "thecranker" <cdmadden@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In handcyclinguk@..., "thecranker" <cdmadden@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111"
<t_kelly111@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike
yet - all
> > > about to change asap
> > > > though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits
of the
> > > 'trunk' powered cycle
> > > > against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
> > > >
> > > > I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really
want to
> > > get to proper fitness
> > > > levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could
see
> > > myself racing in the future
> > > > also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
> > > >
> > > > Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
> > > stronger with it? Better cardio
> > > > workout?
> > > >
> > > > All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > Both positions have there advantages and disadvantages, but
that will
> > > mainly be determined by your level of disability and the
> > > terrain/course you will be riding on.
> > >
> > > Most of the low level para's, amps and AB's will use the trunk
powered
> > > bikes due to being able to use their trunk and body weight to
get
> > > right over the cranks to generate more power. The cranks will
be lower
> > > and wider, with lengths from 200-250mm+. The real advantage of
this
> > > position is being able to generate more power for climbing,
sprinting,
> > > riding/racing on course's with constant changes in speed. The
downside
> > > is you are very open to the wind and not very aerodynamic.
> > >
> > > The  Higher levels of disability with limited or no trunk
control will
> > > be in a more reclined position (some almost laying down) using
very
> > > short/narrow cranks (165-185mm)and will ride at a very high
cadence.
> > >  The advantage of this position is being very aerodynamic and
with the
> > > high cadence (due to the short narrow cranks) that you ride at,
on a
> > > fast flat course are able to maintain very high speeds. The real
> > > disadvantage of this position is  climbing and constant changes
in
> speed.
> > >
> > > Both positions will give you a good cardio work out and both
will make
> > > you stronger.
> > >
> > > Due to your level of disability you would defiantly gain on the
hills
> > > on a trunk powered bike.
> > >
> > > Both bikes would be equally suitable for racing for you, with
the
> > > advantages and disadvantages listed above.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps
> > > The Cranker.
> > >
> > Hey The Cranker,
> >
> > That is about all I needed to know - good info there, concise and
to
> the point! Had been
> > thinking along those lines alright - though then I read that
feature
> on the Bike-On site
> > about the pros and cons of each and it confused me even more - a
> little info is a
> > dangerous thing sometimes! Think will plump for the Trunk powered
> bike as plenty of hills
> > where I'm at and I reckon they're unavoidable where I'll be using
it
> when travelling etc.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> No problem always happy to help.
>
> Andy made a good point, if you can try and get to ride both styles
of
> bikes if thats at all possible were you live would be of some help.
> Being comfortable on your bike is just as important. If you go down
> the trunk powered route (longseat/kneeling) then you will be using
> more of your back/trunk muscles. Sometimes people who suffer from
back
> pain just find this position to uncomfortable after a short time on
> the bike. Andy might be able to offer you more advice as I know he
> rides both long seat and recumbent.
>
> The cranker.
>

#97 From: "thecranker" <cdmadden@...>
Date: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:42 am
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "thecranker" <cdmadden@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet - all
> > about to change asap
> > > though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the
> > 'trunk' powered cycle
> > > against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
> > >
> > > I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to
> > get to proper fitness
> > > levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see
> > myself racing in the future
> > > also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
> > >
> > > Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
> > stronger with it? Better cardio
> > > workout?
> > >
> > > All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > Both positions have there advantages and disadvantages, but that will
> > mainly be determined by your level of disability and the
> > terrain/course you will be riding on.
> >
> > Most of the low level para's, amps and AB's will use the trunk powered
> > bikes due to being able to use their trunk and body weight to get
> > right over the cranks to generate more power. The cranks will be lower
> > and wider, with lengths from 200-250mm+. The real advantage of this
> > position is being able to generate more power for climbing, sprinting,
> > riding/racing on course's with constant changes in speed. The downside
> > is you are very open to the wind and not very aerodynamic.
> >
> > The  Higher levels of disability with limited or no trunk control will
> > be in a more reclined position (some almost laying down) using very
> > short/narrow cranks (165-185mm)and will ride at a very high cadence.
> >  The advantage of this position is being very aerodynamic and with the
> > high cadence (due to the short narrow cranks) that you ride at, on a
> > fast flat course are able to maintain very high speeds. The real
> > disadvantage of this position is  climbing and constant changes in
speed.
> >
> > Both positions will give you a good cardio work out and both will make
> > you stronger.
> >
> > Due to your level of disability you would defiantly gain on the hills
> > on a trunk powered bike.
> >
> > Both bikes would be equally suitable for racing for you, with the
> > advantages and disadvantages listed above.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > The Cranker.
> >
> Hey The Cranker,
>
> That is about all I needed to know - good info there, concise and to
the point! Had been
> thinking along those lines alright - though then I read that feature
on the Bike-On site
> about the pros and cons of each and it confused me even more - a
little info is a
> dangerous thing sometimes! Think will plump for the Trunk powered
bike as plenty of hills
> where I'm at and I reckon they're unavoidable where I'll be using it
when travelling etc.
>
> Thanks again.
>
No problem always happy to help.

Andy made a good point, if you can try and get to ride both styles of
bikes if thats at all possible were you live would be of some help.
Being comfortable on your bike is just as important. If you go down
the trunk powered route (longseat/kneeling) then you will be using
more of your back/trunk muscles. Sometimes people who suffer from back
pain just find this position to uncomfortable after a short time on
the bike. Andy might be able to offer you more advice as I know he
rides both long seat and recumbent.

The cranker.

#96 From: "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@...>
Date: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:32 am
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "thecranker" <cdmadden@...> wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet - all
> about to change asap
> > though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the
> 'trunk' powered cycle
> > against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
> >
> > I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to
> get to proper fitness
> > levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see
> myself racing in the future
> > also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
> >
> > Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
> stronger with it? Better cardio
> > workout?
> >
> > All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> Both positions have there advantages and disadvantages, but that will
> mainly be determined by your level of disability and the
> terrain/course you will be riding on.
>
> Most of the low level para's, amps and AB's will use the trunk powered
> bikes due to being able to use their trunk and body weight to get
> right over the cranks to generate more power. The cranks will be lower
> and wider, with lengths from 200-250mm+. The real advantage of this
> position is being able to generate more power for climbing, sprinting,
> riding/racing on course's with constant changes in speed. The downside
> is you are very open to the wind and not very aerodynamic.
>
> The  Higher levels of disability with limited or no trunk control will
> be in a more reclined position (some almost laying down) using very
> short/narrow cranks (165-185mm)and will ride at a very high cadence.
>  The advantage of this position is being very aerodynamic and with the
> high cadence (due to the short narrow cranks) that you ride at, on a
> fast flat course are able to maintain very high speeds. The real
> disadvantage of this position is  climbing and constant changes in speed.
>
> Both positions will give you a good cardio work out and both will make
> you stronger.
>
> Due to your level of disability you would defiantly gain on the hills
> on a trunk powered bike.
>
> Both bikes would be equally suitable for racing for you, with the
> advantages and disadvantages listed above.
>
> Hope this helps
> The Cranker.
>
Hey The Cranker,

That is about all I needed to know - good info there, concise and to the point!
Had been
thinking along those lines alright - though then I read that feature on the
Bike-On site
about the pros and cons of each and it confused me even more - a little info is
a
dangerous thing sometimes! Think will plump for the Trunk powered bike as plenty
of hills
where I'm at and I reckon they're unavoidable where I'll be using it when
travelling etc.

Thanks again.

#95 From: "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@...>
Date: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "andrew.clanahan" <andrew_c@...> wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "daveironsides321"
> <ironsides3foot6@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet -
> all
> > about to change asap
> > > though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the
> > 'trunk' powered cycle
> > > against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
> > >
> > > I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to
> > get to proper fitness
> > > levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see
> > myself racing in the future
> > > also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
> > >
> > > Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
> > stronger with it? Better cardio
> > > workout?
> > >
> > > All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Hi there,
> > I am T4/5 complete and have a Top End Gold that is really for a
> lower
> > injury person. It has wider cranks and you can really power on if as
> > you are have trunk power to add to the equation. I personally am now
> > looking for a recumbent handcycle for racing as I find it slightly
> > more difficult to keep up with similar riders, but I really have
> found
> >  a considerable difference in my own health and weight loss since I
> > started cycling just a few months ago. I have already found I have
> > much more strength and my stamina is also improving. I also have a
> > cycle turbo trainer that I use a lot in my garage to keep fit when
> it
> > is raining, as it does a lot in Wales.
> > Hope these comments help and I'm sure a few more will chip in.
> >
> > regards Dave
>
> I think you have to try different bikes to see how you get on with
> them. I am L1/2 incomplete and think trunk power is better for all
> round fitness and for me it is better on hills where I struggle on a
> more reclined bike.
>
> Where are you based? I have two bikes, and you could try them if you
> are not too far away from Telford (I doubt I can get both in my car
> but could try). If the weather is reasonable I am likely to be
> meeting up with Paul, who has a kneeler, on Thursday near Knutsford
> if that is any closer.
> >
Thanks for the reply and the offer but I'm based in sunny Ireland so that's a
non-sarter!
The thing is I was thinking along the same lines as what you've just pointed
out- my
lesion, although high(ish) has left me with function approximating a lumbar
level, bit of
leg, good trunk, abs and all that so I thought that i would benefit more from
the trunk
powered bike, fitness wise. And around where I would be using it there is no
shortage of
inclines, not very long but frequent, up and down stuff. As you point out logic
would seem
to point towards the trunk powered bike - it should also work on those muscle
groups
which are kinda not used day to day while pushing a chair around - what ya
think,

Thanks again.
>

#94 From: "thecranker" <cdmadden@...>
Date: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:45 am
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet - all
about to change asap
> though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the
'trunk' powered cycle
> against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
>
> I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to
get to proper fitness
> levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see
myself racing in the future
> also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
>
> Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
stronger with it? Better cardio
> workout?
>
> All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
>
> Thanks.
>
Both positions have there advantages and disadvantages, but that will
mainly be determined by your level of disability and the
terrain/course you will be riding on.

Most of the low level para's, amps and AB's will use the trunk powered
bikes due to being able to use their trunk and body weight to get
right over the cranks to generate more power. The cranks will be lower
and wider, with lengths from 200-250mm+. The real advantage of this
position is being able to generate more power for climbing, sprinting,
riding/racing on course's with constant changes in speed. The downside
is you are very open to the wind and not very aerodynamic.

The  Higher levels of disability with limited or no trunk control will
be in a more reclined position (some almost laying down) using very
short/narrow cranks (165-185mm)and will ride at a very high cadence.
  The advantage of this position is being very aerodynamic and with the
high cadence (due to the short narrow cranks) that you ride at, on a
fast flat course are able to maintain very high speeds. The real
disadvantage of this position is  climbing and constant changes in speed.

Both positions will give you a good cardio work out and both will make
you stronger.

Due to your level of disability you would defiantly gain on the hills
on a trunk powered bike.

Both bikes would be equally suitable for racing for you, with the
advantages and disadvantages listed above.

Hope this helps
The Cranker.

#93 From: "andrew.clanahan" <andrew_c@...>
Date: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:51 am
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "daveironsides321"
<ironsides3foot6@...> wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet -
all
> about to change asap
> > though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the
> 'trunk' powered cycle
> > against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
> >
> > I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to
> get to proper fitness
> > levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see
> myself racing in the future
> > also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
> >
> > Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
> stronger with it? Better cardio
> > workout?
> >
> > All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>
> Hi there,
> I am T4/5 complete and have a Top End Gold that is really for a
lower
> injury person. It has wider cranks and you can really power on if as
> you are have trunk power to add to the equation. I personally am now
> looking for a recumbent handcycle for racing as I find it slightly
> more difficult to keep up with similar riders, but I really have
found
>  a considerable difference in my own health and weight loss since I
> started cycling just a few months ago. I have already found I have
> much more strength and my stamina is also improving. I also have a
> cycle turbo trainer that I use a lot in my garage to keep fit when
it
> is raining, as it does a lot in Wales.
> Hope these comments help and I'm sure a few more will chip in.
>
> regards Dave

I think you have to try different bikes to see how you get on with
them. I am L1/2 incomplete and think trunk power is better for all
round fitness and for me it is better on hills where I struggle on a
more reclined bike.

Where are you based? I have two bikes, and you could try them if you
are not too far away from Telford (I doubt I can get both in my car
but could try). If the weather is reasonable I am likely to be
meeting up with Paul, who has a kneeler, on Thursday near Knutsford
if that is any closer.
>

#92 From: "r_m_thomas_uk" <handcyclist@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "russpinder" <russ-yahoo1@...>
wrote:
>
> I've looked at the sustrans network round me (South of Oxford) and
> there's lots of paths, most completely separate from the road and
> passing through lovely countryside. Unfortunately most are protected by
> anti motorcycle barriers which make them completely inaccessible to
> anyone other than able bodied people on normal two wheel cycles.

Sustrans have a policy of not using access barriers that cause us
difficulties. See their "Access Controls" leaflet
(http://www.sustrans.org.uk/webfiles/Info%20sheets/ff22.pdf) which
says that the DDA applies and access restrictions should not be used.
So, these barriers are probably illegal, at least that's what I've
been told, so we just need someone to take a test case to court and
get the law clarified.
Get in contact with your local council cycle officer and Sustrans
office and ask when any barriers are going to be removed. I've had
mixed success here, Edinburgh have been very good but I've not been
able to cycle through Hopetoun House for nearly 5 years now.

I was involved with a Sustrans study of access to traffic free cycle
routes in Scotland and the maps and details are all available for free
download (see http://www.sustrans.org.uk/default.asp?sID=1102349587875)
Note that the assessment criteria are quite severe and I've been able
to cycle many paths without help.
British Waterways and the canal towpaths is another matter - no chance
of getting through their obstructive barriers unaided.

Mike

#91 From: "daveironsides321" <ironsides3foot6@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: Trunk or Reclined?
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet - all
about to change asap
> though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the
'trunk' powered cycle
> against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.
>
> I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to
get to proper fitness
> levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see
myself racing in the future
> also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.
>
> Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get
stronger with it? Better cardio
> workout?
>
> All help and opinions greatly appreciated,
>
> Thanks.
>


Hi there,
I am T4/5 complete and have a Top End Gold that is really for a lower
injury person. It has wider cranks and you can really power on if as
you are have trunk power to add to the equation. I personally am now
looking for a recumbent handcycle for racing as I find it slightly
more difficult to keep up with similar riders, but I really have found
  a considerable difference in my own health and weight loss since I
started cycling just a few months ago. I have already found I have
much more strength and my stamina is also improving. I also have a
cycle turbo trainer that I use a lot in my garage to keep fit when it
is raining, as it does a lot in Wales.
Hope these comments help and I'm sure a few more will chip in.

regards Dave

#90 From: "t_kelly111" <t_kelly111@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:11 pm
Subject: Trunk or Reclined?
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Hey all,

I'm so new to all this that I don't even have my own bike yet - all about to
change asap
though I was wondering as to peoples opinions on the merits of the 'trunk'
powered cycle
against the traditional 'reclined' cycle.

I'm an incomplete para with good trunk function and really want to get to proper
fitness
levels for intermediate/high level basketball tough I could see myself racing in
the future
also - have done quite a bit pre-injury on 2 wheels.

Would I gain on the hills with the trunk version? Will I get stronger with it?
Better cardio
workout?

All help and opinions greatly appreciated,

Thanks.

#89 From: Matthew Lindley <freewheeler54@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: world championships
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Hi,

yes, the date of the bhpc race at Darley Moor has been changed to Saturday July 26th

 

I'll be at the worlds but not to race!



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From: ianmarsden72 <ianmarsden72@...>
Subject: [handcyclinguk] Re: world championships
To: handcyclinguk@...
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 11:38 PM

--- In handcyclinguk@ yahoogroups. co.uk, "AndrewChamings"
<andrewchamings@ ...> wrote:
>
> Who is going to the HPV world championships in August?
>

Hi

I am thinking of going to the HPV Worlds maybe, also i see the race at
Darley moor is on the 26th July and not the 20th so it says on the
website, do you know if this is correct??

Ian



#88 From: "ianmarsden72" <ianmarsden72@...>
Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: world championships
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "AndrewChamings"
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>
> Who is going to the HPV world championships in August?
>

Hi

I am thinking of going to the HPV Worlds maybe, also i see the race at
Darley moor is on the 26th July and not the 20th so it says on the
website, do you know if this is correct??

Ian

#87 From: "AndrewChamings" <andrewchamings@...>
Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:35 pm
Subject: world championships
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Who is going to the HPV world championships in August?

#86 From: "andrew.clanahan" <andrew_c@...>
Date: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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There is an Ordnance Survey book - "22 one-day routes around
Birmingham" which has 10 routes south of the city. Unfortunately they
all seem to be on road and as I don't know the area I have no idea of
their suitability. If you can't find it in a bookshop, I will post the
brief descriptions and if you are interested in any of them I will have
a go at putting them on bikely.com and maybe come down sometime to try
them out too.

I think John Hughes lives somewhere out Kidderminster way - have you
spoken to him about where he cycles?

--- In handcyclinguk@..., "andycheckley" <A.Checkley@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys;
>
> Any Suggestions as to where to use my CB1 - dicing with death on the
> open road is'nt really my thing!
>
> I'm Solihul / Midlands based
>
> Regards Andy
>

#85 From: "russpinder" <russ-yahoo1@...>
Date: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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I've looked at the sustrans network round me (South of Oxford) and
there's lots of paths, most completely separate from the road and
passing through lovely countryside. Unfortunately most are protected by
anti motorcycle barriers which make them completely inaccessible to
anyone other than able bodied people on normal two wheel cycles.

So I'm stuck sharing the roads with the traffic. Which if you pick the
quiet lanes and the quiet times of day is fine.


Russ


> I'd check out the National Cycle Network routes around your area, go
> to http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ and follow the 'Get Cycling' link.
> Looking at what's available around Solihull suggests you'd be better
> off moving (-:
>
> Mike
> Edinburgh, UK
>

#84 From: "andrew.clanahan" <andrew_c@...>
Date: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:37 am
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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I do most of my cycling on the quieter roads and lanes round Telford
and only use cycle lanes where appropriate. When I started out
handcycling I went up and down the Silken Way, a converted railway
track, and it was pretty boring. I am sure that you must have have
somewhere round you that doesn't have much traffic - even if you have
to drive a few miles to get get there.

I have a book of cycle rides around Birmingham lying around
somewhere - I will try and find it and see if there is anything near
Solihull.

If you fancy meeting up in Telford, let me know [or Solihull if you
find anywhere appropriate] - it is always much better when out to be
with someone for encouragement etc. I will probably be meeting Paul R
and having an easy 30 miles ride around Knutsford next week - you are
welcome to come along.

Flags, flashing lights- anything that increases your visibility is
good. One of the recumbent websites (Ice.hpv.co.uk) have a small
light (Weber mLite) which fits on to your flag pole.




--- In handcyclinguk@..., "Ollie Jones" <ojones@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "andycheckley"
> <A.Checkley@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys;
> >
> > Any Suggestions as to where to use my CB1 - dicing with death on
> the
> > open road is'nt really my thing!
> >
> > I'm Solihul / Midlands based
> >
> > Regards Andy
>
>
> Don't miss out on road cycling, I ride several routes around
central
> London at the weekends (as it is a little quieter) and North London
> without to much hassle (touch wood). Most drivers will have the
WTF!
> attitude and give you a wide berth, look out for roads with bus/
> cycle lanes as they will give you a fair bit more of the road to
play
> with and try and signal when you can to give yourself a fighting
> chance. If in doubt of your confidence, ride with a mate on a
bicyle
> so you have (A) company (B) someone to make more space between you,
> the kerb and other road traffic.
>
> Ollie.
> http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/by/metro
>

#83 From: "Ollie Jones" <ojones@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "andycheckley"
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>
> Hi Guys;
>
> Any Suggestions as to where to use my CB1 - dicing with death on
the
> open road is'nt really my thing!
>
> I'm Solihul / Midlands based
>
> Regards Andy


Don't miss out on road cycling, I ride several routes around central
London at the weekends (as it is a little quieter) and North London
without to much hassle (touch wood). Most drivers will have the WTF!
attitude and give you a wide berth, look out for roads with bus/
cycle lanes as they will give you a fair bit more of the road to play
with and try and signal when you can to give yourself a fighting
chance. If in doubt of your confidence, ride with a mate on a bicyle
so you have (A) company (B) someone to make more space between you,
the kerb and other road traffic.

Ollie.
http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/by/metro

#82 From: "r_m_thomas_uk" <handcyclist@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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> Any Suggestions as to where to use my CB1 - dicing with death on the
> open road is'nt really my thing!

Don't miss out on road cycling, get yourself a flag and mirror so you
can see and be seen. Using your mirror also helps you to be assertive
with road positioning.
We've got lots of on-road cycle lanes up here in Edinburgh and I've
got to the point where I'm happy to cycle in the centre of the city,
though I do tend to avoid the busiest times!

> I'm Solihul / Midlands based

I'd check out the National Cycle Network routes around your area, go
to http://www.sustrans.org.uk/ and follow the 'Get Cycling' link.
Looking at what's available around Solihull suggests you'd be better
off moving (-:

Mike
Edinburgh, UK

#81 From: <buttsmount@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: Darley Moore
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Hi Andy

Sorry can't make Saturday. See you on Sunday though.

Cheers

Steve




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Subject: [handcyclinguk] Darley Moore


No-one up for a ride on the Saturday?

#80 From: "robbo100bike70" <robbo100bike70@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:08 am
Subject: Re: Marathons in Germany
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> And of course Berlin is a great one, i did it last year in my racing
> chair and missed my start and started with the handcycles and thats
one
> of the reasons i started handcycling. even being a former racing
> cyclist never considered handcycling but the speed they were going
got
> me interested so i started and its great, so glad i started now.
>

Darrell, you got any old race chairs to sell. lookig for one with a
14" seat?

Cheers
Robbo

#79 From: "andrew.clanahan" <andrew_c@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:34 am
Subject: Darley Moore
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No-one up for a ride on the Saturday?

#78 From: "Matt" <freewheeler54@...>
Date: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: Where to use my HandCycle
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Andy Clanahan has put together a website with routes -
http://handcycle-routes.synthasite.com/

Have a look.  Andy lives in Telford so may be able to advise you on
suitable routes in your area.


--- In handcyclinguk@..., "andycheckley" <A.Checkley@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys;
>
> Any Suggestions as to where to use my CB1 - dicing with death on the
> open road is'nt really my thing!
>
> I'm Solihul / Midlands based
>
> Regards Andy
>

#77 From: "andycheckley" <A.Checkley@...>
Date: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:34 pm
Subject: Where to use my HandCycle
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Hi Guys;

Any Suggestions as to where to use my CB1 - dicing with death on the
open road is'nt really my thing!

I'm Solihul / Midlands based

Regards Andy

#76 From: "darrell2001ni" <darrell2001ni@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: Marathons in Germany
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And of course Berlin is a great one, i did it last year in my racing
chair and missed my start and started with the handcycles and thats one
of the reasons i started handcycling. even being a former racing
cyclist never considered handcycling but the speed they were going got
me interested so i started and its great, so glad i started now.

--- In handcyclinguk@..., "edd7874" <edd7874@...> wrote:
>
> --- In handcyclinguk@..., "wilzimm2000" <wilzimm2000@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Just been passed some info on handcycle friendly marathons in
Germany
> > (see the links below)
> >
> > Duesseldorf http://www.rhein-marathon.de/
> > or Cologne http://www.koeln-marathon.de/ ,
>
> >
> ref marathon web sites look no further, click on the link below and
you
> will find every thing you need including travell etc ect
> http://www.100marathonclub.org.uk/links.html#linkrace
> cheers Edd
>

#75 From: "edd7874" <edd7874@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:29 pm
Subject: Re: Marathons in Germany
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--- In handcyclinguk@..., "wilzimm2000" <wilzimm2000@...>
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> Just been passed some info on handcycle friendly marathons in Germany
> (see the links below)
>
> Duesseldorf http://www.rhein-marathon.de/
> or Cologne http://www.koeln-marathon.de/ ,

>
ref marathon web sites look no further, click on the link below and you
will find every thing you need including travell etc ect
http://www.100marathonclub.org.uk/links.html#linkrace
cheers Edd

#74 From: "edd7874" <edd7874@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: Where did all the messages go?
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ref marathon web sites look no further click on link below and you will
find every thing you need including travell etc ect
http://www.100marathonclub.org.uk/links.html#linkrace
cheers Edd

#73 From: Matthew Lindley <freewheeler54@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:45 am
Subject: Re: Where did all the messages go?
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This is most strange!!

 

I've asked Barry to look into this as he is the moderator of the group

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Subject: [handcyclinguk] Where did all the messages go?
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Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:58 AM





#72 From: "wilzimm2000" <wilzimm2000@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:25 am
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Just been passed some info on handcycle friendly marathons in Germany
(see the links below)

Duesseldorf http://www.rhein-marathon.de/
or Cologne http://www.koeln-marathon.de/ ,

#71 From: "robbo100bike70" <robbo100bike70@...>
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:58 am
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