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Re: [iatefl_pronsig] The Communication Equation: C=S+R


Well, thank you very much, Johnathan, yes, the 'Minus 1 and 2' quotients are really just metaphors for a small change and large change. The real issue is, however, change from WHAT? There are so many versions of English out there that we cant really identify one native speaker variety to base any clear standards on.
And yet we go on trying.

I am about to post a version of this on YouTube, so watch this space for an announcement.

Cheers,
Chris P. 


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Hello Pron SIG'sters, i am a new member, and a 5-year vet of teaching in Japan. In case you dont know, they routinely add syllables and change the...
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Nov 10, 2008
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Welcome! I like the simplicity and memorability of the equations. Exactly what 'minus 1' and 'minus 2' are needs elaboration, of course, and the elaboration...
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Nov 21, 2008
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Well, thank you very much, Johnathan, yes, the 'Minus 1 and 2' quotients are really just metaphors for a small change and large change. The real issue is,...
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Nov 22, 2008
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Hi Chris! Did the YouTube thing ever happen with this? Alex....
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Oct 11, 2009
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... I argued over 20 years ago and still argue that the model might be derived from what is the same across all speakers of English who can and do communicate...
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Oct 14, 2009
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Good point, CJ, on how international (i suppose you mean Non Native Speakers) negotiate the straights and narrow shoals of World Englishes, especially in...
Chris P. Bluetree
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Oct 14, 2009
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... I'm a 20 year something or other. Some say the word is masochist (which typically applies after 7 years). ... change the pronunciation of most of their...
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Oct 14, 2009
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Hi CJ, et al. Let me address your queries: As for the way North Americans pronounce 'karaoke' this stems from some fundamental errors in 'Romaji"; English...
Chris P. Bluetree
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Oct 14, 2009
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... It seems to me that when you look at the various systems of romanization for Japanese, the results are more like a stripped down version of a romance...
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As for what you are doing in that analysis of prominence and intonation, pragmatics has long academically treated the topic. For example: ...
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And about romanization of Japanese: back in the audio-lingual era, a JFL dept. at Cornell developed--I think based on the work of some structuralist...
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