In the context of a dispute concerning the historic width of a heathland track -
as shown by a double dashed line on an OS 1:2500 map of 1881 :-

How much evidence, if any, can be obtained by measuring the width of the double
line on the map ?

John Andrews

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Is the date 1881 that of survey or publication? And which county is it? These
have considerable bearing on a possible answer!

Richard Oliver
________________________________
From: ordnancemaps@... [ordnancemaps@...] On Behalf
Of John Andrews [jdand@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:59 AM
To: ordnancemaps@...
Subject: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks




In the context of a dispute concerning the historic width of a heathland track -
as shown by a double dashed line on an OS 1:2500 map of 1881 :-

How much evidence, if any, can be obtained by measuring the width of the double
line on the map ?

John Andrews

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It is in NW Suffolk and is an approx. 1/2 mile section of the so-called Icknield
Way which has been obliterated where it crosses what is now a large arable
field.

The map was surveyed 1881 and published 1882. The entries in the relevant
Boundary Remarks Book are dated February 1880 - which may, of course, be
completely irrelevant !

John Andrews

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Oliver, Richard
   To: ordnancemaps@...
   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:56 AM
   Subject: RE: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks





   Is the date 1881 that of survey or publication? And which county is it? These
have considerable bearing on a possible answer!

   Richard Oliver
   ________________________________
   From: ordnancemaps@... [ordnancemaps@...] On
Behalf Of John Andrews [jdand@...]
   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:59 AM
   To: ordnancemaps@...
   Subject: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks

   In the context of a dispute concerning the historic width of a heathland track
- as shown by a double dashed line on an OS 1:2500 map of 1881 :-

   How much evidence, if any, can be obtained by measuring the width of the
double line on the map ?

   John Andrews

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This woulds be a 1:2500 drawn with a view to photo-reduction to 6-inch, so the
width would be conventionalised. Relying on it for a width to within 2-3 ft
would be 'dodgy'.

Richard Oliver
________________________________
From: ordnancemaps@... [ordnancemaps@...] On Behalf
Of John Andrews [jdand@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:09 PM
To: ordnancemaps@...
Subject: Re: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks




It is in NW Suffolk and is an approx. 1/2 mile section of the so-called Icknield
Way which has been obliterated where it crosses what is now a large arable
field.

The map was surveyed 1881 and published 1882. The entries in the relevant
Boundary Remarks Book are dated February 1880 - which may, of course, be
completely irrelevant !

John Andrews

----- Original Message -----
From: Oliver, Richard
To: ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks

Is the date 1881 that of survey or publication? And which county is it? These
have considerable bearing on a possible answer!

Richard Oliver
________________________________
From: ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
[ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>] On
Behalf Of John Andrews [jdand@...<mailto:jdand%40tiscali.co.uk>]
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:59 AM
To: ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
Subject: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks

In the context of a dispute concerning the historic width of a heathland track -
as shown by a double dashed line on an OS 1:2500 map of 1881 :-

How much evidence, if any, can be obtained by measuring the width of the double
line on the map ?

John Andrews

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Ricahrd

Many thanks. That is extremely helpful.

john Andrews

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Oliver, Richard
   To: ordnancemaps@...
   Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:52 AM
   Subject: RE: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks





   This woulds be a 1:2500 drawn with a view to photo-reduction to 6-inch, so the
width would be conventionalised. Relying on it for a width to within 2-3 ft
would be 'dodgy'.

   Richard Oliver
   ________________________________
   From: ordnancemaps@... [ordnancemaps@...] On
Behalf Of John Andrews [jdand@...]
   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:09 PM
   To: ordnancemaps@...
   Subject: Re: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks

   It is in NW Suffolk and is an approx. 1/2 mile section of the so-called
Icknield Way which has been obliterated where it crosses what is now a large
arable field.

   The map was surveyed 1881 and published 1882. The entries in the relevant
Boundary Remarks Book are dated February 1880 - which may, of course, be
completely irrelevant !

   John Andrews

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Oliver, Richard
   To: ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:56 AM
   Subject: RE: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks

   Is the date 1881 that of survey or publication? And which county is it? These
have considerable bearing on a possible answer!

   Richard Oliver
   ________________________________
   From: ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
[ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>] On
Behalf Of John Andrews [jdand@...<mailto:jdand%40tiscali.co.uk>]
   Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:59 AM
   To: ordnancemaps@...<mailto:ordnancemaps%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
   Subject: [ordnancemaps] Actual widths of tracks

   In the context of a dispute concerning the historic width of a heathland track
- as shown by a double dashed line on an OS 1:2500 map of 1881 :-

   How much evidence, if any, can be obtained by measuring the width of the
double line on the map ?

   John Andrews

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...from the Financial Times Weekend magazine.  See hear Jimmy:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/9f45f2fe-2d76-11de-9eba-00144feabdc0.html

Lez

Being a regular roamer across Mynydd Llangatwg (sans GPS) I can confirm both the
usefulness and the uselessness of an OS 25K map on this sort of terrain where
our intrepid FT pair spent their time. There is a pleasure to be derived from
the map's inadequacy; that of serendipitous discovery - features that make no
appearance on it - be they of natural origin or the product of artifice - but
which demand consideration when stumbled upon. Shakeholes and tramways are
amongst their number. I have found a geological map to be an aid to navigation
on several occasions as you can use the rock type in otherwise
difficult-to-navigate terrain to orientate yourself - provided you know your
rocks that is!

Alan Bowring
Abergavenny




________________________________
From: Lez Watson <Lez4Lynne@...>
To: ordnancemaps@...
Sent: Monday, 27 April, 2009 3:32:40 PM
Subject: [ordnancemaps] Dump your GPS. A hymn to maps...





...from the Financial Times Weekend magazine. See hear Jimmy:

http://www.ft. com/cms/s/ 2/9f45f2fe- 2d76-11de- 9eba-00144feabdc 0.html

Lez




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Sheetfinder on CCS website has now been further enhanced by Ed Fielden.
The program now lists six-inch County sheets as well as one-inch and
1:50,000 sheets for a selected location.  Ed has also included some
visual and accuracy improvements.

See :  http://www.charlesclosesociety.org/sheetfinder/sheetfinder.html

Further suggestions for possible enhancements are welcome.

John

I see that Memory-Map is now advertising early OS one-inch mapping that can be
used on their program

See -

http://www.memory-map.co.uk/historical/

Dear All

Apologies for cross posting this preliminary announcement.

Anne


*__*

*_British Cartographic Society (BCS)_*

*_Map Curators’ Group (MCG) Workshop 2009_*



The MCG (http://www.cartography.org.uk/default.asp?contentID=702) will
hold its annual workshop on* Wednesday 9 and Thursday 10 September 2009
*at the Map Library, National Library of Scotland, Causewayside
Building, Salisbury Place, Edinburgh .



The theme “*From Paper to Screen*” will focus on putting index maps and
maps onto the web.

Our scheduled speakers are:

     * Benjamin Pucknus, RCAHMS-The Aerial Reconnaissance Archives,
     * Petr Pridal, Czech Technical University, Prague,
     * Peter Levi, Royal Tropical Institute, Amsterdam, The Netherlands,
     * Bruce Gitting, Geography Department, University of Edinburgh,
     * John Davies, member of the Charles Close Society and specialist in
       Soviet-era mapping,
     * Rod Adkins, Digidata.

On Thursday 10 September, Chris Fleet (National Library of Scotland) and
Petr Pridal (Czech Technical University) will host a morning
demonstration about putting maps on the web at the NLS Map Library's
scanning facility.

A programme of technical visits will be arranged in Edinburgh for
Thursday afternoon, followed by a dinner in an Edinburgh restaurant
(extra cost to be paid in advance).


The MCG's annual business meeting will also be held during the Workshop.


If there is enough interest we propose to run a coach trip on Friday 11
September to Perth (extra cost to be paid in advance) to view proposals
for the new Scottish Royal Geographical Society library in the Fair
Maid’s House and a possible visit to Perth and Kinross Archives.


The Charles Close Society for the Study of Ordnance Survey Maps
(http://www.charlesclosesociety.org/)  will be arranging a programme of
talks for Saturday 12 September.



Final details of the programme, costs and booking forms will appear on
the British Cartographic Society website
(http://www.cartography.org.uk/default.asp?contentID=1)  soon. Please
watch for announcements on the map lists.



*All are welcome.*

You do not have to be a member of the BCS or the MCG to attend!



Ann Sutherland

Convener, BCS Map Curators' Group

ann.m.sutherland@...

29 April 2009


--
Anne Taylor
Head of Map Department, Cambridge University Library, West Road, Cambridge CB3
9DR
Tel: 01223-333041.   Fax: 01223-333160.   email: aemt2@...
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/

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It looks as though they are using the Cassini scans. (I believe Cassini scanned
the New Popular, but decided against publishing it in paper form, apart from
London.)

Two things immediately concern me:

(1) In the 1800s' (SIC) mapping there is reference to discovering lost rights of
way - questionable to say the least in view of the OS disclaimer.

(2) Threre is reference to the post-1q945 mapping deriving from a survey of
1945-8. This is at best very partiasl!

Were I not optimistic and strident, I might wonder why, as a map historian, I
***?!***!!*** bother!!!!!!!!!

Richard Oliver
________________________________
From: ordnancemaps@... [ordnancemaps@...] On Behalf
Of Bill Batchelor [bill.batchelor@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:30 PM
To: ordnancemaps@...
Subject: [ordnancemaps] Old OS maps on your PC




I see that Memory-Map is now advertising early OS one-inch mapping that can be
used on their program

See -

http://www.memory-map.co.uk/historical/





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Following a visit to Croome Park (SO 88 44)I looked at several versions of
One-Inch Sheet 144 to see how things had changed. The first revision to admit to
the existence of runways on Defford airfield was in 1966 where the edges of two
of the runways are identified by tramway symbols instead of the usual dashed
lines.
Can anyone explain this?

Not really but the site is worth following up . This is from Alan Turnbull's
'Secret Bases' site:

Until 2005, another satellite ground terminal could be found at the highly
sensitive military communications base at Defford in Worcestershire, alongside
the M5 motorway. This site once provided a home to the RAF's 1001 Signals Unit,
but more recently QinetiQ (pronounced "kinetic"). This organisation represents
the commercial sector wing of the Government's defence related research
activities and was formed in July 2001 out of the old Defence Evaluation and
Research Agency (DERA). At the same time, the Government's top secret
laboratories, retained under strict MoD control, were brought together to form
the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL) network.

QinetiQ's Defford base featured a high security enclave, which was built on top
of the deserted runways, where all the really sensitive signals intelligence
(SIGINT) work was carried out. Right up until the end of 2005, the enclave was
one of those "sensitive" sites still "airbrushed" from both 1:50000 and 1:25000
OS maps, but curiously the Government's own MAGIC interactive mapping service
always showed the full detail at 1:10000 scale.

In December 2005, Ordnance Survey revised the 1:25000 scale data on their
Get-a-map service to show the secure SIGINT area on top of the runways. But this
new openness was all too late for Defford!

Rumours had circulated in early 2005 that activities and staff numbers at
QinetiQ's Defford site had been significantly reduced to a "care and
maintenance" level. When I contacted QinetiQ's Customer Enquiries Team in June
2005, at their HQ within Cody Technology Park at the Farnborough Aerospace
Centre, they would only reply cautiously, "We can confirm that Defford is no
longer used as a QinetiQ site".

There's more here if you're interested:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan-turnbull/secret.htm

Lez

--- In ordnancemaps@..., "rjhwinterbottom" <john@...> wrote:

> the edges of two of the runways are identified by tramway symbols instead of
the usual dashed lines.

The 'tramways' are also shown on the A edition of the 1:50,000 Second series
sheet 150, 1978.  Radio telescopes were erected at the disused airfield at
Defford and could be moved up and down rail tracks. I think that this is what is
being depicted.

OS seems quite keen on using railway symbols wherever possible. There is a
rather fine depiction of the figure of eight track of the scenic railway at the
Barry Island funfair on the 1997 A edition of Explorer 151. This can still be
seen (though not very clearly) by typing 'Barry Island' into the Get-a-map box
on the OS website and enlarging to the 1:25,000 scale.

Chris H.

PS:

A little Googling will bring up the folowing extract from 'Royal Radar
Establishment, Malvern (Reports of Observatories)' in Quarterly Journal of the
Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 7, p.232:

The equipment comprises two mobile and steerable radio telescopes with parabolic
reflectors of 25 metres aperture designed to be capable of operating at high
efficiency at any wavelength from several metres down to 10 centimetres. The
radio telescopes can be moved along double sets of railway tracks placed on two
of the runways of the former Defford airfield. The tracks extend to 750 metres
from the intersection, and the baseline joining the radio telescopes can be set
along any azimuth and have any length up to the maximum separation of about 1000
metres.

See http://www.merlin.ac.uk/about/layman/merlin.html for a picture of the radio
dish and the twin rail tracks.

Query received at CCS website from keith_boughey@...
Anyone help ?

Thanks
John

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am currently writing a paper on the work of J.M.N. Colls and his early
survey of a stretch of moorland in West Yorkshire, specifically a paper
he published in the journal Archaeologia for 1846 on a prehistoric field
system he surveyed on Baildon Moor, close to Bradford: the first of its
kind anywhere in the literature. The paper was written in the form of a
letter addressed to an Edward Hailstone, a Victorian worthy of the time
who acted as Yorkshire correspondent for the journal.

My inquiry simply is this: do you have any information on J.M.N. Colls
at all? He worked for the Ordnance Survey (c. 1845-6) at a time when the
first comprehensive survey of the country was being carried out in the
wake of the 1841 Ordnance Survey Act. The only (anecdotal) information I
have which I have been unable to verify, is that he was possibly an
Ilkley (W. Yorks.) solicitor, but then I am puzzled if this is true as
to how he could combine this profession with working for the Ordnance
Survey at the same time!

Can you help at all? I would be very grateful for any information or
possible leads you could supply. If, however, you need any further
information from me, I will be happy to provide it.

your's sincerely
(Dr) Keith J. S. Boughey

Dear all

Apologies for cross posting

The next Cambridge Seminar in the History of Cartography will be held in the
Harrods Room, Emmanuel College, Cambridge, UK CB2 3AP
on Tuesday 19 May at 5.30pm.

The speaker is Brian Campbell (Queen's University, Belfast), on
'Beautiful maps and attractive fields': a surveyor's view of ancient Italy

All are welcome: please forward this email to anyone you think might be
interested in attending.

Refreshments will be served after the seminar.

Map:
http://www.cam.ac.uk/map/v4/drawmap.cgi?mp=main;xx=2075;yy=910;mt=c;ms=180

Web page (with poster for printing):
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/camsem0809.html

For further information contact:

Sarah Bendall
Fellow and Development Director
Emmanuel College
Cambridge CB2 3AP
Tel. +44-1223-330476
Fax +44-1223-762793
Email sarah.bendall@...

--
Anne Taylor
Head of Map Department, Cambridge University Library, West Road, Cambridge CB3
9DR
Tel: 01223-333041.   Fax: 01223-333160.   email: aemt2@...
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/

!!NOTE NEW VAT NUMBER: G.B. 823 8476 09!!

I have not previously heard of Mr Colls in any OS connexion. Given the lowly
status of practically all the civilians on the OS in the 1840s, it is natural to
ask what proof there is he was actually employed, as opposed to supplying
information. (For example, he could have provided advice on antiquities or
boundaries.) Unfortunately the 1840s is about the worst period for OS staff
records!

Incidentally, there is a nice project for someone in going through later 19th
and early 20th century records at The National Archives/Public Record Office at
Kew, making an idex to all known OS personnel, and anstractiong details of
service, etc.At least one person-year's worth of time, I reckon!

Richard Oliver

________________________________________
From: ordnancemaps@... [ordnancemaps@...] On Behalf
Of John Davies [John@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:49 PM
To: ordnancemaps@...
Cc: keith_boughey@...
Subject: [ordnancemaps] J.M.N. Colls

Query received at CCS website from keith_boughey@...
Anyone help ?

Thanks
John

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am currently writing a paper on the work of J.M.N. Colls and his early
survey of a stretch of moorland in West Yorkshire, specifically a paper
he published in the journal Archaeologia for 1846 on a prehistoric field
system he surveyed on Baildon Moor, close to Bradford: the first of its
kind anywhere in the literature. The paper was written in the form of a
letter addressed to an Edward Hailstone, a Victorian worthy of the time
who acted as Yorkshire correspondent for the journal.

My inquiry simply is this: do you have any information on J.M.N. Colls
at all? He worked for the Ordnance Survey (c. 1845-6) at a time when the
first comprehensive survey of the country was being carried out in the
wake of the 1841 Ordnance Survey Act. The only (anecdotal) information I
have which I have been unable to verify, is that he was possibly an
Ilkley (W. Yorks.) solicitor, but then I am puzzled if this is true as
to how he could combine this profession with working for the Ordnance
Survey at the same time!

Can you help at all? I would be very grateful for any information or
possible leads you could supply. If, however, you need any further
information from me, I will be happy to provide it.

your's sincerely
(Dr) Keith J. S. Boughey



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     http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms.html

The latest version of Sheetfinder is now available on Charles Close
Society website at
http://www.charlesclosesociety.org/sheetfinder/sheetfinder.html

This version now includes results for Fifth Edition Large Sheet Series,
which were previously omitted.  With this enhancement, all one-inch and
1:50,000 series of Britain and Ireland and six-inch county series of
Britain are now included.

Also, by kind permission of National Library of Scotland, Sheetfinder
now includes a link to enable the selected sheet to be viewed on-line.
At present this facility is available only for Scottish Popular edition,
but may be extended to others in due course.

John

Dear all

Apologies for cross posting

The next Cambridge Seminar in the History of Cartography will be held in the
Harrods Room, Emmanuel College, Cambridge, UK CB2 3AP
on Tuesday 19 May at 5.30pm.

The speaker is Brian Campbell (Queen's University, Belfast), on
'Beautiful maps and attractive fields': a surveyor's view of ancient Italy

All are welcome: please forward this email to anyone you think might be
interested in attending.

Refreshments will be served after the seminar.

Map:
http://www.cam.ac.uk/map/v4/drawmap.cgi?mp=main;xx=2075;yy=910;mt=c;ms=180

Web page (with poster for printing):
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/camsem0809.html

For further information contact:

Sarah Bendall
Fellow and Development Director
Emmanuel College
Cambridge CB2 3AP
Tel. +44-1223-330476
Fax +44-1223-762793
Email sarah.bendall@...

--
Anne Taylor
Head of Map Department, Cambridge University Library, West Road,
Cambridge CB3 9DR
Tel: 01223-333041.   Fax: 01223-333160.   email: aemt2@...
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/

!!NOTE NEW VAT NUMBER: G.B. 823 8476 09!!

Hello everyone
I'm a member of the Charles Close Society and am travelling to the CCS AGM in
Ludlow tomorrow (16 May) but have managed to lose the details of where it is
being held and the time at which it starts!

Sorry for the short notice but could anyone send me the above details please
before I set off tomorrow morning. You could do this through this group or
direct to online@....

Many thanks for your help.

Andy Barton CCS memb. 580

Andy, et al

The meeting tomorrow is at The Old School Hall, Mill Street, Ludlow, SY8 1GU.
grid ref: SO 510743

1030 Coffee

1100 Alex Kent's talk

1200 AGM

1430 Members map market opens.

Hope that helps,

Chris H

Information from the latest OS catalogue has been added to the summary lists
(v4.37) and may be found at http://www.watsonlv.addr.com/os-maps.htm .

Regards

Lez

The Cambridge Guided Busway is due to open in summer 2009

With regard to the section that has been constructed on the disused railway line
between Cambridge and St. Ives, does anyone know how it will be depicted on
ordnance survey maps? Will a new symbol be developed for guided transport
systems? It is a guided transport system but not a railway (steel wheel on steel
rail). It will need to shown differently to a road!

Existing busway projects in the UK are only short lengths:Leeds(1.25 miles),
Crawley (250 yards) and Ipswich (200yards). Where they are constructed within
the highway boundary, there is no need to show them as such. In Germany, Essen
has a four mile busway whilst in Adelaide, Australia, a 7.5 mile scheme is in
operation

Just a note to say that Ottawa, Canada's 'Transitway' is 25 years old
and now has 34 kms of bus-only roadway.

There are still vigourous debates about converting it into a rail-
based system.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=161508

There hasn't been a new Federal topo map of the area revised since
the Transitway's inception, so no new conventional signage has been
required!

Iain Taylor
Halifax, NS

On 18-May-09, at 12:58 PM, DAVID KIMBER wrote:

>
>
> The Cambridge Guided Busway is due to open in summer 2009
>
> With regard to the section that has been constructed on the disused
> railway line between Cambridge and St. Ives, does anyone know how
> it will be depicted on ordnance survey maps? Will a new symbol be
> developed for guided transport systems? It is a guided transport
> system but not a railway (steel wheel on steel rail). It will need
> to shown differently to a road!
>
> Existing busway projects in the UK are only short lengths:Leeds
> (1.25 miles), Crawley (250 yards) and Ipswich (200yards). Where
> they are constructed within the highway boundary, there is no need
> to show them as such. In Germany, Essen has a four mile busway
> whilst in Adelaide, Australia, a 7.5 mile scheme is in operation
>
>
>



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I recall that back in the 1970's when the new 'busway' system was established in
Runcorn New Town, OS chose to depict it in yellow as a minor road with '4.3m of
metalling or over' and labelled (buses only). In fact sheet 108 ('Liverpool') of
the 50K First Series shows it in this fashion. The route is now shown as a
'white road' and the bracketed label has been dropped. Explorer maps label it
'Busway'. This network is no more or less than a set of interlinking tarmacked
roads open to buses and the emergency services but not to general traffic.

Alan Bowring
Abergavenny




________________________________
From: iain taylor <mapman@...>
To: ordnancemaps@...
Sent: Monday, 18 May, 2009 6:47:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ordnancemaps] CAMBRIDGE GUIDED BUSWAY





Just a note to say that Ottawa, Canada's 'Transitway' is 25 years old
and now has 34 kms of bus-only roadway.

There are still vigourous debates about converting it into a rail-
based system.
http://forum. skyscraperpage. com/showthread. php?t=161508

There hasn't been a new Federal topo map of the area revised since
the Transitway's inception, so no new conventional signage has been
required!

Iain Taylor
Halifax, NS

On 18-May-09, at 12:58 PM, DAVID KIMBER wrote:

>
>
> The Cambridge Guided Busway is due to open in summer 2009
>
> With regard to the section that has been constructed on the disused
> railway line between Cambridge and St. Ives, does anyone know how
> it will be depicted on ordnance survey maps? Will a new symbol be
> developed for guided transport systems? It is a guided transport
> system but not a railway (steel wheel on steel rail). It will need
> to shown differently to a road!
>
> Existing busway projects in the UK are only short lengths:Leeds
> (1.25 miles), Crawley (250 yards) and Ipswich (200yards). Where
> they are constructed within the highway boundary, there is no need
> to show them as such. In Germany, Essen has a four mile busway
> whilst in Adelaide, Australia, a 7.5 mile scheme is in operation
>
>
>

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The 1-mile length of guided busway in Edinburgh was shown on the 1:25,000 map as
a normal unfenced 'white' road.  I'm slightly surprised it wasn't shown as
dual-carriageway - the guide kerbs effectively form a central divide between the
two lanes.

Edinburgh's busway is currently being replaced with a tram line on the same
alignment, so the symbol is due to change soon.  :-)

Hi all

apologies for shameless plugging, but my book Map Addict (Collins) is now out. 
Amazon listing here -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Map-Addict-Mike-Parker/dp/0007300840.  It was Book of
the Week in the Daily Mail, who described it as "a highly engaging and
thoughtful, haphazard and personal, meander around maps and map-related arcana".

The book's sub-title is 'A Tale of Obsession, Fudge and the Ordnance Survey';
the chapter on the OS is by far the largest.  After all, I've been collecting
them since I was seven...

Further plug for two readings coming up shortly: a 'literary supper' organised
by Waterstone's Abergavenny on Thurs May 28
(http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayDetailEvent.do?searchType=1&au\
thor=Mike|Parker) and a wine-and-nibbles launch at Stanfords in Bristol on Wed
June 3 (http://www.stanfords.co.uk/events/mike-parker-map-addict,168,EV.html).

If anyone knows of any other events (festivals, gatherings) or places
(bookshops, radio/TV shows, websites) where I can go to read and/or promote the
book, please don't hesitate to get in touch!

Thanks so much,

Mike Parker

Hi Mike,

I'm so pleased I bought a copy from you on Saturday.  Am about a third the way
through and enjoying it immensely.

Cheers

Lez

PS  Plug away!

Dear All

Apologies for cross posting

The outline programme for the 2009/10 Cambridge Seminars in the History
of Cartography is given below.

Details are also available at
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/camsem0910.html where a poster
for display will also be found.  Additional information will be posted
here in due course.

All seminars will be held at 5.30pm in Emmanuel
College, St Andrew's Street, Cambridge, England CB2 3AP in either the
Harrods Room or the Gardner Room.


Tuesday 24 November 2009
Dr Frances Willmoth (Jesus College, Cambridge)
… about Jonas Moore’s map of the Fens, 1658
VENUE: Harrods Room, Emmanuel College

Tuesday 23 February 2010
Laurence Worms (Ash Rare Books)
… about Seller, Pepys and the late-seventeenth-century London map trade
VENUE: Harrods Room, Emmanuel College

Tuesday 4 May 2010
Rachel Hewitt (University of Glamorgan)
… about the history of the Ordnance Survey
VENUE: Gardner Room, Emmanuel College


For any enquiries, please contact Sarah Bendall at
sarah.bendall@..., tel. 01223 330476

--
Anne Taylor
Head of Map Department, Cambridge University Library, West Road,
Cambridge CB3 9DR
Tel: 01223-333041.   Fax: 01223-333160.   email: aemt2@...
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/maps/

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