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Hard to say what an 'English' accent is. But I've just been reading John Peel's* semi-auto-biography, and thought these two extracts might be of some interest....
Jonathan Marks
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Feb 1, 2008
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Shakespeare is often performed in what we understand to be the "Queen's English" but in OP (original pronunciation) it is fascinatingly different as the work...
BERNARD Anna
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Feb 1, 2008
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Hi, I think Jonathan's points highlight the variety of regional pronunciation of English, and the importance role of pron in marking identity. Some strange...
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Feb 3, 2008
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"The vulgar Americans speak much better than the vulgar in Great Britain for a very obvious reason viz. that being much more unsettled, and moving frequently...
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About mindful vs. mindless repetition - Mick Randall, in his book 'Memory, Psychology and Second Language Learning', though not in a section about...
Jonathan Marks
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Feb 13, 2008
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Hi there, I've been doing some transcriptions of classes recently, and one thing that has struck me has been just how strange teacher language is in terms of...
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Um a question for people up on ICT for pron! In her book from 2002 on Discourse Intonation, Chun says that since speech analysis software can't show smooth...
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Hi folks, Ok, Jenkins' Lingua Franca Core, which is quoted all over the place, was based on 30 hours of rather selectively analyzed data. Are there any other...
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Hi again, Ok, sometimes I like to throw ideas at the wall to see what sticks, so do tell me I talking rubbish... Most of English morphology is based on one...
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I'm a great believer in appropriate articulatory training i.e. according to need, not a trot through the phonemes of English, but was hammered for saying so in...
Dennis Newson
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Feb 22, 2008
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Dear All, Please find enclosed a CfP for a phonetics conference to be help at the English department in Belgrade in March. *1ST BELGRADE INTERNATIONAL MEETING...
Biljana Cubrovic
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Feb 22, 2008
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This is just a quick selection of some of the recent postings on pronunciation to TTEdSIG. There is more, but this message is already very long. Dennis ...
Dennis Newson
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Feb 23, 2008
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Dear members of Pronsig, I've been looking for clear diagrams of the tongue positions of Engish vowels - RP, I suppose, or have PC values been mapped...
Dennis Newson
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Feb 23, 2008
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Welcome, Dennis. There are (at least?) two types of vowel diagrams - 1 positions of the highest/frontmost part of the tongue for each vowel mapped onto an...
Jonathan Marks
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Hi Dennis, ... I too am persuaded that vocal tract self-awareness is necessary in order to produce vowels or consonants which have no visible cues. I wrote an...
Madalena Cruz-Ferreira
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Feb 24, 2008
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John and Madelena, Thank you both for exactly the sort of references I was looking for. It's virtual furniture I was wanting to build, Jonathan, though having...
Dennis Newson
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Feb 24, 2008
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Some of these might help: Sinclair J & Brazil D 1982 Teacher Talk (OUP) Hewings M 1987 Intonation and feedback in the EFL classroom, in Coulthard M (ed.)...
Jonathan Marks
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Feb 24, 2008
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I can't really answer your question, Alex, but there are interesting and generally rather sceptical articles about ELF in IATEFL Voices 200. Also: I-Chun Kuo:...
Jonathan Marks
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Feb 24, 2008
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Like a lot of things, it depends how native-like learners want to sound. (The equivalents of) those sounds are dental in many (most?) European languages, and...
Jonathan Marks
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Feb 24, 2008
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Thanks for passing this on to us, Dennis. You wrote: "I'd say that acceptable pronunciation is the foundation of communication. What sort of communication can...
Jonathan Marks
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Feb 24, 2008
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Johnathan writes: " I think it's incontrovertible that non-intelligible (not quite the same as non-acceptable) pronunciation is potentially the first ...
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Feb 25, 2008
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Hi Dennis, Thanks for these interesting posts. I think I do have some issues with the idea of practising relevant individual sounds. I don't think it's wholly...
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dnewson2001 <djn@...> wrote: 1. I'm certainly aware shopping in Germany that some assistants decide as soon as they catch sight of me, before I...
Scott Gannon
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Scott, was it, thanks very much indeed for those interesting and helpful remarks. I think I've been approaching the problem of how to help an individual...
Dennis Newson
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Hi Biljana, Thanks for the event info. I'm afraid I won't be able to make it. I hope some list members will be able to get there. Please let people there know...
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Thanks for the refs, Jonathan. I think I'm more concerned by some of the ways that I see Jenkins' work quoted in TESOL books and articles. It seems that some...
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Cheers for those Jonathan. Not easy books to find. I did get my hands on a copy of 'Teacher Talk'. I can't help feeling that it's an out-dated approach -...
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Hi Dennis, I had a read through the long debate on the teacher training list. Interesting stuff, though there was a lot of 'Bad Science' in my opinion. But I...
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Alex, Thanks for writing. I shall certainly try out your mouth work-out, or get Nina to do so when she returns from the Seychelles in two weeks' time. I felt...
Dennis Newson
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Mar 4, 2008
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I still think some of the 'Birmingham' stuff might be of interest. Or you could look for hints in more general writings such as Tsui: Introducing classroom...
Jonathan Marks
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