Welcome Nick!

Ah, the Meetings question...

how many forum members live in the West Midlands and want to meet up?

Dave E

--- In midlandspaceflightsociety@..., "CHRIS" <Chris@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Forgot to mention, unfortunately we don't hold meetings at present.
>
> CC.
>

Never heard of Starbuster before, but behold, the Web does push out search
results, including CC's Dryden sheet

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/FactSheets/FS-079-DFRC.html

Learn something new everyday!

Dave E


--- In midlandspaceflightsociety@..., martin dawson
<flugluftholgate@...> wrote:
>
>
> Not according to my books...
>
> Will do some digging later...
>
>
>
> Speaks soon
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...
> From: Chris@...
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:31:23 +0000
> Subject: Re: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Of Bell X-2
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yep, according to a Dryden fact sheet it's a Bell-X 2 "Starbuster" !
>
> CC - it's me again!!
>
> p.s don't forget your scan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: martin dawson
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:01 PM
> Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Of Bell X-2
>
>
>
> Hi Spacefans...
> Or am I just talking to CC, is there any one our there?
> Any ways, Q. for you...
> Since when in hell has the Bell X-2 been known as 'Starburster'?
> Am I missing something? Have I not read it any of my books?? Or is NASA
revising its history...
>
> Confused and miffed
>
> 'Uncle' Martin
>
>
>
>
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...
> From: Chris@...
> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:45:47 +0000
> Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Water on the moon
>
>
>
>
>
> Pity it wasn't oil - that would have got Obama to fund NASA!
>
> CC.
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: martin dawson

To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:01 PM

Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Of Bell X-2

 

Hi Spacefans...
Or am I just talking to CC, is there any one our there?
Any ways, Q. for you...
Since when in hell has the Bell X-2 been known as 'Starburster'?
Am I missing something? Have I not read it any of my books?? Or is NASA revising its history...
 
Confused and miffed
 
'Uncle' Martin

 

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To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
From: Chris@clee60.freeserve.co.uk
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:45:47 +0000
Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Water on the moon

 

Pity it wasn't oil - that would have got Obama to fund NASA!

 

CC. 

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From: spaceboosters1969

To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:51 PM

Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Greetings

 

Hi All,

I've joined at last, subscribed to Capcom too and have joined the BIS this month as well.
Best wishes to all that already know me or know of me and also to those that don't yet. Do you still hold monthly meetings??
Thanks,
Nick

Nick Deakin
Proprietor SPACEBOOSTERS
http://www.space-boosters.co.uk

Hi All,

I've joined at last, subscribed to Capcom too and have joined the BIS this month as well.
Best wishes to all that already know me or know of me and also to those that don't yet. Do you still hold monthly meetings??
Thanks,
Nick

Nick Deakin
Proprietor SPACEBOOSTERS
http://www.space-boosters.co.uk

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Nick
Spaceboosters Ltd.

----- Original Message -----

From: martin dawson

To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:44 PM

Subject: RE: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Autographica

 

ANY Spaceman/woman is good in my book.
I could go to Autographica and get 5-6 autos for around 250 zobberos or one auto for 170 zobberos and I would still be happy.
Its like books or model kits, I don't buy them all at once but drip, drip, drip, I'll get them all eventually...
(ask Our Lass or Me Ol' Lady...)
 
But reading the comments on Autographica's forum you would think its the be-all-and-end-all getting auto's!
 
Last April's Autographica I only got Helen Sharman's but I made a day out of it with Our Lass. But to read what some muppits post, its as if they want 100's of guest's just for them!
 
I would add, yes, Tom S was dear, but Sept 2008 I got four for nowt! (Where I caught up with Rob) So really the whole collection has'nt cost me that much and as for 'fund raising'...
 
Thats another story belong to a Boulton Brother's film... he, he, he...
 
Bests
 
'Uncle' Martin 
 

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To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
From: Chris@clee60.freeserve.co.uk
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:56:56 +0000
Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Autographica

 

Gentlemen,

 

I don't know if Rob Wood looks at this forum or not? but I tend to agree with his comments in the latest issue of CapCom.

It would be nice to see some new guests and more cosmonauts (would keep Uncle Ken happy too!).

It was good to see Tom Stafford, but as he points out - at that price all I did was have a look!

The only recent highlights for me at Autographica (not counting meeting up with you boys again) was Alexei Leonov, Bruce McCandless and last but not least our very own Helen Sharman who made a very welcome appearance.

 

Any comments?

 

CC. 

 

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Hi 'Uncle' Nick,
Welcome aboard - hope you enjoy your visits and message's on the MSS Yahoo site.
We are all 'Uncle's' or 'Niece's' - this is a nod to Uncle Roger Bacon who wrote
Staight and Level in FLIGHT International - except 'CC' - that's Chris and he's
a bit of a lad!
Please do have a look at the albums and please do create one for your self plus
post messages. We share a lot of info.
Q. are you aware of Capcom? am sure 'Uncle' Dave would happily provide
subscription details.
Well, must dash
Regards and bests

'Uncle' Martin

----- Original Message -----

From: martin dawson

To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:46 AM

Subject: RE: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Re: Airfix

 

Hi 'Uncle' Dave
White? News to me... Heller-Humbrol was during the '80's, they also got in to bed with a Danish or German company Ceji.
 
So, you lot don't know the silver astronauts?
 
Meccano
 
They had a space themed series and included copies of Airfix's little space men. They were awful kits, Meccano does not do aeroplanes or space. Steam engine, crane and the like, yes.
 
DO Dave do tell more on your modelling, am very interested. You have seen my models in the album pages?
 
Speaks soon
 
'Uncle' Martin
 

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To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
From: d_evetts@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:49:38 +0000
Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Re: Airfix

 

I've just been up to rummage around in the stock pile on top of the wardrobe and found a box of Airfix astronauts.
They are from the Heller-Humbrol era, any idea what year that puts them in? White plastic. I have this strange idea the original issue was yellow, please tell me I'm imagining it.

The box does say 1:72 scale. All the other soft plastic soldiers were OO/HO railway sizes which is 1:76 to 1:87, but the Airfix soldier scales were a law unto themselves. The British paratrooper figures were beautifully crafted but about twice the size of the German infantry sold at the same time.

Silver astronauts? Never seen them. Not Preiser?

Almost 20 years ago, Andy Salmon and I were contemplating making more accurate lunar rover models in white metal to go with the figures. Never got round to it, and I don't think I have the touch any more to attempt making a master model.

Dave E

--- In midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk, martin dawson <flugluftholgate@...> wrote:
>
>
> Nope, try again....
>
>
>
> But Revell did do some kits of Gemini astronauts conducting EVA's...
>
>
>
> Any idea of the scales and the monumental cock-up Revell did with one of them in the '80's...
>
>
>
> Bests
>
>
>
> 'Uncle' Martin
>
>
>
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
> From: Chris@...
> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:07:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Airfix
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Were the silver ones revell ?
>
> CC.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: martin dawson
> To : midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:20 AM
> Subject: RE: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Airfix
>
>
>
> Do I....
>
> Made of the horrible poly-ethlyn-vinal-wats-it.
>
> They were part of Airfix's 'toy-soldier' range but to 1:72 and not 1:76 scale. They had astronauts with camera and a flag plus three vehicles a simple LRV and two 'hopper's. Horrible to paint, you have to wash them in a strong solution of Fairy liquid and water and spray them with a matt white enamal paint. I use to detail them with differnt coloured arm bands and paint the visors gold. Mixed and matched with the two astronauts and EALSEP from Airfix's LM they could be made to look good.
>
> One thing I would do ischop the helmet of some - glue the helmet to his hand and stick a 'Johnny-Airfix' head on, paint his head flesh, and black & white. Some time I would chop short lengths of sprue and stick them to the PLSS to make them look as if they were from a J mission.
>
> Bet you did'nt know there were silver ones but not from Airfix! Any ideas?
>
> Bests
>
> 'Uncle' Martin
>
>
>
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
> From: Chris@...
> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:05:49 +0000
> Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Airfix
>
>
>
>
>
> 'evening all,
>
> After a few glasses of vino I have just remembered having a box of Airfix astronauts when I was younger. Anyone else of a certain age remember them?
>
> CC.
>
>
>
>
>
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see
http://www.le.ac.uk/bulletin/spacecentrejune2001.pdf

which says the NSC Blue Streak is on loan from Liverpool. I think it is vehicle
F16.



--- In midlandspaceflightsociety@..., martin dawson
<flugluftholgate@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Spacefans,
>
> Just want to tap your collective wisdom
>
>
>
> I am preping a lecture for the York AS about the British Space Programme and
am trying to find the F numbers of the Blue Streak's that are at Speadeadam and
NSC Leicester.
>
>
>
> I found the following list on Wikipedia but it don't mention them.
>
>
>
> A second question, is the BS at Leicester the same one that was at Liverpool?
>
>
>
> Any help would be appricated
>
>
>
> Regards and bests
>
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Flight No. Second stage (Corali) Third Stage (Astris) Payload Launch date
Mission Notes
> F1 n/a n/a n/a 5 June 1964 Successful flight
> F2 n/a n/a n/a 21 October 1964 Successful flight
> F3 n/a n/a n/a 23 March 1965 Successful flight
> F4 untested untested untested 24 May 1966 Successful flight
> F5 untested untested untested 15 November 1966 Successful flight
> F6.1 failed untested untested 4 June 1967 2nd stage failed to ignite
> F6.2 failed failed failed 6 December 1967 2nd stage failed to separate
> F7 successful failed failed 29 November 1968 3rd stage failure after
separation
> F8 successful failed failed 3 July 1969 3rd stage failure after separation
> F9 successful successful failed 24 June 1970 Fairing failed to separate
> F11 successful successful failed 5 November 1970 Guidance system failed
> F12 untested untested untested n/a Delivered to French Guiana
> F13 untested untested untested n/a Delivered to Scottish Aeronautical Museum,
Edinburgh
> F14 untested untested untested n/a Delivered to Deutsches Museum, Munich
> F15 untested untested untested n/a Delivered to Euro Space Center, Redu,
Belgium
> F16 n/a n/a n/a n/a Not finally assembled
> F17 n/a n/a n/a n/a Parts only completed
> F18 n/a n/a n/a n/a Parts only completed
>
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>
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----- Original Message -----

From: martin dawson

To: midlandspaceflightsociety@...

Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:46 AM

Subject: RE: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Re: Airfix

 

Hi 'Uncle' Dave
White? News to me... Heller-Humbrol was during the '80's, they also got in to bed with a Danish or German company Ceji.
 
So, you lot don't know the silver astronauts?
 
Meccano
 
They had a space themed series and included copies of Airfix's little space men. They were awful kits, Meccano does not do aeroplanes or space. Steam engine, crane and the like, yes.
 
DO Dave do tell more on your modelling, am very interested. You have seen my models in the album pages?
 
Speaks soon
 
'Uncle' Martin
 

---

To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
From: d_evetts@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:49:38 +0000
Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Re: Airfix

 

I've just been up to rummage around in the stock pile on top of the wardrobe and found a box of Airfix astronauts.
They are from the Heller-Humbrol era, any idea what year that puts them in? White plastic. I have this strange idea the original issue was yellow, please tell me I'm imagining it.

The box does say 1:72 scale. All the other soft plastic soldiers were OO/HO railway sizes which is 1:76 to 1:87, but the Airfix soldier scales were a law unto themselves. The British paratrooper figures were beautifully crafted but about twice the size of the German infantry sold at the same time.

Silver astronauts? Never seen them. Not Preiser?

Almost 20 years ago, Andy Salmon and I were contemplating making more accurate lunar rover models in white metal to go with the figures. Never got round to it, and I don't think I have the touch any more to attempt making a master model.

Dave E

--- In midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk, martin dawson <flugluftholgate@...> wrote:
>
>
> Nope, try again....
>
>
>
> But Revell did do some kits of Gemini astronauts conducting EVA's...
>
>
>
> Any idea of the scales and the monumental cock-up Revell did with one of them in the '80's...
>
>
>
> Bests
>
>
>
> 'Uncle' Martin
>
>
>
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
> From: Chris@...
> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:07:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Airfix
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Were the silver ones revell ?
>
> CC.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: martin dawson
> To : midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:20 AM
> Subject: RE: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Airfix
>
>
>
> Do I....
>
> Made of the horrible poly-ethlyn-vinal-wats-it.
>
> They were part of Airfix's 'toy-soldier' range but to 1:72 and not 1:76 scale. They had astronauts with camera and a flag plus three vehicles a simple LRV and two 'hopper's. Horrible to paint, you have to wash them in a strong solution of Fairy liquid and water and spray them with a matt white enamal paint. I use to detail them with differnt coloured arm bands and paint the visors gold. Mixed and matched with the two astronauts and EALSEP from Airfix's LM they could be made to look good.
>
> One thing I would do ischop the helmet of some - glue the helmet to his hand and stick a 'Johnny-Airfix' head on, paint his head flesh, and black & white. Some time I would chop short lengths of sprue and stick them to the PLSS to make them look as if they were from a J mission.
>
> Bet you did'nt know there were silver ones but not from Airfix! Any ideas?
>
> Bests
>
> 'Uncle' Martin
>
>
>
> To: midlandspaceflightsociety@yahoogroups.co.uk
> From: Chris@...
> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:05:49 +0000
> Subject: [midlandspaceflightsociety] Airfix
>
>
>
>
>
> 'evening all,
>
> After a few glasses of vino I have just remembered having a box of Airfix astronauts when I was younger. Anyone else of a certain age remember them?
>
> CC.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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