For those not a part of the Julio-Claudian Iconography group, I'll post this post here because I want as many opinions as possible... Caesarion. You've got to...
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Michael Mccarthy
sokar90805
Sep 1, 2008 1:15 pm
<<Also I wonder - if he wasn't Caesar's son, then whose?>> The sources I have read did not seem to doubt that he was Caesar's but if memory serves he was...
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robert-blau@...
rb2717
Sep 1, 2008 8:45 pm
Just went for the first time yesterday. FABULOUS place. Six major sections: Nubia (aka Kush), Egypt, the Levant (Israel), Anatolia (Hittites), Mesopotomia...
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amicus@...
alexiuscomnenus
Sep 1, 2008 10:10 pm
Too bad he didn't escape to India. He would have been no threat there and could have established an Indo-Egyptian dynasty....
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geranioj@...
tiberius.aug...
Sep 1, 2008 11:30 pm
Amicus, Good point, I think in India he may have been safe, although this was such a hot political issue he may have been caught and killed? ... From:...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 2, 2008 2:26 am
I think that slave would have needed to have looked a whole bunch like Caesar, otherwise no one would have been fooled when Caesarion grew up. I recall reading...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 2, 2008 5:01 am
Hello. While this topic is not entirely Roman, it does have some Roman connections, so I decided to see if anyone on this board had an opinion on it. I've been...
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michelle morlock
rabagas
Sep 2, 2008 6:13 pm
I am not sure Caesarion was`Caesar's only son. He had a`daughter, Julia, who married Pompey. But he apparently fathered children in Gaul on Gallic women, and...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 3, 2008 3:10 am
I wonder what Octavian would have done if either of Octavia's children by Antony had been a boy... That boy would have been Augustus' equal closest living male...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 5, 2008 9:58 am
Have you read some of this crap? Honestly, despite some of the contributors claims to having knowledge and understanding of the Roman Principate, not a single...
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Michael Mccarthy
sokar90805
Sep 5, 2008 4:02 pm
<<The Roman state was a 'Principate', ruled by a 'Princeps', the first among many, although he shares traits with the concept of an 'Emperor', it is entirely...
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Kim Noyes
kimusinteruptus
Sep 5, 2008 4:05 pm
I doubt anybody at the time but the Romans of the post-Republic period themselves would have referred to it as anything but an empire, don't you think?...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 6, 2008 2:31 am
This is a response for both Michael and Kim. It seems that the term that writers such as Tacitus and Suetonius and Velleius Paterculus use is 'State'. Both...
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P. Dominus Antonius
marsvigilia
Sep 6, 2008 3:10 am
True, perhaps the ancient civilizations caused the earthquakes. You know the Earth trying to shake off those blasted fleas. ;) -- ... Legio XX VV Tony Dah m ...
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Kim Noyes
kimusinteruptus
Sep 6, 2008 3:12 am
Dear Barry, Thank you for your reasoned response. It seems you make an argument for it being thus that the Romans did not view themselves as an empire. ...
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Kim Noyes
kimusinteruptus
Sep 6, 2008 3:16 am
For all we know the naquda in the star gates that enabled civilization to flourish actually triggers earthquakes. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM, P. Dominus...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 6, 2008 11:19 am
Hello Kim, I actually believe that the word 'empire' (their lands) is fair to describe what the Romans had, but, what I was trying to say about the Wikipedia...
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robert-blau@...
rb2717
Sep 6, 2008 12:40 pm
More on: Huge statue of Roman ruler found BBC, 25 August 2008 Parts of a giant, exquisitely carved marble sculpture depicting the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius...
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Michael Mccarthy
sokar90805
Sep 6, 2008 4:17 pm
<< the concept of 'Princeps' is different to that of 'Emperor' or 'King'.>> If we are speaking of the Post-Augustus Roman State, I am not sure that I agree...
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Kim Noyes
kimusinteruptus
Sep 6, 2008 4:25 pm
Are you sure that the Roman Emperors (as we call them) were "merely just another Roman citizen, who just happened to have all the various powers that Augustus...
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robert-blau@...
rb2717
Sep 6, 2008 5:31 pm
Sept. 13-14. "This 2-day festival in Chicago's Grant Park celebrates the music, dance, and traditions of the 7 original Celtic nations: Ireland, Scotland,...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 7, 2008 4:36 am
G'day. I'll respond as I get to each part. ... * Yes, in theory, that's all the ruler of the Roman world was - another citizen. (Expect references soon). Did...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 7, 2008 4:55 am
Hi Michael, Well, he certainly wasn't a 'King'. The Latin word for that was 'Rex', ie. 'Rex Iuba' (King Juba II of Mauretania). And the concept of 'King' was...
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geranioj@...
tiberius.aug...
Sep 7, 2008 5:35 am
In the citation of sources, more precise page references would have been preferable to the "if." typically used in German scholarship. Also, the inaccurate and...
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Kim Noyes
kimusinteruptus
Sep 7, 2008 6:01 am
A rose by any other name still a rose. Both the Romans of antiquity and we Moderns nowadays can call the Roman post-Republican leader whatever they then or we...
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geranioj@...
tiberius.aug...
Sep 7, 2008 6:12 am
Yes, with?respect; about semantics. Julio Claudian Joe ... From: Kim Noyes <kimnoyes@...> To: imperialrome2@... Sent: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 11:01...
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Michael Mccarthy
sokar90805
Sep 7, 2008 6:42 am
<<An emperor by any other name is still an emperor. >> I agree completely. To say that they did not have that title but were only "princeps"; is playing with...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 7, 2008 7:23 am
I see. So following that logic... Lenin was a Tsar. And so was Stalin. I mean after all, their position and power were more or less the same as a Tsar. So...
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postumusagrippa
Sep 7, 2008 9:06 am
<<An emperor by any other name is still an emperor. >> Sorry, but this isn't as clever as it would like to be. ... A rose is a definite thing - you can go and...
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Kim Noyes
kimusinteruptus
Sep 7, 2008 6:28 pm
Barry, You're arguing semantics and missing the point. In fact, you didn't even address my most recent remarks. You strike me as arguing for arguing sake. That...
