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Re: ELF and the Lingua Franca core

Hi, Steph!



--- In iatefl_pronsig@..., "stephanie gilkes"
<stephaniegilkes@...> wrote:
> Would you (and other pronsig members) agree with the following? In my opinion,
ELF phonology is not as fraught with sociopolitical issues as researchers such
as Jenkins assume. (Jenkins 2000, also cf.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/jan/22/tefl.wordsandlanguage) Jenkins'
concerns about 'native speakerism' apply more to other areas of language
teaching, such as the sociolinguistic examples I gave above. In other words, if
we make a prescriptive statement that a particular pronunciation of a segment
should be the global 'norm,' we are just delineating an area of phonological
space. To English learners, it is just a statement about articulatory behaviour:
it is irrelevant that the norm comes from a particular 'native' variety.
Whereas, if we state that a certain sociolinguistic practice should be the
global 'norm' (e.g. the handshaking example above), this is cultural
imperialism, because it is a statement about social behaviour.

I agree with you. And I would like to add that some of the Lingua Franca Core
features are not practical, e.g., maintaining tense/lax opposition in vowels. I
think that is too demanding, except perhaps for German speakers or speakers of
those languages with this contrast.

I went to Mexico last year and met a tour guide switching beautifully between
Spanish and English, but his English pronunciation did not make qualitative
distinction between /i/ and /I/, replacing the contrast with that of quantity.
And no one seemed to have problems with that.

I know that ELF people are constructing a corpus called "Vienna-Oxford
International Corpus of English (VOICE)
http://www.univie.ac.at/voice/page/index.php ," but I am disappointed to find
that there is no phonetic and scarce prosodic transcriptions in the corpus. Such
transcriptions would have provided a useful dataset to explore empirically what
people are doing pronunciation-wise in Lingua Franca situations.

> Having said this, of course, I'm Australian, so a rigid requirement for
American English pronunciation would put me out of a job! Oh well. Incidentally,
what are your university students majoring in? English? Or do they take English
as part of another degree? I haven't taught at any universities in Japan, only a
senmon gakko (for one semester). I worked for Japanese companies as a technical
proofreader and on-demand English teacher; usually preparing businessmen for
overseas postings. However, I'm planning to return to Japan in 2011/2012, and
will aim to work at a university then.

Hey, Steph, you are very welcome to our university!

-Takehiko Makino, Chuo University, Tokyo





Fri Jun 5, 2009 4:51 am

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Hello PronSIG members, Can anyone help? I'm looking for a research topic (in the area of phonology and TESOL) and time is running out! Aaargh! I have an...
stephanie gilkes
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May 11, 2009
5:35 am

Hi Stephanie, Have you got any initial ideas to work from? Given your interest in technical phonology, Japanese and that you want something applicable to...
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May 17, 2009
6:08 am

Hi Alex, Thank you for responding so quickly. Your suggested topic sounds perfect! As you've noted, there is a huge discrepancy in the depth of knowledge in...
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May 19, 2009
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Hi Steph, Glad the idea hit the spot! I'm trying to get my head around the way that stuff works. I think it's the kind of area where research can genuinely...
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Jun 3, 2009
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Hi Alex, I was very interested to read you comments about English as a Global Lingua Franca, especially your students' expected use of English. Students in the...
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Jun 4, 2009
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Hi, Steph! ... I agree with you. And I would like to add that some of the Lingua Franca Core features are not practical, e.g., maintaining tense/lax opposition...
mackinac1965
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Jun 5, 2009
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Hi Takehiko, I was surprised too when I saw that the VOICE project was making no attempt to examine intonation and only very weak notes on pronunciation. It...
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Jun 16, 2009
12:09 pm

Hi Takehiko, Thank you for the VOICE reference - it certainly has the potential to be a valuable resource, but what a shame they haven't included phonetic...
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