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Hi again,
Ok, sometimes I like to throw ideas at the wall to see what sticks, so do tell
me I talking
rubbish...

Most of English morphology is based on one mouth position. That position is the
blade of
the tongue against the alveolar ridge, with varying movements to make the
sounds. That
position gives /s, z, t, d, n, ŋ, ʃ,ʒ, ʤ,ʧ,l/, move the
tongue down a little bit and you get,
/r/ and a bit more to get /ə/... Those sounds are the basis of English
lexical and
grammatical morphology - past tense, third person, plurals, negatives, 'will'
contractions,
gerunds etc.
Compare how these sounds are produced in other languages:
In Spanish /s, z, t, d/ tend to be dental. In Japanese (not so sure on this
one), they are
produced with the tip of the tongue against the lower teeth.
Go on, try it now, make all the sounds with alveolar, dental and lower teeth
articulation.
With single sounds it's not difficult, but try saying "strength" with a dental
or lower teeth
tongue position.
As an extra twist in the situation, research into casual speech (check out
Shockey 2003,
google it) suggests that these sounds are the ones which are most frequently
changed or
omitted but, from what I could see, only when they are redundant due to other
sounds
(obvious example is "can't" pronounced without a /t/ sound).
So. Does this imply that some form of articulation training would be useful from
early
levels in ELT?






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Hi again, Ok, sometimes I like to throw ideas at the wall to see what sticks, so do tell me I talking rubbish... Most of English morphology is based on one...
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I'm a great believer in appropriate articulatory training i.e. according to need, not a trot through the phonemes of English, but was hammered for saying so in...
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Dennis, did you ever forward that discussion to the group? I'm very interested. CJ...
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The discussion should still be available on the TTEdSIG group site. It's an interesting discussion. I recommend having a look through it. I'm not sure it would...
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I believe I found the 'mother lode' searching under phonetics and finally hitting on: L2 pedagogical theory and pronunciation It amazes me that there are some...
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Also found this, with which I would have to agree: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ttedsig/message/3305 Re: [ttedsig] Phonology, phonetics, and whether adults...
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For a better pronunciation tool, how about linking English pronunciation to English spelling as closely as possible. The IPA and other notations don't really...
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Dear all I am new to the list but this discussion caught my eye or shall I say 'ear ' ... I have to add that a dear friend of mine, Ivana, will have a rather ...
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... The ITA was such a system and it had limited success because languages and their written forms are usually controlled by large populations of 'native...
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Point 1, Truespel is merely a pronuncation guide. Just use present ESL materials and when pressed for pronunciation use truespel instead of IPA. Use the free...
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... It's only a pronunciation guide in a superficial sense of providing a consistent simple spelling for words and their parts. ... I think you are wrong,...
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Truespel is no more superficial than any other pronunciation guide. None of those show prosody or supersegmentals for English that I know of. Getting too...
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I didn't say that Truespel is more superficial than other phonetic or phonemic alphabets. What I said and am saying is that students who do not have much...
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I think this term has limited value in any real phonetic-articulatory description of a language for pedagogical purposes. It seems to come from Halle and...
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... English [r] and [l] are strikingly parallel--they both assimilate / co-articulate with preceding vowels for example. Within [r] it is customary to...
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