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#5913 From: Gráczi Tekla Etelka <gracziteklaetelka@...>
Date: Wed May 2, 2012 9:05 am
Subject: Re: Zoom out to see the data
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Dear all,



I would like to ask for some help in connection of "slicing" a file.

I have extracted some parts of a sound file and the TextGrid belonging to
this particular wav file. I used the same time range for the extraction of
the parts of the sound and the annotation (further settings for the sound
file: rectangular, relative width: 1.0; for both: preserve times). Now,
when I open only the sound file, I can work on that, but if I open both
together, I only get the message: "zoom out to see the data". The shortest
file is 0.65 s, the longest is above 16 s.

Can you, please, help me with some idea of what I should change in the
extracting script?



There is a tier that involves the intervals, I would like to get as
separate files.

The script as it is now:

>> form Slicing the cake

>> comment Where do you want to save the sound file?

>> text dir here

>> endform

>>

>> clearinfo

>>

>> textgrid = selected ("TextGrid")

>> sound = selected ("Sound")

>> name$ = selected$ ("Sound")

>>

>> select textgrid

>> num = Get number of tiers

>> for i to num

>>       tiername$ = Get tier name... i

>>       if tiername$ = "cut"

>>                   numt = i

>>       endif

>> endfor

>>

>> num = Get number of intervals... numt

>> for i to num

>>       select textgrid

>>       label$ = Get label of interval... numt i

>>       if label$ = ""

>>                   start = Get start point... numt i

>>                   end = Get end point... numt i

>>                   cutstart = start - 0.2

>>                   cutend = end + 0.2

>>                   select sound

>>                   Extract part... cutstart cutend rectangular 1 yes

>>                   Rename... 'name$'_'i'

>>                   select textgrid

>>                   Extract part... cutstart cutend yes

>>                   Rename... 'name$'_'i'

>>       endif

>> endfor

>>

>> select textgrid

>> plus sound

>> Remove

>>

>> select all

>> num = numberOfSelected ("Sound")

>> for i to num

>>       select all

>>       name$ = selected$ ("Sound", i)

>>       select Sound 'name$'

>>       Save as WAV file... 'dir$'\'name$'.wav

>> endfor

>> for i to num

>>       select all

>>       name$ = selected$ ("TextGrid", i)

>>       select TextGrid 'name$'

>>       Save as text file... 'dir$'\'name$'.txt

>> endfor

>>

>> printline Ready.



Thank you in advance for any help!

And thank you, Daniel, for telling me to resend the e-mail!


Best regards,

Tekla Etelka Gráczi


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#5914 From: "chengafni" <balshan.bashlan@...>
Date: Tue May 8, 2012 4:47 pm
Subject: undefined formants
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Dear Praat users,

I'm doing a research on high formants in male voice. According to the Praat
manual it is recommended to set the maximum value to 5000 Hz. However, doing
this I sometimes get undefined values for F5, and when I raise the maximum
frequency in order to get values for F5 it changes the lower formants
considerably. This of course makes it difficult for me to get comparable
results. I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to deal with this
problem.

Thanks,
Chen

#5915 From: "ajjodar" <xaudar@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 9:18 am
Subject: Voice comparison with Praat
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Dear all.

I am a new Praat's user. I need to make a voice comparison about the same text.
That is, imagine that an adult reads a text, then, a child reads the same text.
I need to compare the two voices in order to "score" the child's voice with
respect to adult's voice. The comparison's parameters which I think interest me
are the pitch and the formants and I've read about using the DTW algorithm but
I'm not sure how.
In conclusion, the idea would be to make a script which compares the two voices
and shows me a value about the distance between them. Does Praat provide any
function for comparing the voices? Is there any script already done about this?

Thanks in advance!

#5916 From: Rafael Farnese <rfarnese@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 6:09 pm
Subject: Hello...
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#5917 From: "Tony N" <abnatoci@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 7:25 pm
Subject: Selecting specific amount of time
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Hello all, first time poster,

I am wondering if it's possible to select, say, a chunk of the waveform that is
a specific length, say 25ms. It's very difficult to do this by hand, obviously,
and if there's a feature on Praat that allows you to do this it would really
help me out.

Of course, any other suggestions/workarounds to my problem are welcome, as well.

Thank you very much!

Tony Natoci
University of Michigan Ling Department '13

#5918 From: Daniel Hirst <daniel.hirst@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: Selecting specific amount of time
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On 12 May 2012, at 3:25 , Tony N wrote:

> I am wondering if it's possible to select, say, a chunk of the waveform that
is a specific length, say 25ms. It's very difficult to do this by hand,
obviously, and if there's a feature on Praat that allows you to do this it would
really help me out.

Yes that's very simple with Praat - click in the signal at the start of the
portion you want to select, then from the menu "Select" choose

>  Move end of selection by...

and give the duration you want to select (in seconds), e.g. 0.025 for 25 ms.

If you know the time value of the part you want to select, instead of clicking
in the signal you can choose

>  Move cursor to...

from the same menu "Select", and give the time value of the start point - then
do as above to select the chunk of 25 ms.

best

daniel

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#5919 From: "spectral_slice" <nicholas.dimitroff@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 3:23 am
Subject: Pausing operations in a script
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Hello. I tried looking through the various support documents and this board to
find a method to pause operations in a script.

For example, if I want to:

1. print something to the info window
2. wait three second. . . . .
3. print some more information

I tried using the stopwatch function without success, but perhaps there is a way
to call the system's time and have it wait while the initial_value reaches
initial_value+some_interval to call the next operation?

Thank you

#5920 From: "Paolo Bravi" <pa.bravi@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 6:50 am
Subject: Re: Pausing operations in a script
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> I tried looking through the various support documents and this board to find a
method to pause operations in a script.


This could be a workaround :

>1. print something to the info window
>2. wait three second. . . . .

Create Sound from formula... silence 1 0 3 10 0
Play
Remove

>3. print some more information

Best, Paolo

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#5921 From: Marcus Uneson <marcus.uneson@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 7:19 am
Subject: sendpraat fails compilation with undefined references on Ubuntu 12.04
marcus.uneson
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Hi,

If I try to compile the sendpraat source
at http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/sendpraat.c (6 September 2011)
on Ubuntu (12.04, 64 bit), according to the instructions on
http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/sendpraat.html,
I get the undefined references below.
Praat itself compiles fine on the same machine

I have libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-0 and I do find
most of the missing references mentioned in  /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/*.h
(gdk.h, gdkproperty.h, gdkdisplay.h),
but as yet, this hasn't helped.

cheers,

Marcus


cc -std=gnu99 -o sendpraat -DUNIX `pkg-config --cflags --libs
gtk+-2.0`  sendpraat.c
/tmp/ccnbf36y.o: In function `sendpraat':
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x2fc): undefined reference to `g_type_init'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x323): undefined reference to `gdk_display_open'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x38b): undefined reference to
`gdk_atom_intern_static_string'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x3b4): undefined reference to
`gdk_event_send_client_message_for_display'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x3d0): undefined reference to `gdk_display_close'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x421): undefined reference to `gdk_display_close'
/tmp/ccnbf36y.o: In function `sendpraatW':
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x771): undefined reference to `g_type_init'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x784): undefined reference to `gdk_display_open'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x7d8): undefined reference to
`gdk_atom_intern_static_string'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x801): undefined reference to
`gdk_event_send_client_message_for_display'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x81d): undefined reference to `gdk_display_close'
sendpraat.c:(.text+0x879): undefined reference to `gdk_display_close'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

#5922 From: Paul Boersma <paul.boersma@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: sendpraat fails compilation with undefined references on Ubuntu 12.04
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Op 12 mei 2012, om 09:19 heeft Marcus Uneson het volgende geschreven:
>
> > I have libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-0 and I do find
> most of the missing references mentioned in  /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/*.h
> (gdk.h, gdkproperty.h, gdkdisplay.h),
> but as yet, this hasn't helped.

it seems you're missing the development versions of libgdk and libglib.

To check, run

pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0

The result should be something like

-pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/libpng12  -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
-lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpng12
-lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0
-lrt -lglib-2.0
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Paul Boersma
University of Amsterdam
Linguistics
Spuistraat 210, room 303
1012VT Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/paul/

#5923 From: Marcus Uneson <marcus.uneson@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: sendpraat fails compilation with undefined references on Ubuntu 12.04
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I  do have libglib2.0-dev but nothing matching libgdk*-dev . The only packages
matching that glob I can find in the Ubuntu repositories are
libgdkcutter-pixbuf-dev and libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev. Installing those
made no difference.

After that installation, here is the output of

>pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0

(newlines added)

-pthread
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0
-I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/libpng12
-lgtk-x11-2.0
-lgdk-x11-2.0
-latk-1.0
-lgio-2.0
-lpangoft2-1.0
-lpangocairo-1.0
-lgdk_pixbuf-2.0
-lcairo
-lpango-1.0
-lfreetype
-lfontconfig
-lgobject-2.0
-lglib-2.0


here is your own output in the same format, for reference

-pthread
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0
-I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/libpng12
-pthread
-lgtk-x11-2.0
-lgdk-x11-2.0
-latk-1.0
-lgio-2.0
-lpangoft2-1.0
-lpangocairo-1.0
-lgdk_pixbuf-2.0
-lm
-lcairo
-lpng12
-lpango-1.0
-lfreetype
-lfontconfig
-lgobject-2.0
-lgmodule-2.0
-lgthread-2.0
-lrt
-lglib-2.0


Marcus



2012/5/12 Paul Boersma <paul.boersma@...>:
> Op 12 mei 2012, om 09:19 heeft Marcus Uneson het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> > I have libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-0 and I do find
>> most of the missing references mentioned in  /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/*.h
>> (gdk.h, gdkproperty.h, gdkdisplay.h),
>> but as yet, this hasn't helped.
>
> it seems you're missing the development versions of libgdk and libglib.
>
> To check, run
>
> pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0
>
> The result should be something like
>
> -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2
-I/usr/include/libpng12  -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0
-lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpng12
-lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0
-lrt -lglib-2.0
> _____
>
> Paul Boersma
> University of Amsterdam
> Linguistics
> Spuistraat 210, room 303
> 1012VT Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/paul/
>

#5924 From: "martrozza" <martacomp@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 5:55 pm
Subject: normative data pathological voice
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Hello!
I'm looking for normative data for pathological voice...
Can anyone help me?

Thank you,
Marta

#5925 From: Paul Boersma <paul.boersma@...>
Date: Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 am
Subject: Re: sendpraat fails compilation with undefined references on Ubuntu 12.04
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Op 12 mei 2012, om 18:00 heeft Marcus Uneson het volgende geschreven:

> > I  do have libglib2.0-dev

well, I get the exact same error message as you if I leave out the --libs
option. Don't know what is going on. Perhaps you could try to compile first with
cc (with all include files), then link explicitly with ld (with all libraries).
_____

Paul Boersma
University of Amsterdam
Linguistics
Spuistraat 210, room 303
1012VT Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/paul/

#5926 From: Rafael Farnese <rfarnese@...>
Date: Sun May 13, 2012 5:47 pm
Subject: hello!!!
rfarnese
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#5927 From: Rafael Farnese <rfarnese@...>
Date: Mon May 14, 2012 8:51 am
Subject: hi!
rfarnese
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#5928 From: "Talib" <suhail122003@...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2012 12:12 pm
Subject: Hi everybody !
suhail122003
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Best greetings and appreciations to those who make Praat available  to  the
public .I am a beginner in this group and to Praat as well,and intend to teach
myself the Praat and the Phonetics principles ,in order to study ( for my
own)the phonetics of my mother language (Arabic).Searching here and there i
didn't find a good praat user manuel in Arabic Language , so i intend to make
one,not only to give description about how to use Praat as  a program but also
to introduce the  theory of phonetics (to beginners) and the meaning of the the
phonetics terms related to this program e.g Formant,pitch,intensity ...etc. i
have  enough scientific background which may help me in this .
Please tell me which is the betst sites or manuals or handbooks which can i
translate to arabic to fulfill this project? Thanx in advance

#5929 From: "lingtech@..." <lingtech@...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2012 9:07 pm
Subject: Praat with ASIO-driven sound card
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I am about to purchase a PC to run various experiments, and Praat will be one
application used on it. The PC will have a SoundBlaster card, which will be
driven with ASIO (probably version 2.x) instead of a traditional hardware
driver.

Does anyone have direct knowledge of or experience with this type of setup? Are
there any known issues? Thanks in advance!

-lingtech

#5931 From: "v" <vahideh88@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 10:20 am
Subject: prosogram
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Dear All,

I would like to measure Pitch of music notes, How I can use praat to measure
them.

I would like to know if it possible to use Prosogram.

Thanks for your help

#5932 From: "Talib" <suhail122003@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 7:42 pm
Subject: Can anyone tell me how to explain this phonetically?
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Hi guys
as a beginner i try sometimes to play with praat, but this time i think it was
not a play .I recorded the voice of
"set" to see the waveform .On the sound editor i stopped the cursor at a part of
the consonant "s"  just a  little before the vowel ''e" then i replay the sound
from that specific point ,what i hear clearly was "tet", i repeat this with
"sit" and i got the sound of "tit" does this imply so-called "interchangebility
between "s' and "t" consonants?or what????

#5933 From: Paul Boersma <paul.boersma@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me how to explain this phonetically?
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Op 17 mei 2012, om 21:42 heeft Talib het volgende geschreven:

> > i stopped the cursor at a part of the consonant "s"  just a  little before
the vowel ''e" then i replay the sound from that specific point ,what i hear
clearly was "tet"

yes, the release burst of an alveolar [t] sounds very similar to a shortened
[s]. This is well known. In both cases, air is forcibly pushed through a narrow
opening at the tip of the tongue, and this usually leads to a jet of air that
hits the teeth, creating a loud sibilant noise with a high mean frequency that
is characteristic of the space between the tongue tip and the teeth. If you cut
away the release burst as well, the result may still sound like [det] or [tet],
because the motion of the tongue from the alveolar closure to the vowel is the
same in both cases, leading to the same spectral transition auditorily.
_____

Paul Boersma
University of Amsterdam
Linguistics
Spuistraat 210, room 303
1012VT Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/paul/

#5934 From: John K Pate <j.k.pate@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 7:51 am
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me how to explain this phonetically?
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:42:08 -0000
"Talib" <suhail122003@...> wrote:

> Hi guys
> as a beginner i try sometimes to play with praat, but this time i think it was
not a play .I recorded the voice of
> "set" to see the waveform .On the sound editor i stopped the cursor at a part
of the consonant "s"  just a  little before the vowel ''e" then i replay the
sound from that specific point ,what i hear clearly was "tet", i repeat this
with "sit" and i got the sound of "tit" does this imply so-called
"interchangebility between "s' and "t" consonants?or what????

/s/ and /t/ are pronounced with your tongue in about the same place of your
mouth. When going into a vowel, your tongue makes a similar motion, because it
is moving from the same general place to form the shape to pronounce a vowel
(this means the transitional formants are very similar). /s/ and /t/ are
distinguished by what happens *before* the transitional formants; /t/ has
silence, /s/ has a lot of frication.

When you start playing right at the transitional formants, you are basically
replacing the frication of the /s/ with the silence that happens before you
click "play." So you are hearing silence, then transitional formants associated
with an alveolar place of articulation.

Does that make sense?

--
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#5935 From: Plinio Barbosa <pabarbosa.unicampbr@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 1:26 pm
Subject: Problem printing "{"
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Dear Praat users,

I'd like to write to a text file the character "{" from SAMPA by using a
script.
The character is ok in the textgrid (either on screen and checking the file
itself), but when using printline or fileappend it appears only "_" as the
output
What can I do? Is it a problem of character coding (ANSI,, Unicode...) or
the way Praat reads "{"??

Please, help me,

Regards, Plinio

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Assoc. Prof.
Dep. of Linguistics/Instituto de Estudos da Linguagem
Univ. of Campinas, Brazil


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#5936 From: "Talib" <suhail122003@...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2012 10:00 am
Subject: Voiced or Unvoiced??
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First I w'd like to thank Paul for his reply to my previous question,second: In
Arabic language there is still a dispute about two consonants whether they are
voiced or unvoiced, written in IPA :q  named in arabic (qaf),it is uvular
plosive ,this consonant is between "k" and english " g"( like in gas).the other
is named (ta'a),reffered to in IPA as: t with a point under the
character(sometimes other symbols).It is plosive between english "t" and "d".It
is difficult to distinguish if they are voiced or voiceless by putting fingers
on Adem's Apple (as usual) because they are plosive and fast.How can we define
if they are voiced or not  by Praat?Thanx in advance

#5937 From: Will Styler <william.styler@...>
Date: Sun May 20, 2012 5:27 am
Subject: Re: Voiced or Unvoiced??
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I think what you're looking for here is the idea of "Voice Onset Time" (VOT),
the time between when the stop is released and when the voicing of the following
vowel begins.  Measuring this time, which can be positive (say, for the English
"voiceless" aspirated stop [tʰa]), around zero (for the English "voiced" stop
/d/, or, more commonly, the voiceless unaspirated [ta] around the the world), or
negative (for fully voiced stops, where voicing starts before the stop is
released).  Languages classify their stops largely based on Voice Onset Time,
and it's an excellent, more gradient empirical measure of the "voiced/voiceless"
phonological distinction.

Measuring the VOT, the timing of the start of voicing relative to the release of
the stop, is likely to yield the answers you're interested in.  This measurement
is exceptionally easy to do in Praat, as it's just a duration measurement
between two predetermined points.

There are many good resources and papers discussing the measurement and role of
Voice Onset Time in stop classification, and I suspect that a bit of googling
will yield more than enough information to help you determine the nature of your
Arabic stops in question.

WS

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University of Colorado Linguistics Department
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On May 19, 2012, at 4:00 AM, Talib wrote:

> First I w'd like to thank Paul for his reply to my previous question,second:
In Arabic language there is still a dispute about two consonants whether they
are voiced or unvoiced, written in IPA :q  named in arabic (qaf),it is uvular
plosive ,this consonant is between "k" and english " g"( like in gas).the other
is named (ta'a),reffered to in IPA as: t with a point under the
character(sometimes other symbols).It is plosive between english "t" and "d".It
is difficult to distinguish if they are voiced or voiceless by putting fingers
on Adem's Apple (as usual) because they are plosive and fast.How can we define
if they are voiced or not  by Praat?Thanx in advance
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#5938 From: Paul Boersma <paul.boersma@...>
Date: Mon May 21, 2012 11:11 am
Subject: Re: Problem printing "{"
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Op 18 mei 2012, om 15:26 heeft Plinio Barbosa het volgende geschreven:

> > The character is ok in the textgrid (either on screen and checking the file
> itself), but when using printline or fileappend it appears only "_" as the
> output

After you sent me the script, I could see where the script went wrong:

select TextGrid 'curr_tg$'
nrIntervalsSeg = Get number of intervals... 'segmentTier'
plus Sound 'curr_audio$'
Extract non-empty intervals... 'segmentTier' yes
numberOfSelectedSounds = numberOfSelected ("Sound")
for x to numberOfSelectedSounds
    sound'x' = selected ("Sound", x)
endfor
for x to numberOfSelectedSounds
    select sound'x'
    seg$ = selected$ ("Sound")
    firstcharc$ = mid$(seg$,1)
    ......(1)
endfor
......(2)
if x >= 1
    select sound1
    for x from 2 to numberOfSelectedSounds
       plus sound'x'
    endfor
endif

The segment (seg$) is computed from the name of the extracted Sound object.
Praat computes this name from the TextGrid label of the extracted interval, but
replaces any funny characters ("/", "{", "(") with underscores, because objects
must be able to be be stored in files, and these characters are not allowed in
file names on Windows.

The script should just get the label directly from the TextGrid itself. The
whole of the above can simply be replaced with:

select TextGrid 'curr_tg$'
numberOfIntervals = Get number of intervals... 'segmentTier'
for x to numberOfIntervals
    select TextGrid 'curr_tg$'
    seg$ = Get label of interval... segmentTier x
    if seg$ <> ""     ; to select only the non-empty intervals
       firstcharc$ = mid$(seg$,1)
       ......(1)
    endif
endfor
......(2)
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University of Amsterdam
Linguistics
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#5939 From: "clertonbarboza" <clertonluiz@...>
Date: Mon May 21, 2012 7:31 pm
Subject: saving multiple files (again)
clertonbarboza
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hello everybody,first time posting here, hope somebody can help

seems i have the same problemas as the dude below:


Hi

If I select several sound objects and choose "write to WAV file",
all sounds are concatenated into one large file.

I wonder if it would be a good or a bad idea to add an option (or
maybe it already exists???) to allow for each sound object to be saved
into its own file.

(My current problem is that many sound objects are created by the
"extract intervalls" method, and I don't feel like saving them one by
one.)


Best,

Christophe Pallier


Paul then proposed a short script, but i dont think it will work for me once i
do want the multiple files to be saved with their own names on the objects
window.

once more than a decade passed, maybe there is already a way to save each sound
file with its proper name. if not, besides segmenting & identifing 7000+ words,
i will have to save all the  sound files by hand...

best wishes to you all and hope someone can help

C.

#5940 From: Julian Bradfield <jcb@...>
Date: Sun May 20, 2012 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: Voiced or Unvoiced??
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On 2012-05-19, Talib <suhail122003@...> wrote:
> question,second: In Arabic language there is still a dispute about
> two consonants whether they are voiced or unvoiced, written in IPA
> :q  named in arabic (qaf),it is uvular plosive ,this consonant is
> between "k" and english " g"( like in gas).the other is named
> (ta'a),reffered to in IPA as: t with a point under the

There's a lot of work on Arabic emphatics and gutturals, including
some cross-dialectal work. I don't know it at all well, but one work I
came across recently is Alex Bellem's thesis from SOAS. Alex is now at
Salford University, and her thesis can be downloaded from her
academia.edu page (though you have to sign up to academic.edu).

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#5941 From: Holger Mitterer <holger.mitterer@...>
Date: Tue May 22, 2012 7:20 am
Subject: RE: saving multiple files (again)
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Hi all,

facing a similar problem,  I once wrote a script that
extracts all non-empty intevals from a sound+textGrid
combination and writes them to a folder.

The second part of the script contains the code for
writing the selection to separate files with their object window names.:

dir$ = "K:\sounds\recordings\"

n = numberOfSelected("Sound")
for i from 1 to n
     s'i' = selected("Sound",'i')
     s'i'$ = selected$("Sound",'i')
endfor

for i from 1 to n
     n$ = s'i'$
     select s'i'
     Write to WAV file... 'dir$''n$'.wav
endfor


for the full script, see http://www.holgermitterer.eu/HM/saveIntervals.praat

Kind regards,
Holger


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From: praat-users@... [mailto:praat-users@...] On
Behalf Of clertonbarboza
Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 21:32
To: praat-users@...
Subject: [praat-users] saving multiple files (again)



hello everybody,first time posting here, hope somebody can help

seems i have the same problemas as the dude below:

Hi

If I select several sound objects and choose "write to WAV file",
all sounds are concatenated into one large file.

I wonder if it would be a good or a bad idea to add an option (or
maybe it already exists???) to allow for each sound object to be saved
into its own file.

(My current problem is that many sound objects are created by the
"extract intervalls" method, and I don't feel like saving them one by
one.)

Best,

Christophe Pallier

Paul then proposed a short script, but i dont think it will work for me once i
do want the multiple files to be saved with their own names on the objects
window.

once more than a decade passed, maybe there is already a way to save each sound
file with its proper name. if not, besides segmenting & identifing 7000+ words,
i will have to save all the sound files by hand...

best wishes to you all and hope someone can help

C.



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#5942 From: José Joaquín Atria <jjatria@...>
Date: Tue May 22, 2012 2:04 am
Subject: Re: saving multiple files (again)
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Try this script.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucjt465/scripts/index.html#saveall

José Joaquín Atria

www.pinguinorodriguez.cl



On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:31 PM, clertonbarboza <clertonluiz@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> hello everybody,first time posting here, hope somebody can help
>
> seems i have the same problemas as the dude below:
>
> Hi
>
> If I select several sound objects and choose "write to WAV file",
> all sounds are concatenated into one large file.
>
> I wonder if it would be a good or a bad idea to add an option (or
> maybe it already exists???) to allow for each sound object to be saved
> into its own file.
>
> (My current problem is that many sound objects are created by the
> "extract intervalls" method, and I don't feel like saving them one by
> one.)
>
> Best,
>
> Christophe Pallier
>
> Paul then proposed a short script, but i dont think it will work for me
> once i do want the multiple files to be saved with their own names on the
> objects window.
>
> once more than a decade passed, maybe there is already a way to save each
> sound file with its proper name. if not, besides segmenting & identifing
> 7000+ words, i will have to save all the sound files by hand...
>
> best wishes to you all and hope someone can help
>
> C.
>
>
>


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#5943 From: "martrozza" <martacomp@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 4:37 pm
Subject: protocol voice evaluation
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Hi everybody!
I am workying on an italian protocol of evaluation of voice using praat.
I thought it could be useful to  :
1) make a perceptual GRBAS voice evaluation;
2) evaluate max phonatory time;
3) record ten samples of the vowel /a/ at a comfortable pitch and    loudness;
3) record a vocal message with :
    - name and surname;
    - number 1 to 10;
    - word /aiuole/ (because it contains all italian vowels)
    - a phrase of a famous song.
4) VHI

Can you suggest me some corrections?

With regards,
Marta

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