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Hi everyone!

Well, 2009 has arrived and everyone I've spoken to in the last few days is
stressed about
the return to work. Hope you are all coping ok!

I'm still struggling away with learning Japanese. One of the striking aspects
for a beginner
with English as L1 is the need to 'chant' so many greetings and others 'ritual'
statements -
before eating, after eating, on leaving shops... even saying thank you, for
which "chiz"
would be enough in Newcastle, requires a carefully intoned "Arigatou gozaimasu"
- once I
started getting that right, my relationship with shopkeepers and so forth
improved
enormously. I've been surprised by how much difference a focus on intonation
makes for
basic communication. As for really communicating in Japanese, well, I'm still in
a 'silent
period'... It's a tough language. I found learning Spanish difficult but looking
back that
was a walk in the park.

A technical question, just in case there's anyone out there with knowledge of
Japanese
phonology...
I've seen the basic rules for voicing for sequences of sounds, but I can't find
the logic
behind "shima" (island) being voiced to "jima". Why is it Oomishima, but
Kurumijima?
Yashima, but Miyajima? Is there a phonological basis for these, or as place
names should I
just take them as they are?

All the best for the New Year, and I look forward to hearing from you.

Alex.

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Hi everyone! Well, 2009 has arrived and everyone I've spoken to in the last few days is stressed about the return to work. Hope you are all coping ok! I'm...
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Hello Alex, (et al) and "Akeh omeh, koto yolo" to you too! For those of you who dont know Japanese, they are big-time 'clippers', wherein they will take a...
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Thanks for the tips. I've been reading up on the "Rendaku" rules for Japanese pronunciation (the rules concerning when certain consonants are voiced) and found...
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Hello Alex, and group. Yes, the Spanish rolling /r/ will not help you much in Japanese, unless of course you are feeling very incensed! The only time the...
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