on my 2005 facelift, this DOES NOT work. Back to drawing board.

--- In multiplaowners@..., "bridgeman1738" <bridgeman1738@...>
wrote:
>
> Incidentally, I did find a ruse posted on the other forum for enabling the
changer/aux to be accessed (turn on and press SRC at the same time), for a
Blaupunkt £7 aux cable to be used to take a feed from an ipod jack plug. I'm
trying this first...! All the ipod charger pins keep changing anyway so I'm not
convinced that dock plugs are the way to go any longer...
>
>
>

"there real easy to work on multis"!

Hi Rob,

You're obviously a very capable guy - I'm not sure everyone would agree
with you! You haven't tried removing the power steering pump yet, have
you?? That might change your opinion.

Thanks for your priceless info on the clutch slave - I'm going to try
one too.

Jon

________________________________

From: multiplaowners@...
[mailto:multiplaowners@...] On Behalf Of roaaul x
Sent: 09 November 2009 22:48
To: multiplaowners@...
Subject: Re: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems




had no issues with them myself master cyls are usually the last to go
its a real easy job to do
remove intake pipe  ( one across the front) and air filter box
remove battery and battery tray
you have very easy access then
all i did was remove the 2 bolts
pressed the slave arm right in so it pushes the slave piston as far as u
can
then put some mole grips on the flexi pipe to trap the fluid
change the cly and bolt it up and connect the pipe
then remove mole grips
bleed and ur done
lost a thimble of fluid and took 30 mins
there real easy to work on multis
cam belt change in under an hour , i love these motors real practical

rob


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my local one was same price (they mentioned "Girling" when I said the part
number) so figured save on postage...


--- In multiplaowners@..., roaaul x <roaaul@...> wrote:
>
> no probs
> i didnt need any fluid as i barely lost a thimble of fluid
> im not sure if there's a seperate reservoir for clutch or its tapped from
brake reservoir ?
> dot4 is fine as long as its the same dot as the stuff already in there
> did u order from shep & wilson or your local factors?
> im going to check for a seperate clutch reservoir now lol
> rob
>

Many many thanks. I've ordered one. This could be the job around which my
decision to keep the car longer term revolves. If i can get rid of the clutch
mussiness, then it could be a winner.
What DOT fluid am I meant to be using  - normal 4?

--- In multiplaowners@..., roaaul x <roaaul@...> wrote:
>
> had no issues with them myself master cyls are usually the last to go
> its a real easy job to do
> remove intake pipe  ( one across the front) and air filter box
> remove battery and battery tray
> you have very easy access then
> all i did was remove the 2 bolts
> pressed the slave arm right in so it pushes the slave piston as far as u can
> then put some mole grips on the flexi pipe to trap the fluid
> change the cly and bolt it up and connect the pipe
> then remove mole grips
> bleed and ur done
> lost a thimble of fluid and took 30 mins
> there real easy to work on multis
> cam belt change in under an hour , i love these motors real practical
>
> rob
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bridgeman1738 <bridgeman1738@...>
> To: multiplaowners@...
> Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 22:29:13
> Subject: Re: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems
>
>
>
> well, I think I might get one. My 05, at 83k (with a clutch at 60k because of
thrust bearing worn) I'm still finding left foot action a woolly old thing - a
little bit like I don't quite trust it. This presumably isnt going to be much of
a job if I buy one and give it to the garage to change over. Probably needs a
fluid change any way.
> Are the master cylinders generally ok?
>
> --- In multiplaowners@ yahoogroups. co.uk, roaaul x <roaaul@> wrote:
> >
> > hi
> > yes price is correct from my local motor factors
> > shepard & wilson 01530 836130 ian,tim or paul
> > yes they will fit all multiplas from 99 throughout
> > the new slave is almost 3 times the weight of the fiat one as there cheap
plastic jobs these are made of cast i think but
> > a much more heavy duty version of the genuine part
> > slaves are only  £30 plus vat from the the dealers or my local one
> > jcs kegworth ( real decent guys there helpful and honest )
> >
> > rob
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: bridgeman1738 <bridgeman1738@ ...>
> > To: multiplaowners@ yahoogroups. co.uk
> > Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 20:59:48
> > Subject: Re: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems
> >
> >
> > is that price really correct? where supplied from? and this one will
presumably fit all jtds irrespective of age...
> >
> > --- In multiplaowners@ yahoogroups. co.uk, roaaul x <roaaul@> wrote:
> > >
> > > does the slave cyl have a bleed nipple ?
> > > i have noticed the fiat ones don't have a bleed nipple that unscrews
> > > i have just fitted a new slave cyl today to ours but ordered a doblo/alfa
147 one as these are made of steel and have a metal bleed nipple
> > > these ones are far more substantial in build quality and duty rating
compared to the plastic fiat ones
> > > the product details are:
> > > maker : trw ( a lucas company i think )
> > > part no: pjf174
> > > cost: £24 incl vat
> > > also u could try pressure bleeding the clutch cyl that will take up any
play the slave rod encounters
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: Nick Barnicoat <coat153953@ ...>
> > > To: multiplaowners@ yahoogroups. co.uk
> > > Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 10:46:18
> > > Subject: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems
> > >
> > >
> > > I need help! We have had clutch issues with our Multipla for about 3 years
now. The clutch pedal drops on long journeys, becoming all but unusable at
times. The master and slave cylinders have been replaced and the system has been
bled, but it doesn't make any difference. does anybody have any ideas or
solutions out there?!?
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> >
>

Incidentally, I did find a ruse posted on the other forum for enabling the
changer/aux to be accessed (turn on and press SRC at the same time), for a
Blaupunkt £7 aux cable to be used to take a feed from an ipod jack plug. I'm
trying this first...! All the ipod charger pins keep changing anyway so I'm not
convinced that dock plugs are the way to go any longer...


--- In multiplaowners@..., James Reed <james.reed@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I think it's well worth buying an aftermarket unit. There is an
> autoleads adapter for the steering wheel controls which interfaces with
> any manufacturer and works well. I've got a fairly cheap Sony head unit
> with an ipod adapter, and it's much better than the stock radio. Even
> the cheaper head units now seem to support Ipods out of the box, and
> most do bluetooth as well.
>
> While you're at it, consider replacing the front door speakers. They are
> really easy to change (just pop the grille off, a few screws and out)
> and it makes the sound a great deal better!
>
> James
>

well, I think I might get one. My 05, at 83k (with a clutch at 60k because of
thrust bearing worn) I'm still finding left foot action a woolly old thing - a
little bit like I don't quite trust it. This presumably isnt going to be much of
a job if I buy one and give it to the garage to change over. Probably needs a
fluid change any way.
Are the master cylinders generally ok?

--- In multiplaowners@..., roaaul x <roaaul@...> wrote:
>
> hi
> yes price is correct from my local motor factors
> shepard & wilson 01530 836130 ian,tim or paul
> yes they will fit all multiplas from 99 throughout
> the new slave is almost 3 times the weight of the fiat one as there cheap
plastic jobs these are made of cast i think but
> a much more heavy duty version of the genuine part
> slaves are only  £30 plus vat from the the dealers or my local one
> jcs kegworth ( real decent guys there helpful and honest )
>
> rob
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bridgeman1738 <bridgeman1738@...>
> To: multiplaowners@...
> Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 20:59:48
> Subject: Re: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems
>
>
> is that price really correct? where supplied from? and this one will
presumably fit all jtds irrespective of age...
>
> --- In multiplaowners@ yahoogroups. co.uk, roaaul x <roaaul@> wrote:
> >
> > does the slave cyl have a bleed nipple ?
> > i have noticed the fiat ones don't have a bleed nipple that unscrews
> > i have just fitted a new slave cyl today to ours but ordered a doblo/alfa
147 one as these are made of steel and have a metal bleed nipple
> > these ones are far more substantial in build quality and duty rating
compared to the plastic fiat ones
> > the product details are:
> > maker : trw ( a lucas company i think )
> > part no: pjf174
> > cost: £24 incl vat
> > also u could try pressure bleeding the clutch cyl that will take up any play
the slave rod encounters
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Nick Barnicoat <coat153953@ ...>
> > To: multiplaowners@ yahoogroups. co.uk
> > Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 10:46:18
> > Subject: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems
> >
> >
> > I need help! We have had clutch issues with our Multipla for about 3 years
now. The clutch pedal drops on long journeys, becoming all but unusable at
times. The master and slave cylinders have been replaced and the system has been
bled, but it doesn't make any difference. does anybody have any ideas or
solutions out there?!?
> >
> > Nick
> >
>

 

Hi

I think it's well worth buying an aftermarket unit. There is an
autoleads adapter for the steering wheel controls which interfaces with
any manufacturer and works well. I've got a fairly cheap Sony head unit
with an ipod adapter, and it's much better than the stock radio. Even
the cheaper head units now seem to support Ipods out of the box, and
most do bluetooth as well.

While you're at it, consider replacing the front door speakers. They are
really easy to change (just pop the grille off, a few screws and out)
and it makes the sound a great deal better!

James

Hi Roger,

I reckon it's our old favourite warning that says one or more of the 4 glow
plugs has failed. Other members have had it for ages, and no big issues result.
Our old bug did it for a while yet started aok until fixed ahead of trading it
in.

Regards Glen.

---- roger238343 <rogercaulton@...> wrote:
> Hi ,
>   I hope this is only a small problem.The glow plug light  starts to flash a
few seconds after the engine has started .Then after a couple of minutes goes
off.Initially,it goes off normally once the engine has started.Then,as i say it
flashes for a while and then goes off.
>  It has recently started doing this in the damp weather conditions.
>   Can anyone shed any light?!!Cheers ..
>   Rodge.
>

Hi ,
   I hope this is only a small problem.The glow plug light  starts to flash a few
seconds after the engine has started .Then after a couple of minutes goes
off.Initially,it goes off normally once the engine has started.Then,as i say it
flashes for a while and then goes off.
  It has recently started doing this in the damp weather conditions.
   Can anyone shed any light?!!Cheers ..
   Rodge.

Hi

I think it's well worth buying an aftermarket unit. There is an
autoleads adapter for the steering wheel controls which interfaces with
any manufacturer and works well. I've got a fairly cheap Sony head unit
with an ipod adapter, and it's much better than the stock radio. Even
the cheaper head units now seem to support Ipods out of the box, and
most do bluetooth as well.

While you're at it, consider replacing the front door speakers. They are
really easy to change (just pop the grille off, a few screws and out)
and it makes the sound a great deal better!

James

is that price really correct? where supplied from? and this one will presumably
fit all jtds irrespective of age...

--- In multiplaowners@..., roaaul x <roaaul@...> wrote:
>
> does the slave cyl have a bleed nipple ?
> i have noticed the fiat ones don't have a bleed nipple that unscrews
> i have just fitted a new slave cyl today to ours but ordered a doblo/alfa 147
one as these are made of steel and have a metal bleed nipple
> these ones are far more substantial in build quality and duty rating compared
to the plastic fiat ones
> the product details are:
> maker : trw ( a lucas company i think )
> part no: pjf174
> cost: £24 incl vat
> also u could try pressure bleeding the clutch cyl that will take up any play
the slave rod encounters
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nick Barnicoat <coat153953@...>
> To: multiplaowners@...
> Sent: Mon, 9 November, 2009 10:46:18
> Subject: [Multipla owners] Ongoing Clutch Problems
>
>
> I need help! We have had clutch issues with our Multipla for about 3 years
now. The clutch pedal drops on long journeys, becoming all but unusable at
times. The master and slave cylinders have been replaced and the system has been
bled, but it doesn't make any difference. does anybody have any ideas or
solutions out there?!?
>
> Nick
>

does it entail the hydraulics being re-bled to do this?

--- In multiplaowners@..., Marc <cybergamma@...> wrote:
>
> I have a tip which will help , if you take off the slave cylinder off and
> remove the plastic pushrod , then drill tiny hole in the rounded end , then
> put small self tapping screw int he end , it will give you lots of xtra
> reach ( life)
>
> the tip was told to me by Fiat mechanic in Welling who`s wife owned a Multi
> .
>
> I have done this mod myself , works well so far  .
>
> Marc
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Nick Barnicoat <coat153953@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >   I need help! We have had clutch issues with our Multipla for about 3
> > years now. The clutch pedal drops on long journeys, becoming all but
> > unusable at times. The master and slave cylinders have been replaced and the
> > system has been bled, but it doesn't make any difference. does anybody have
> > any ideas or solutions out there?!?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi all, I have the knocking anti-roll bar complaint.  The knocking is from the
inner bushes which come pre-moulded to the bar from Fiat (why?) and hence they
want £300 + for a whole new bar.
There is a good description about replacing the bushes in the 'Tech FAQ' section
courtesy of John Jaap (thankyou), but as yet no part number for them.  I wonder
if John or anybody else has now found the part number or even just knows which
parts book the bushes were listed in, as my local motor factor can't find
anything listed at all.

1991 Multipla ELX 110 JTD

PS. My husband is only 6 feet tall but his head touches the roof in the
non-adjustable front passenger seat. He's ok driving as the electric seat goes
down lower. Has anyone else noticed this or got any tips or mods?