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I agree. Of course one problem is that 'communicative' as a notion means different things to different people, and if you dropped in on a range of...
Jonathan Marks
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Oct 11, 2007
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I now realise that my first sentence "I agree" is ambiguous. What I mean is that I agree with what Peter wrote! Jonathan...
Jonathan Marks
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Oct 11, 2007
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"Discourse Intonation is both too complex for learners to accept, and too simplified to be useful." Discourse Intonation (DI) is in essence mechanically simple...
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Oct 16, 2007
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Have you read Wayne Rimmer's article "Syntax and pronunciation" in Speak Out! 37? If not, do - it makes some very interesting and valid observations about how...
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Oct 17, 2007
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Sorry folks, in my post "Syntax and pronunciation", in section 4, 'right-dislocated' should read 'left-dislocated'. Jonathan...
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Oct 17, 2007
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Hi everyone! Thanks to all of you who have voted in polls and posted your thoughts. I must apologize as I've been a bit distracted over the last month writing...
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Nov 7, 2007
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Hi everyone, Well, there were 7 votes against this and only 1 for, yet drilling seems to be one of the most popular ways of teaching pronunciation. Course...
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Nov 13, 2007
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Well there's a clear consensus here, but I have to agree to Peter's post that pronunciation has been excluded from much of present teaching. Yule & Brown said...
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Nov 14, 2007
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To reply to Alex's question, I think the answer is the same as it would be to teaching any language sub-skill - by making it fun! I think teachers are indeed...
BERNARD Anna
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Nov 15, 2007
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OK, maybe I put it a bit too strong in this poll! I do believe though that the best results are obtained for pronunciation in 1-1 sessions with an experienced...
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Nov 15, 2007
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The results of this poll were interesting, and indicate a serious issue that we need to deal with in pronunciation. Pronunciation teaching is often equated...
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Nov 16, 2007
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In my experience , both as teacher and foreigner (I live in Germany) , however good your command of a language, you only feel really at one with yourself in...
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Nov 17, 2007
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Has anyone got any tips/literature or website suggestions for helping Italian speakers of English to improve their pronunciation ? Angela (Sprotte)...
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Nov 17, 2007
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I am doing my masters thesis on pronunciation learning strategies. If you hve ny suggestions or comments I am always open to them. Best, Gülcin...
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Nov 18, 2007
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... Hi Gulcin, Not an academic suggestion, but I really recommend that you watch "My Fair Lady", and read Pygmalion (which you can get at...
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Nov 19, 2007
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... Hi Angela, I've experienced this phenomenon of personalities coming across differently when speaking different languages too. I'm not sure though that...
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Nov 19, 2007
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Yes, I think that's exactly it Angela ... Hi Angela, I've experienced this phenomenon of personalities coming across differently when speaking different...
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I like the point you raise, Alex, about there being two "registers" of pronunciation (see bold bit below). I teach pronunciation to (amongst others) air...
BERNARD Anna
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Learning the pronunciation of a foreign language involves, to varying extents depending on what the L1 and L2 are, automating unfamiliar distributions of...
Jonathan Marks
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Nov 25, 2007
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Fun, yes - or, more generally: engaging, which doesn't mean fun all the time, necessarily. I think people, including teachers, tend to be daunted by the...
Jonathan Marks
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Nov 25, 2007
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Ah, ya big killjoy! No, I agree with you, Jonathan, engaging is more fitting terminology. And I also agree with you that if we can find ways of encouraging...
BERNARD Anna
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Nov 26, 2007
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If any of you find these references to knitted aliens and blue string soup mysterious, just google 'Clangers' and you'll be able to read about them, see them...
Jonathan Marks
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Nov 27, 2007
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Hi Angela, I think that more research is needed into this concept of identity. I've had a different experience with Spanish. I first learnt in Madrid, and...
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Nov 28, 2007
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I would be delighted to...truly....but can I wait for my two children under the age of 3 to grow up a bit first? 2010 maybe...I love forward planning! Yours...
BERNARD Anna
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Nov 28, 2007
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Hi Jonathan, I think you make a really important distinction there - mindless vs. mindful repetitions. Where there's reflection on the articulations, though,...
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Hi Anna, I think your last paragraph is a perfect sum up of a major problem that we are faced with in TESOL now. All of the teaching models, from Sweet to...
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Nov 28, 2007
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She wasn't French was she? I can "hound" on the "th" depending on the context. For example, the very important aeronautical word "throttle" if pronounced...
BERNARD Anna
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Nov 29, 2007
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One thing that stands out for me is that Alex's Italian student reached a point where she had the option of sounding or not sounding British. Before that -...
Jonathan Marks
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Nov 29, 2007
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Aha. This seems like an example of the multi-competence or style-shifting I've just written about - I should be more assiduous in reading these contributions...
Jonathan Marks
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Nov 29, 2007
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Hi Everyone, There's lots of interesting stuff in the latest Speak Out! - I look forward to discussing all that. But for the moment, season's greetings to you...
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