Why an pdf ? There are much possible options, that regular Praetorian
Units ware an khaki or dessert uniform.
When regiments be a part of an Crusade army for exampel...
--- In praetorian-IG@..., Rory Lowings <rozc19@...>
wrote:
>
> There's no reason why Praetorians can't dress in Khaki. Say they
are PDF
> regiments who have been sequestered by the PTC after their Imperial
service,
> or that they're privately equipped to deal with a specific warzone,
or just
> say it could be a regimental tradition! I figure that the Praetorian
> tradition on uniforms is just as eclectic as that of the British
army over
> the years.
> I've been working on my Plastic Praetorian Infantry. Squad one is
painted,
> and pics will be up soon when I can take them. Still, I have been
busy of
> late and will still be busy for much of the rest of this year. Still
> working, I just wish that the active members of the forum would
talk a bit
> more...
>
> 2009/2/4 ben.pilloud <ben.pilloud@...>
>
> > Well, sometimes uniforms can vary per regiment, theater, rank/
> > designation, time period, etc.
> >
> > I'm sure you could find some suitable fluff reason to back up your
> > color scheme.
> >
> > As for hobbying, I've been planning to paint my officers since
around
> > the end of summer. Still haven't done it. I did make a 'vox
> > transplant' because the unit that had it wasn't supposed to and I
had
> > a squad that needed one, also got 2/6 of my new weapons teams
glued
> > together minus a couple lasguns. I have a limited schedule, but
will
> > be trying to increase productiviy because I need 5 battles by May
1st
> > for a campaign I joined on IGMB.
> >
> > --- In praetorian-IG@..., "Scott" <killgore1217@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes I am still Alive. My progress on my praetorians is another
matter.
> > > I have begged, borrowed and appropriated quite a collection of
> > > praetorians but most of them are only primed. I know all proper
> > > Praetorians have red coats but I am waivering on painting them
khaki.
> > > The main reason is my plan to double duty the models as VSF
british on
> > > Mars.
> > >
> > > Later
> > > Scott
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Mantrae:
> 1: Bonus ut planto vita est
> 2: Civis britannicus sum
>
Hello,
I still enjoy this group although I can't model a miniature worth a bean.. but
nonetheless I do enjoy the group.
Thank you for setting the group up.
Best Regards,
Fred
New Codex and time to break out the Praetorians after more than a year on garrison duty (in my closet).
Lots of great new options in the codex and special characters. Check out Dakkadakka.com or warseer.com for a list of confirmed units, if you haven't already
My main problem is fidning time for modeling, I've only recently started
painting my officers which I've accumulated across the past year or two.
Its keeping my army from being truly table ready.
I was supposed to get in five battle reports with photos for between early
december and May 1st for a campaign I sighned up for. Still haven't done one in
that time and there's only a couple weekends left!
Oh well.
--- In praetorian-IG@..., "sauron" <mfflfred@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I still enjoy this group although I can't model a miniature worth a bean.. but
nonetheless I do enjoy the group.
> Thank you for setting the group up.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Fred
>
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The Praetorians aren't wiped out, they just aren't supported any more - not that that has ever wiped out the Squats or Chaos Dwarves. Praetoria is drinking Martinis at the moment. It will be back when the weather clears up.
With one of these on there side, how does GW explain wiping out the Praetorians? Were that the truly case, the galaxy shall be overrun by whatever killed it very shortly.
True, that's what I meant. and as news about this bad boy circulates, that come back might not be too far off.
--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Rory Lowings <rozc19@...> wrote:
From: Rory Lowings <rozc19@...> Subject: Re: [praetorian-IG] Praetorian Emperor Battle Titan To: praetorian-IG@... Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:52 AM
The Praetorians aren't wiped out, they just aren't supported any more - not that that has ever wiped out the Squats or Chaos Dwarves. Praetoria is drinking Martinis at the moment. It will be back when the weather clears up.
With one of these on there side, how does GW explain wiping out the Praetorians? Were that the truly case, the galaxy shall be overrun by whatever killed it very shortly.
Hi All
I am a big fan of the Praetorian Guard as one of my all time favourite films is
Zulu. I am having abit of trouble finding the odd figure or two. I am trying
to build a 50 man strong platoon (40 painted to date) and add a heavy weapon
detachement. I have searched ebay and have drawn a blank. Could anyone make any
suggestions on the hit list is 1x Autocannon Loader 2x Lascannons and 2x Heavy
Bolters. I have looked through the photos on the site and look forward to
posting pictures of the 122nd Praetorian Rifles.
Colonel Fredricks Acting 122nd Rifles
I believe you may find what you are looking for by following the links on this This page. I myself am planning to order the firing line from Wargames Factory as soon as I can get my hands on a credit card. Except for my mortars, some remaining detailing for the commissar, and a lack of any real base work, my 1st platoon is ready for its photo op.
Captian Belisarius, Beinirham 42nd Company of Foot
--- In praetorian-IG@..., "johnhoskin38" <johnhoskin38@...> wrote: > > Hi All > > I am a big fan of the Praetorian Guard as one of my all time favourite films is Zulu. I am having abit of trouble finding the odd figure or two. I am trying to build a 50 man strong platoon (40 painted to date) and add a heavy weapon detachement. I have searched ebay and have drawn a blank. Could anyone make any suggestions on the hit list is 1x Autocannon Loader 2x Lascannons and 2x Heavy Bolters. I have looked through the photos on the site and look forward to posting pictures of the 122nd Praetorian Rifles. > > Colonel Fredricks Acting 122nd Rifles >
The plastic British colonials convert easily to Praetorians and you can purchase bits quite inexpensively on line. Plus, the cost of these minis is less then you will spend on GW product. Once painted, unless you lift up the mini, it's difficult to tell them apart (unless you have actually seen the original Praetorians).
I really need to update my website. I've completed the Praetorian army now and all vehicles have been painted as well as all minis. Added to the army and not seen here are six baneblades, 10 vals, 9 bassies, 9 griffons, plus the 3 companies of leman russ, and 3 mech companies.
I am a big fan of the Praetorian Guard as one of my all time favourite films is Zulu. I am having abit of trouble finding the odd figure or two. I am trying to build a 50 man strong platoon (40 painted to date) and add a heavy weapon detachement. I have searched ebay and have drawn a blank. Could anyone make any suggestions on the hit list is 1x Autocannon Loader 2x Lascannons and 2x Heavy Bolters. I have looked through the photos on the site and look forward to posting pictures of the 122nd Praetorian Rifles.
Thank you sir for the information
I will be looking into those mini companies with an eye on a few mordian
conversions as I have a few left over from the Mordian Dragoons (Blue
Tunic,White hat and trousers) which are a nice accord with the Praetorian
regiment that I am compyling.
Highest regards
Colonel Fredricks 122nd Praetorian Rifles
I just got the coolest resin bits and had to share with the other Pith-Helmet
fans!
I found this guy on Work in Progress. He was billing these as Zulu War and Boer
war cavalry bits but once you saw the pictures you KNEW they were praetorians
as true Zulu war uniforms did not have an Imperial eagle on the tunic or
shoulder boards with fringe!
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=15069
I ordered 10. I got them 4 days after sending my pay pal payment. Only 1 piece
had a bubble and that was easily remedied with a dot of glue.
They fit perfectly on the horses made for the Empire Pistoliers. I did not
order any arms as I had enough spares. He does not have pith helmet heads YET
but he says many folks are using the ones from the plastic colonials. He is
workign with a sculptor to get some "lancer" arms made. Right now he has gun and
special weapon arms which when combined with Cadian legs would make stunning
Praetorian Infantry.
Also for heads, Ramshackle Games makes Pith helmets with gas masks (I own some
they are cool! And their customer service is GREAT! They had to hold my order
due to a molding back log so they sent me extra bits as way of I am sorry
offering!)
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&prod\
ucts_id=213
They also make turban heads which would make cool Bengal Lancer auxillery or
perhaps some Ghurka type troops to fight alongside the Praetorians
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&prod\
ucts_id=212
Hope this helps stir the creative juices
Well of course they were made for Praetorians, I'm the Sculptor ;)
I'm not the sculptor involved in any specific additional parts for these, though
I do have an improved version in mind to be done at some point which will be
complete models - in the short term I'm about to start sculpting Pith Helmetted
heads which are scaled to fit Heroic 28mm models... such as plastic Cadians ;)
--- In praetorian-IG@..., "Les" <ghargh6969@...> wrote:
>
> I just got the coolest resin bits and had to share with the other Pith-Helmet
fans!
>
> I found this guy on Work in Progress. He was billing these as Zulu War and
Boer war cavalry bits but once you saw the pictures you KNEW they were
praetorians as true Zulu war uniforms did not have an Imperial eagle on the
tunic or shoulder boards with fringe!
>
> http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=15069
>
> I ordered 10. I got them 4 days after sending my pay pal payment. Only 1 piece
had a bubble and that was easily remedied with a dot of glue.
>
> They fit perfectly on the horses made for the Empire Pistoliers. I did not
order any arms as I had enough spares. He does not have pith helmet heads YET
but he says many folks are using the ones from the plastic colonials. He is
workign with a sculptor to get some "lancer" arms made. Right now he has gun and
special weapon arms which when combined with Cadian legs would make stunning
Praetorian Infantry.
>
> Also for heads, Ramshackle Games makes Pith helmets with gas masks (I own some
they are cool! And their customer service is GREAT! They had to hold my order
due to a molding back log so they sent me extra bits as way of I am sorry
offering!)
>
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&prod\
ucts_id=213
>
> They also make turban heads which would make cool Bengal Lancer auxillery or
perhaps some Ghurka type troops to fight alongside the Praetorians
>
>
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&prod\
ucts_id=212
>
> Hope this helps stir the creative juices
>
Well when you get the heads done give us a heads up- I need a couple score of
them!
I had asked the guy who sold them if I could pass on his info here, so I hope I
did not break any forum rules.
I wanted people to ahve a go at them before the evil empire decided to give him
a cease and desist order ("We will NOT make any good cavalry for 40K Imp
Guard, but we do not want anyone else doing so either!")
I just LOVE cavalry and my attempts at converting other legs were less than
satisfactory, and I hate that the only choice we have is mongol hordes for IG
cavalry. I ahve some of the older fellows witht eh Boer war/Aussie looking hats,
but the horses are the first GW plastics and are doofy!
Hey Les,
Thought I'd join and stop by!
Yours,
Citizen Dave
--- In praetorian-IG@..., "Les" <ghargh6969@...> wrote:
>
> I just got the coolest resin bits and had to share with the other Pith-Helmet
fans!
>
> I found this guy on Work in Progress. He was billing these as Zulu War and
Boer war cavalry bits but once you saw the pictures you KNEW they were
praetorians as true Zulu war uniforms did not have an Imperial eagle on the
tunic or shoulder boards with fringe!
>
> http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/index.php?showtopic=15069
>
> I ordered 10. I got them 4 days after sending my pay pal payment. Only 1 piece
had a bubble and that was easily remedied with a dot of glue.
>
> They fit perfectly on the horses made for the Empire Pistoliers. I did not
order any arms as I had enough spares. He does not have pith helmet heads YET
but he says many folks are using the ones from the plastic colonials. He is
workign with a sculptor to get some "lancer" arms made. Right now he has gun and
special weapon arms which when combined with Cadian legs would make stunning
Praetorian Infantry.
>
> Also for heads, Ramshackle Games makes Pith helmets with gas masks (I own some
they are cool! And their customer service is GREAT! They had to hold my order
due to a molding back log so they sent me extra bits as way of I am sorry
offering!)
>
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&prod\
ucts_id=213
>
> They also make turban heads which would make cool Bengal Lancer auxillery or
perhaps some Ghurka type troops to fight alongside the Praetorians
>
>
http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&prod\
ucts_id=212
>
> Hope this helps stir the creative juices
>
Hi all
Thanks for the messages regarding extra troops, have managed to source the
missing 122nd Rifles. However, damn the Imperial Navy they have gone and lost a
missile launcher arm. Can anyone help?
Colonel Fredricks 122nd (acting)
I've got a few extra missile launchers and missile launcher arms, however they are Catachan arms I'm going to be away from home and the internet for then next 4 weeks.
If that won't be a problem I'm sure we could make arrangements to get what you need shipped to you when I get back.
On a more realistic note, Missile launcher crews are also armed with lasguns. If you have some extra lasgun arms simply model the crewman as if he had gone for his lasgun and sling the missile launcer on his back. He can still use the missile launcher under the same principle that he could crouch or go to ground while modeled as standing.
--- On Sat, 7/11/09, johnhoskin38 <johnhoskin38@...> wrote:
From: johnhoskin38
<johnhoskin38@...> Subject: [praetorian-IG] Wait until you see the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@... Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:18 PM
Hi all
Thanks for the messages regarding extra troops, have managed to source the missing 122nd Rifles. However, damn the Imperial Navy they have gone and lost a missile launcher arm. Can anyone help?
I have a spare cadian missile launcher so no probs there, I have a Mordian that will donate the arm and I can convert the other to be holding binoculars or his lunch box. I believe that that one of the Colonels has produced a tutorial on sculpting so will also try that. Have a good 4 weeks.
cheers
John
--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Ben Pilloud <ben.pilloud@...> wrote:
From: Ben Pilloud <ben.pilloud@...> Subject: Re: [praetorian-IG] Wait until you see the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@... Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 3:36 AM
I've got a few extra missile launchers and missile launcher arms, however they are Catachan arms I'm going to be away from home and the internet for then next 4 weeks.
If that won't be a problem I'm sure we could make arrangements to get what you need shipped to you when I get back.
On a more realistic note, Missile launcher crews are also armed with lasguns. If you have some extra lasgun arms simply model the crewman as if he had gone for his lasgun and sling the missile launcer on his back. He can still use the missile launcher under the same principle that he could crouch or go to ground while modeled as standing.
--- On Sat, 7/11/09, johnhoskin38 <johnhoskin38@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: johnhoskin38
<johnhoskin38@ yahoo.com> Subject: [praetorian- IG] Wait until you see the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@ yahoogroups. co.uk Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:18 PM
Hi all
Thanks for the messages regarding extra troops, have managed to source the missing 122nd Rifles. However, damn the Imperial Navy they have gone and lost a missile launcher arm. Can anyone help?
Speaking of white eyes, got any ideas for painting them? As epic as it would be to have an entire army blink in unison/ fight with their eyes closed, it would be a bit more real looking for at least some to have eyes open.
I've tried that toothpick method, but it wasn't quite right... I just had an Idea! I discovered during staff week that when I use a magnifying glass I can write much smaller. So I could try doing the same with painting eyes, and could use a sewing needle for a finer tip.
Got a chance to come home for the weekend. The camp has internet and wifi, but I don't have a laptop/ the urge to try borrowing one or one of the office computers. The computer in and the connection to the staff lodge need work before that will be usable as a portal to the interweb.
Anyway, First
week was a blast. Sure, the food servings were a bit small, 2/3 of the steel wool I bought is not fine enough to be set on fire with just a 9 volt battery, we bombed a few songs, and through lack of preparation didn't know the knew camp song and the OA Brotherhood ceremony didn't turn out so well; but even with all of that it was still a very awesome week. So much so that the executives who inspected us on Thursday, previously having no plans for the continuation of the camp for more than another year, were so impressed they left with plans for 3 to 5 and even more years.
Oh yeah, guess I never told you guys I work at a scout camp. I work in Scout Craft/ Scoot Craft/ The study of living and non living things and how they combust! (Although we also do lashings, cooking, fishing, orienteering, survival skills, and camping; we don't really get to burn living things exept the occassional bug or human limb.) Its a cool job, sure my wages (which
allcome from donations) are so low I'm considered a subsidised volunteer rather than a salaried employee, and I work from 6:00 am to a little before or after 11:00 PM (With the exception of Thursday when I supervise the wilderness survival night and am on the job all night, and friday until I finish filling out blue cards), with just a 24 hour break starting noon Saturday minus any time needed for clean up/ check out after that. But I'm really getting paid and free room and board to play in the greatest place on Earth (Suck it up Disenyland!), while being looked up to/ viewed as a 'postage stamp' image of the BSA by scores of scouts. All of whom payed hundreds of dollers to be there, and who, if I do my job right, will not only get their money's worth but will remember the camp, the staff, including me, and will be impacted for the better for the rest of their lives.
Well I've got more emails to read and some laundry to
do.
Ben
--- On Sun, 7/12/09, John Hoskin <johnhoskin38@...> wrote:
From: John Hoskin <johnhoskin38@...> Subject: Re: [praetorian-IG] Wait until you see the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@... Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 10:12 AM
Thanks Ben
I have a spare cadian missile launcher so no probs there, I have a Mordian that will donate the arm and I can convert the other to be holding binoculars or his lunch box. I believe that that one of the Colonels has produced a tutorial on sculpting so will also try that. Have a good 4 weeks.
cheers
John
--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Ben Pilloud <ben.pilloud@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Ben Pilloud <ben.pilloud@ yahoo..com> Subject: Re: [praetorian- IG] Wait until you see
the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@ yahoogroups. co.uk Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 3:36 AM
I've got a few extra missile launchers and missile launcher arms, however they are Catachan arms I'm going to be away from home and the internet for then next 4 weeks.
If that won't be a problem I'm sure we could make arrangements to get what you need shipped to you when I get back.
On a more realistic note, Missile launcher crews are also armed with lasguns. If you have some extra lasgun arms simply model the crewman as if he had gone for his lasgun and sling the missile launcer on his back. He can still use the missile launcher under the same principle that he could crouch or go to ground while modeled as standing.
--- On Sat,
7/11/09, johnhoskin38 <johnhoskin38@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: johnhoskin38
<johnhoskin38@ yahoo.com> Subject: [praetorian- IG] Wait until you see the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@ yahoogroups. co.uk Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 1:18 PM
Hi all
Thanks for the messages regarding extra troops, have managed to source the missing 122nd Rifles. However, damn the Imperial Navy they have gone and lost a missile launcher arm. Can anyone help?
Ben,
What camp do you work at? It's good to another praetorian commander who works at
scout!
I am at Camp Brinkley, 12 miles north of Monroe, Wa. Your phrasing of what takes
place in Scoutcraft sounds like something used at another camp near me, which I
used to work at.
Jerry "Yarnspiner"
--- In praetorian-IG@..., Ben Pilloud <ben.pilloud@...> wrote:
>
> Glad to here you've got it under control.
>
> Speaking of white eyes, got any ideas for painting them? As epic as it would
be to have an entire army blink in unison/ fight with their eyes closed, it
would be a bit more real looking for at least some to have eyes open.
>
> I've tried that toothpick method, but it wasn't quite right... I just had an
Idea! I discovered during staff week that when I use a magnifying glass I can
write much smaller. So I could try doing the same with painting eyes, and could
use a sewing needle for a finer tip.
>
> Got a chance to come home for the weekend. The camp has internet and wifi, but
I don't have a laptop/ the urge to try borrowing one or one of the office
computers. The computer in and the connection to the staff lodge need work
before that will be usable as a portal to the interweb.
>
> Anyway, First week was a blast. Sure, the food servings were a bit small, 2/3
of the steel wool I bought is not fine enough to be set on fire with just a 9
volt battery, we bombed a few songs, and through lack of preparation didn't know
the knew camp song and the OA Brotherhood ceremony didn't turn out so well; but
even with all of that it was still a very awesome week. So much so that the
executives who inspected us on Thursday, previously having no plans for the
continuation of the camp for more than another year, were so impressed they left
with plans for 3 to 5 and even more years.
>
> Oh yeah, guess I never told you guys I work at a scout camp. I work in Scout
Craft/ Scoot Craft/ The study of living and non living things and how they
combust! (Although we also do lashings, cooking, fishing, orienteering, survival
skills, and camping; we don't really get to burn living things exept the
occassional bug or human limb.) Its a cool job, sure my wages (which allcome
from donations) are so low I'm considered a subsidised volunteer rather than a
salaried employee, and I work from 6:00 am to a little before or after 11:00 PM
(With the exception of Thursday when I supervise the wilderness survival night
and am on the job all night, and friday until I finish filling out blue cards),
with just a 24 hour break starting noon Saturday minus any time needed for clean
up/ check out after that. But I'm really getting paid and free room and board to
play in the greatest place on Earth (Suck it up Disenyland!), while being looked
up to/ viewed as a
> 'postage stamp' image of the BSA by scores of scouts. All of whom payed
hundreds of dollers to be there, and who, if I do my job right, will not only
get their money's worth but will remember the camp, the staff, including me, and
will be impacted for the better for the rest of their lives.
>
> Well I've got more emails to read and some laundry to do.
>
> Ben
I used to volunteer at Cub Scout camp- Always wore my tan pith helemt so the
kids could find me at a distance. I was known as "JUngle guy" or "Jumanji guy"
It was at the camp with no shade and 103 degree temps I elarned that dunking the
hat in water really DOES work to cool you off!
Les
I've also seen Mordians being sold on ebay that were actually
Praetorians. They went for far less than is usual now for Praetorians -
still not cheap, but at least somewhat within reach of 'ordinay folks'.
It might also pay to not only look for mislabeled auctions but also for
misspelled ones. From "Impeirial Gourds" to "Prettarians", anything
seems to go ;)...
Jan
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Ref painting eyes
first of all when you are 5ft off the gaming table no one really sees the whole
blinking at the same time issue. For display models i tend to paint the eye
black first then add a white circle and then paint a very fine line of black or
dark blue. It's abit fiddly and i only do it for display pieces.
Glad all is cool
John
I'm working at Black Mountain, 3/4 of a mile from Canada, near Maple Falls, WA.
Never take a class of 17 for wilderness survival, it doesn't work. Those 5-7 survival situations usually take an entire class period to discuss. It took one and a half. So, despite devoting an entire, or maybe half, of a 50 minute period plus the 10 minute transition period to lighting the 3 fires, and in the middle of a burn ban mind you, most of the class failed to start a fire due to lack of enough starters, individual instruction, and time. But, there wasn't much I could have done beyond further encouraging the use of their free time for fire lighting.
Speaking of wilderness survival, our survival night last week was scheduled for 9:00 Thursday, when the OA campfire ends on the schedule. Well it went till 9:30. Towards the end I was getting out of regalia and I
could hear my name being called. As soon as I had my uniform back on I headed over. The area we use is dominated by a big steep hill with loose dirt. A scoutmaster was concerned about the hill being unsafe, and as I later learned one of his scouts managed to scrape his knee on the hill, and wanted us to cancel the survival night. The program director showed up and we had a brief chat with the scoutmaster that I had been running the survival night since last year, the Shelters themselves were on flat ground, and we had been using that location for a very, very long time with no serious injuries. Then as we went to survey the area, at which point I was going to show the easier/ more safe route for traveling on the hill and that the shelters were perfectly safe, the program director asked the scoutmaster if he would be satisfied but he decided to be stubborn. The survival night was canceled just for him, and defeating the purpose of this action I allowed
the scouts to retrieve gear from their shelters. For 20 minutes during my first period (which caused it to run into 2nd period and made me unable to get the student in that period caught up), and during lunch the I went to meetings with the scoutmasters, commissioner, program director, and camp director to plan and re-plan a solution. We had finally settled upon leaving it to individual scoutmasters to decide if their scouts could use the hill. Those who didn't want to (which was just the one) would be given the option to take the materials from their shelter, put them in a truck donated by one of the assistant scoutmasters, and then re-build it on the platforms in one of the sites we aren't using this year. the scoutmaster drove over, but within the 2 hours allotted for the migration, no one took the offer. Minutes before I returned to the area from the closing campfire, the scoutmaster who caused all the trouble decided that his troop needed their
sleep and wouldn't let them do it at all. Because of him, one of my camping students suffered, and a handful of people who were taking the class/ wanted to sleep out for fun couldn't because they had to leave early.
What this scout master must not have realized is that loose dirt is very comfortable; several campers not taking the class came for fun, and about 5 staff members (not including myself and my usual assistant who hasn't actually gotten the merit badge yet) came to escape the heat and glowing exit signs of the staff lodge. Many mentioned it was the best they had slept all season, one liked it better then his own bed.
Well I need to wake up tomarrow, and an extra hour and a half of sleep could do me good.
-Ben
--- On Sun, 7/19/09, yarnspiner <jnbear@...> wrote:
From: yarnspiner
<jnbear@...> Subject: [praetorian-IG] Re: Wait until you see the whites of their eyes To: praetorian-IG@... Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 7:17 PM
Ben,
What camp do you work at? It's good to another praetorian commander who works at scout!
I am at Camp Brinkley, 12 miles north of Monroe, Wa. Your phrasing of what takes place in Scoutcraft sounds like something used at another camp near me, which I used to work at.
Jerry "Yarnspiner"
--- In praetorian-IG@ yahoogroups. co.uk, Ben Pilloud <ben.pilloud@ ...> wrote:
>
> Glad to here you've got it under control.
>
> Speaking of white eyes, got any ideas for painting them? As epic as it would be to have an entire army blink in unison/ fight with their eyes closed, it would be a bit more real looking for at least some to have eyes open.
>
> I've tried that toothpick method, but it wasn't quite right... I just had an Idea! I discovered during staff week that when I use a magnifying glass I can write much smaller. So I could try doing the same with painting eyes, and could use a sewing needle for a finer tip.
>
> Got a chance to come home for the weekend. The camp has internet and wifi, but I don't have a laptop/ the urge to try borrowing one or one of the office computers. The computer in and the connection to the staff lodge need work before that will be usable as a portal to the interweb.
>
> Anyway, First week was a blast. Sure, the food servings were a bit small, 2/3 of the steel wool I bought is not fine enough to be set on fire with just a 9 volt battery, we bombed a few songs, and through lack of preparation didn't know the knew camp song and the OA Brotherhood ceremony didn't turn out so well; but even with all of that it was still a very awesome week. So much so that the executives who inspected us on Thursday, previously having no plans for the continuation of the camp for more than another year, were so impressed they left with plans for 3 to 5 and even more years.
>
> Oh yeah, guess I never told you guys I work at a scout camp. I work in Scout Craft/ Scoot Craft/ The study of living and non living things and how they combust! (Although we also do lashings, cooking, fishing, orienteering, survival skills, and camping; we don't really get to burn living things exept the occassional bug or human limb.) Its a cool job, sure my wages (which allcome from donations) are so low I'm considered a subsidised volunteer rather than a salaried employee, and I work from 6:00 am to a little before or after 11:00 PM (With the exception of Thursday when I supervise the wilderness survival night and am on the job all night, and friday until I finish filling out blue cards), with just a 24 hour break starting noon Saturday minus any time needed for clean up/ check out after that. But I'm really getting paid and free room and board to play in the greatest place on Earth (Suck it up Disenyland!) , while being looked up to/ viewed as
a
> 'postage stamp' image of the BSA by scores of scouts. All of whom payed hundreds of dollers to be there, and who, if I do my job right, will not only get their money's worth but will remember the camp, the staff, including me, and will be impacted for the better for the rest of their lives.
>
> Well I've got more emails to read and some laundry to do.
>
> Ben
The idea came to me during a discussion a while back on what foods the buggies like best with one of my buddies from Nation States who plays Tyranids. While the buggies may or may not actually eat the stuff they put into the genetic soup, they undoubtedly taste it. We determined that those plasticy drug saturated things in cans are not going to be very tasty, and would hardly be worth
the effort. The rotting version with spiky things, they like even less, I assume, as these would likely cause very nasty indigestion. The smaller, less plasticy and less drug saturated version, offer a range of flavor from those ones with the breathing masks to the muscly ones that live in trees , and while not exceedingly tasty, there is always plenty to go around. For some reason or another, Tyranids prefer those smelly, greasy, green skinned things. My theory of an alternative food source was inspired by President George W. Bush who, in an address on Jib Jab about his decision to spend $50 billion to fight zombies, mentioned that we should give zombies "...Grade A American Beef, its good for 'em, they'd like it..." This seemed fairly sound logic, and the possible use of a similar strategy against the 'nids came to me shortly. This possibility was confirmed by the same nid player, who stated the buggies certainly like the food I came up with
even better than orks, when they can get it. Without further ado, Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you: The Big Mac. [IMG]http://www.warsound.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/19.gif[/IMG]
Most of the foes faced by the Tyranids, while they may not be as steadfast as the forces of the Imperium, will fight back and resist being eaten, with the possible exception of the Tau when they get into close combat, hehe. If the buggies had an abundance of some even tastier source, that didn't have the ability to fight back, wouldn't they try to use it more when gathering stuff for their genetic soup? With that being said, I feel it is safe to assume that the Tyranids would prefer large quantities of Big Macs to a horde of Orks. The Big Mac is a very tasty option indeed, and it doesn't fight back at all. While the eating habits of the Tyranids, and their whole 'genetic
recycling process', will greatly boost the 'side effects' of eating large quantities of big macs, Tyranids aren't exactly the type interested in nutrition facts as long as it [i]looks[/i] organic and would more likely just eat the tape than watch "Titan Size Me." The sugar content of Big Macs, in addition to its contribution to the flavor causes it to become addicting, and those who eat one, buggies included, will very likely go for more. Also, if anything, other than the wondrous Twinkie, could possibly come close to making a 'nid get fat, the Big Mac is it. So, with flavor, ease of obtainment, addiction, the need to gain some weight, (I mean, Tyranids all appear to be skin and bones but all they do is eat, A chubby buggie or even one with just a few 'extra pounds' could be considered a 'buggie of means' or just be really good at its job, and possibly attractive with the ladies but generally a rare and very good thing status wise) the Big Mac is
clearly the Great Hunger's #1 choice when it comes to food. (I realize the buggies use a hive mind and are all 1 big creature, and some of my argument would require them to have individual thoughts, but it might still work...)
So we've given the Buggies an alternative food source, where's the catch? What's in it for us?
Well, one advantage for non-nids will be: with the additional source of organic stuff, the buggies would have a slightly decreased demand for the traditional sources (that's us).
The main function however are the effects of introducing the Big Mac to the buggies' 'genetic stew.' As we know, new buggies are produced from this stew, and naturally they retain qualities of whatever was recycled in that batch. Thus, the buggies produced by these batches will retain qualities of the Big Mac, namely: high fat content, high sugar content, messiness, greasiness, and tastiness. Being messy and greasy will increase ease in
tracking Big Mac Buggies, and fat buggies will present bigger and slower targets. These Buggies will also taste and be addicting like the Big Macs.
Now we know that convincing the buggies to form a line...
the big ones could use the drive through, and the smaller ones could be served from an armored version of one of those teller windows at the theater, and they'd be lining up like, out of town cause there'd be thousands of em, They will probably get impatient and try to fight to the front [IMG]http://www.warsound.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/16.gif[/IMG]
...while an ideal scenario for our purpose, will never happen, they'd just storm the facility and eat everything inside. Instead, missile launchers, mortars, artillery pieces, and aircraft could be used to distribute the Big Macs more quickly and from a relatively safer distance. While the Big Macs
are raining down on the buggies, many will be distracted by this free food falling from the sky and some may go into a frenzy to get their fill. (A full Tyranid, now that's hard to picture.) There is a good chance that during this chaos buggies may end up biting each other, out of impatience, jealousy, or by just accident and will likely get bitten back. The buggies will be injuring each other, and whats more, if the Hive Mind, like anyone, wants to play with its new toys as soon as possible, there is a chance Big Mac Buggies will be present during this chaos at some point. There is a good chance that some of them will be included in those bitten into, and when one is very hungry, as Tyranids are, and one figure's out that one's buddy tastes just like the sandwiches raining from the sky, and is bigger, one will likely skip the sandwiches and consume one's buddy before anyone else can. But when you all have the same thoughts, secrets don't stay secret at
all, and knowledge that buggies can and are being produced with the same flavor as Big Macs will spread throughout the hive instantaneously.
The first few series of Big Mac Buggies will fight back and some semi-major clashes between Tyranids could occur. Undoubtedly their ability to fight back will quickly become annoying and the Big Mac Buggies design would be altered to make them easy snacks. These Big Mac Buggies, made possible by an endless stream of Big Macs, would be the first known effort by Tyranids to use their genetic soup for the sake of having a tastier snack. Hey, if you have billions of tongues and a large portion of them are stuck with drug saturated, rotting, and small stuff, a few 'shots' of big mac would make it a bit more pleasurable and be well worth the effort. The Tyranids would be essentially recycling themselves to get more satisfaction from their continuous meal, this would further decrease the reliance on
other races as food, although it would greatly increase demand for big macs to the point that several forge worlds may need to be devoted to them to keep the buggies supplied. The Tyranids as a whole will have more infighting, be very distract-able, and become noticeably weaker, all things which will make them suffer because as they are continually fought by other races.
Originally, the main problem that arose with implementing Operation: Big Macs for Buggies was the lack of possibility for McDonlds to exist in the 41st millennium with the eminent founding of The Emperor's Own Most Holy Fast Food Joint in conjunction with everything else that became his own and most holy at the founding of the Imperium. McDonalds and any other burger joint would have likely been purged in some crusade, and any scattered remnants would to be very well hidden to avoid detection by the Inquisituion. For competing with the Emperor is most defiantly heresy. This
would make the mass production of Big Macs impossible, especially on the scale needed to effectively serve 'The Great Hunger'. However, another common happening is for the Imperium to claim things to be of its creation that in reality precede it. This seems a more likely case in this incident, as supported by this photo:
The Emperor's Own Most Holy Fast Food Joint is none other than McImperium! This means that McDonalds managed to survive the Anarchy well enough that The Imperium found it of such quality that it merited claiming it as theirs. This likely took the form of throwing in some Aquilas, inscriptions, and heraldry, even turning Ronald with his most holy clown suit and red way crown of righteousness, into the Fast Food Cult's version of the Emperor, much like Omnissiah to the Machine Cult. Apart from that and
perhaps pumping more chemicals into the products, and grox instead of beef in some cases or as an option, little would change. This allows for the possibility for the Big Mac to not only remain in existence, but in large enough quantities to supply the Imperium.
Another major problem I discovered while trying to figure out how a loyal officer of the Imperium might go about agreeing with, using, or spreading this plan without disgracing the Emperor's Most Holy Big Mac. Saying that a food product produced by the Emperor was so unhealthy it could wipe out the Tyranids would be a sure way to get yourself shot. The solution I came up for a response by an Emperor-botherer, like a Praetorian, to one who would have little interest in the God-Emperor stuff , like a Catachan. who has given my lecture/ suggests that The Big Mac could wipe out the tyranids, other than shouting blasphemy and drawing a weapon, is as follows:
"...and so, that is why the
Big Mac would be the ultimate weapon for eliminating the Tyranids. See, I told you I've got somthing going on in here." Belisarius points to is big head. "No Captain, I'm now quite convinced that you think with your stomach." "What's wrong with a little gut instinct? Mine is telling me to stick to Joe's wild grox burger's and stay away from that mystery meat they serve." "Careful, while we may not be privleged to know what they're truly made of, those hambergers are the sacred fruit of the God-Emperor's own, most holy fast food chain, discracing them is surely blasphemy. Although, I think I will have to agree with you." "I'm sorry, could you repeat that, I'm not sure I heard you over the retro burners." "I said You're right Captian, those blessed victules were clerly not intended for consumption by ordinary humans, but by the only Emperor's finest, namley: the Adaptas Astrates, who's superior digestive system would easily prevail against
them. It is perhapse another of the scores of fatal clerical errors made by an overworked individual in those dimly lit halls of the Administratum that allowed for even the lowliest of hive world slums to partake in such a holy meal. Surley, if they are, as we have concluded, too holy for the consumption of the like of us, how much more unsuitable would it be for the Great Devourer to feast on it? You most certianly are correct that it would likley be tempted to do so, and not being in the sight of the God-Emperor their race would be doomed to face his awesome wrath."
The only problems now remaining are: Coming up with a reason to intentionally give big macs to the Nids, and the fact that this seems to be an easy solution, the Imperium never takes the easy way out. They prefer the near impossible.
Of course Big Mac are the first step, those sugar coated french fries with extra salt could be sprayed from fire hoses into hordes of Tyranids,
as could mountain dew, and of course, the nuke of junk food, deep fried Twinkies smothered in powdered sugar, topped with whipped cream, hot fudge, and sprinkles would be very tasty and even more lethal than than the big macs. Of course, all of this would still be accompanied by the conventional weaponry, we're not gonna feed the buggies for free.
That's right, folks the secret to defeating the Nids is the Stereotypical American Diet.
The idea came to me during a discussion a while back on what foods the buggies like best with one of my buddies from Nation States who plays Tyranids. While the buggies may or may not actually eat the stuff they put into the genetic soup, they undoubtedly taste it. We determined that those plasticy drug saturated things in cans are not going to be very tasty, and would hardly be worth
the effort. The rotting version with spiky things, they like even less, I assume, as these would likely cause very nasty indigestion. The smaller, less plasticy and less drug saturated version, offer a range of flavor from those ones with the breathing masks to the muscly ones that live in trees , and while not exceedingly tasty, there is always plenty to go around. For some reason or another, Tyranids prefer those smelly, greasy, green skinned things. My theory of an alternative food source was inspired by President George W. Bush who, in an address on Jib Jab about his decision to spend $50 billion to fight zombies, mentioned that we should give zombies "...Grade A American Beef, its good for 'em, they'd like it..." This seemed fairly sound logic, and the possible use of a similar strategy against the 'nids came to me shortly. This possibility was confirmed by the same nid player, who stated the buggies certainly like the food I came up with
even better than orks, when they can get it. Without further ado, Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you: The Big Mac. [IMG]http://www.warsound.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/19.gif[/IMG]
Most of the foes faced by the Tyranids, while they may not be as steadfast as the forces of the Imperium, will fight back and resist being eaten, with the possible exception of the Tau when they get into close combat, hehe. If the buggies had an abundance of some even tastier source, that didn't have the ability to fight back, wouldn't they try to use it more when gathering stuff for their genetic soup? With that being said, I feel it is safe to assume that the Tyranids would prefer large quantities of Big Macs to a horde of Orks. The Big Mac is a very tasty option indeed, and it doesn't fight back at all. While the eating habits of the Tyranids, and their whole 'genetic
recycling process', will greatly boost the 'side effects' of eating large quantities of big macs, Tyranids aren't exactly the type interested in nutrition facts as long as it [i]looks[/i] organic and would more likely just eat the tape than watch "Titan Size Me." The sugar content of Big Macs, in addition to its contribution to the flavor causes it to become addicting, and those who eat one, buggies included, will very likely go for more. Also, if anything, other than the wondrous Twinkie, could possibly come close to making a 'nid get fat, the Big Mac is it. So, with flavor, ease of obtainment, addiction, the need to gain some weight, (I mean, Tyranids all appear to be skin and bones but all they do is eat, A chubby buggie or even one with just a few 'extra pounds' could be considered a 'buggie of means' or just be really good at its job, and possibly attractive with the ladies but generally a rare and very good thing status wise) the Big Mac is
clearly the Great Hunger's #1 choice when it comes to food. (I realize the buggies use a hive mind and are all 1 big creature, and some of my argument would require them to have individual thoughts, but it might still work...)
So we've given the Buggies an alternative food source, where's the catch? What's in it for us?
Well, one advantage for non-nids will be: with the additional source of organic stuff, the buggies would have a slightly decreased demand for the traditional sources (that's us).
The main function however are the effects of introducing the Big Mac to the buggies' 'genetic stew.' As we know, new buggies are produced from this stew, and naturally they retain qualities of whatever was recycled in that batch. Thus, the buggies produced by these batches will retain qualities of the Big Mac, namely: high fat content, high sugar content, messiness, greasiness, and tastiness. Being messy and greasy will increase ease in
tracking Big Mac Buggies, and fat buggies will present bigger and slower targets. These Buggies will also taste and be addicting like the Big Macs.
Now we know that convincing the buggies to form a line...
the big ones could use the drive through, and the smaller ones could be served from an armored version of one of those teller windows at the theater, and they'd be lining up like, out of town cause there'd be thousands of em, They will probably get impatient and try to fight to the front [IMG]http://www.warsound.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/16.gif[/IMG]
...while an ideal scenario for our purpose, will never happen, they'd just storm the facility and eat everything inside. Instead, missile launchers, mortars, artillery pieces, and aircraft could be used to distribute the Big Macs more quickly and from a relatively safer distance. While the Big Macs
are raining down on the buggies, many will be distracted by this free food falling from the sky and some may go into a frenzy to get their fill. (A full Tyranid, now that's hard to picture.) There is a good chance that during this chaos buggies may end up biting each other, out of impatience, jealousy, or by just accident and will likely get bitten back. The buggies will be injuring each other, and whats more, if the Hive Mind, like anyone, wants to play with its new toys as soon as possible, there is a chance Big Mac Buggies will be present during this chaos at some point. There is a good chance that some of them will be included in those bitten into, and when one is very hungry, as Tyranids are, and one figure's out that one's buddy tastes just like the sandwiches raining from the sky, and is bigger, one will likely skip the sandwiches and consume one's buddy before anyone else can. But when you all have the same thoughts, secrets don't stay secret at
all, and knowledge that buggies can and are being produced with the same flavor as Big Macs will spread throughout the hive instantaneously.
The first few series of Big Mac Buggies will fight back and some semi-major clashes between Tyranids could occur. Undoubtedly their ability to fight back will quickly become annoying and the Big Mac Buggies design would be altered to make them easy snacks. These Big Mac Buggies, made possible by an endless stream of Big Macs, would be the first known effort by Tyranids to use their genetic soup for the sake of having a tastier snack. Hey, if you have billions of tongues and a large portion of them are stuck with drug saturated, rotting, and small stuff, a few 'shots' of big mac would make it a bit more pleasurable and be well worth the effort. The Tyranids would be essentially recycling themselves to get more satisfaction from their continuous meal, this would further decrease the reliance on
other races as food, although it would greatly increase demand for big macs to the point that several forge worlds may need to be devoted to them to keep the buggies supplied. The Tyranids as a whole will have more infighting, be very distract-able, and become noticeably weaker, all things which will make them suffer because as they are continually fought by other races.
Originally, the main problem that arose with implementing Operation: Big Macs for Buggies was the lack of possibility for McDonlds to exist in the 41st millennium with the eminent founding of The Emperor's Own Most Holy Fast Food Joint in conjunction with everything else that became his own and most holy at the founding of the Imperium. McDonalds and any other burger joint would have likely been purged in some crusade, and any scattered remnants would to be very well hidden to avoid detection by the Inquisituion. For competing with the Emperor is most defiantly heresy. This
would make the mass production of Big Macs impossible, especially on the scale needed to effectively serve 'The Great Hunger'. However, another common happening is for the Imperium to claim things to be of its creation that in reality precede it. This seems a more likely case in this incident, as supported by this photo:
The Emperor's Own Most Holy Fast Food Joint is none other than McImperium! This means that McDonalds managed to survive the Anarchy well enough that The Imperium found it of such quality that it merited claiming it as theirs. This likely took the form of throwing in some Aquilas, inscriptions, and heraldry, even turning Ronald with his most holy clown suit and red way crown of righteousness, into the Fast Food Cult's version of the Emperor, much like Omnissiah to the Machine Cult. Apart from that and
perhaps pumping more chemicals into the products, and grox instead of beef in some cases or as an option, little would change. This allows for the possibility for the Big Mac to not only remain in existence, but in large enough quantities to supply the Imperium.
Another major problem I discovered while trying to figure out how a loyal officer of the Imperium might go about agreeing with, using, or spreading this plan without disgracing the Emperor's Most Holy Big Mac. Saying that a food product produced by the Emperor was so unhealthy it could wipe out the Tyranids would be a sure way to get yourself shot. The solution I came up for a response by an Emperor-botherer, like a Praetorian, to one who would have little interest in the God-Emperor stuff , like a Catachan. who has given my lecture/ suggests that The Big Mac could wipe out the tyranids, other than shouting blasphemy and drawing a weapon, is as follows:
"...and so, that is why the
Big Mac would be the ultimate weapon for eliminating the Tyranids. See, I told you I've got somthing going on in here." Belisarius points to is big head. "No Captain, I'm now quite convinced that you think with your stomach."
"What's wrong with a little gut instinct? Mine is telling me to stick to Joe's wild grox burger's and stay away from that mystery meat they serve." "Careful, while we may not be privleged to know what they're truly made of, those hambergers are the sacred fruit of the God-Emperor's own, most holy fast food chain, discracing them is surely blasphemy. Although, I think I will have to agree with you."
"I'm sorry, could you repeat that, I'm not sure I heard you over the retro burners." "I said You're right Captian, those blessed victules were clerly not intended for consumption by ordinary humans, but by the only Emperor's finest, namley: the Adaptas Astrates, who's superior digestive system would easily prevail against
them. It is perhapse another of the scores of fatal clerical errors made by an overworked individual in those dimly lit halls of the Administratum that allowed for even the lowliest of hive world slums to partake in such a holy meal. Surley, if they are, as we have concluded, too holy for the consumption of the like of us, how much more unsuitable would it be for the Great Devourer to feast on it? You most certianly are correct that it would likley be tempted to do so, and not being in the sight of the God-Emperor their race would be doomed to face his awesome wrath."
The only problems now remaining are: Coming up with a reason to intentionally give big macs to the Nids, and the fact that this seems to be an easy solution, the Imperium never takes the easy way out. They prefer the near impossible.
Of course Big Mac are the first step, those sugar coated french fries with extra salt could be sprayed from fire hoses into hordes of Tyranids,
as could mountain dew, and of course, the nuke of junk food, deep fried Twinkies smothered in powdered sugar, topped with whipped cream, hot fudge, and sprinkles would be very tasty and even more lethal than than the big macs. Of course, all of this would still be accompanied by the conventional weaponry, we're not gonna feed the buggies for free.
That's right, folks the secret to defeating the Nids is the Stereotypical American Diet.
Well with 2117 words thrown into it, I figured the Ork's BS Law of Probabilty would make it correct. You are yet more proof that it works. Thank you.
Now one person responded to this with the observation that the Imperium already uses a similar tactic with guardsmen. Considering the factors which could lead to this conclusion I made a realisation. If Lasguns were made from organic materials the 'nids would be screwed.
--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Rory Lowings <rozc19@...> wrote:
From: Rory Lowings <rozc19@...> Subject: Re: [praetorian-IG] The Ultimate Weapon for Defeating the Tyranids To: praetorian-IG@... Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009,
2:44 AM
I'm all for feeding Ronald McDonald to the Great Devourer.
The idea came to me during a discussion a while back on what foods the buggies like best with one of my buddies from Nation States who plays Tyranids. While the buggies may or may not actually eat the stuff they put into the genetic soup, they undoubtedly taste it. We determined that those plasticy drug saturated things in cans are not going to be very tasty, and would hardly be worth
the effort. The rotting version with spiky things, they like even less, I assume, as these would likely cause very nasty indigestion. The smaller, less plasticy and less drug saturated version, offer a range of flavor from those ones with the breathing masks to the muscly ones that live in trees , and while not exceedingly tasty, there is always plenty to go around. For some reason or another, Tyranids prefer those smelly, greasy, green skinned things. My theory of an alternative food source was inspired by President George W. Bush who, in an address on Jib Jab about his decision to spend $50 billion to fight zombies, mentioned that we should give zombies "...Grade A American Beef, its good for 'em, they'd like it..." This seemed fairly sound logic, and the possible use of a similar strategy against the 'nids came to me shortly. This possibility was confirmed by the same nid player, who stated the buggies certainly like the food I came up with
even better than orks, when they can get it. Without further ado, Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you: The Big Mac. [IMG]http://www.warsound .com/modules/ Forums/images/ smiles/19. gif[/IMG]
Most of the foes faced by the Tyranids, while they may not be as steadfast as the forces of the Imperium, will fight back and resist being eaten, with the possible exception of the Tau when they get into close combat, hehe. If the buggies had an abundance of some even tastier source, that didn't have the ability to fight back, wouldn't they try to use it more when gathering stuff for their genetic soup? With that being said, I feel it is safe to assume that the Tyranids would prefer large quantities of Big Macs to a horde of Orks. The Big Mac is a very tasty option indeed, and it doesn't fight back at all. While the eating habits of the Tyranids, and their whole 'genetic
recycling process', will greatly boost the 'side effects' of eating large quantities of big macs, Tyranids aren't exactly the type interested in nutrition facts as long as it [i]looks[/i] organic and would more likely just eat the tape than watch "Titan Size Me." The sugar content of Big Macs, in addition to its contribution to the flavor causes it to become addicting, and those who eat one, buggies included, will very likely go for more. Also, if anything, other than the wondrous Twinkie, could possibly come close to making a 'nid get fat, the Big Mac is it. So, with flavor, ease of obtainment, addiction, the need to gain some weight, (I mean, Tyranids all appear to be skin and bones but all they do is eat, A chubby buggie or even one with just a few 'extra pounds' could be considered a 'buggie of means' or just be really good at its job, and possibly attractive with the ladies but generally a rare and very good thing status wise) the Big Mac is
clearly the Great Hunger's #1 choice when it comes to food. (I realize the buggies use a hive mind and are all 1 big creature, and some of my argument would require them to have individual thoughts, but it might still work...)
So we've given the Buggies an alternative food source, where's the catch? What's in it for us?
Well, one advantage for non-nids will be: with the additional source of organic stuff, the buggies would have a slightly decreased demand for the traditional sources (that's us).
The main function however are the effects of introducing the Big Mac to the buggies' 'genetic stew.' As we know, new buggies are produced from this stew, and naturally they retain qualities of whatever was recycled in that batch. Thus, the buggies produced by these batches will retain qualities of the Big Mac, namely: high fat content, high sugar content, messiness, greasiness, and tastiness. Being messy and greasy will increase ease in
tracking Big Mac Buggies, and fat buggies will present bigger and slower targets. These Buggies will also taste and be addicting like the Big Macs.
Now we know that convincing the buggies to form a line...
the big ones could use the drive through, and the smaller ones could be served from an armored version of one of those teller windows at the theater, and they'd be lining up like, out of town cause there'd be thousands of em, They will probably get impatient and try to fight to the front [IMG]http://www.warsound .com/modules/ Forums/images/ smiles/16. gif[/IMG]
...while an ideal scenario for our purpose, will never happen, they'd just storm the facility and eat everything inside. Instead, missile launchers, mortars, artillery pieces, and aircraft could be used to distribute the Big Macs more quickly and from a relatively safer distance. While the Big Macs
are raining down on the buggies, many will be distracted by this free food falling from the sky and some may go into a frenzy to get their fill. (A full Tyranid, now that's hard to picture.) There is a good chance that during this chaos buggies may end up biting each other, out of impatience, jealousy, or by just accident and will likely get bitten back. The buggies will be injuring each other, and whats more, if the Hive Mind, like anyone, wants to play with its new toys as soon as possible, there is a chance Big Mac Buggies will be present during this chaos at some point. There is a good chance that some of them will be included in those bitten into, and when one is very hungry, as Tyranids are, and one figure's out that one's buddy tastes just like the sandwiches raining from the sky, and is bigger, one will likely skip the sandwiches and consume one's buddy before anyone else can. But when you all have the same thoughts, secrets don't stay secret at
all, and knowledge that buggies can and are being produced with the same flavor as Big Macs will spread throughout the hive instantaneously.
The first few series of Big Mac Buggies will fight back and some semi-major clashes between Tyranids could occur. Undoubtedly their ability to fight back will quickly become annoying and the Big Mac Buggies design would be altered to make them easy snacks. These Big Mac Buggies, made possible by an endless stream of Big Macs, would be the first known effort by Tyranids to use their genetic soup for the sake of having a tastier snack. Hey, if you have billions of tongues and a large portion of them are stuck with drug saturated, rotting, and small stuff, a few 'shots' of big mac would make it a bit more pleasurable and be well worth the effort. The Tyranids would be essentially recycling themselves to get more satisfaction from their continuous meal, this would further decrease the reliance on
other races as food, although it would greatly increase demand for big macs to the point that several forge worlds may need to be devoted to them to keep the buggies supplied. The Tyranids as a whole will have more infighting, be very distract-able, and become noticeably weaker, all things which will make them suffer because as they are continually fought by other races.
Originally, the main problem that arose with implementing Operation: Big Macs for Buggies was the lack of possibility for McDonlds to exist in the 41st millennium with the eminent founding of The Emperor's Own Most Holy Fast Food Joint in conjunction with everything else that became his own and most holy at the founding of the Imperium. McDonalds and any other burger joint would have likely been purged in some crusade, and any scattered remnants would to be very well hidden to avoid detection by the Inquisituion. For competing with the Emperor is most defiantly heresy. This
would make the mass production of Big Macs impossible, especially on the scale needed to effectively serve 'The Great Hunger'. However, another common happening is for the Imperium to claim things to be of its creation that in reality precede it. This seems a more likely case in this incident, as supported by this photo:
The Emperor's Own Most Holy Fast Food Joint is none other than McImperium! This means that McDonalds managed to survive the Anarchy well enough that The Imperium found it of such quality that it merited claiming it as theirs. This likely took the form of throwing in some Aquilas, inscriptions, and heraldry, even turning Ronald with his most holy clown suit and red way crown of righteousness, into the Fast Food Cult's version of the Emperor, much like Omnissiah to the Machine Cult. Apart from that and
perhaps pumping more chemicals into the products, and grox instead of beef in some cases or as an option, little would change. This allows for the possibility for the Big Mac to not only remain in existence, but in large enough quantities to supply the Imperium.
Another major problem I discovered while trying to figure out how a loyal officer of the Imperium might go about agreeing with, using, or spreading this plan without disgracing the Emperor's Most Holy Big Mac. Saying that a food product produced by the Emperor was so unhealthy it could wipe out the Tyranids would be a sure way to get yourself shot. The solution I came up for a response by an Emperor-botherer, like a Praetorian, to one who would have little interest in the God-Emperor stuff , like a Catachan. who has given my lecture/ suggests that The Big Mac could wipe out the tyranids, other than shouting blasphemy and drawing a weapon, is as follows:
"...and so, that is why the
Big Mac would be the ultimate weapon for eliminating the Tyranids. See, I told you I've got somthing going on in here." Belisarius points to is big head. "No Captain, I'm now quite convinced that you think with your stomach."
"What's wrong with a little gut instinct? Mine is telling me to stick to Joe's wild grox burger's and stay away from that mystery meat they serve." "Careful, while we may not be privleged to know what they're truly made of, those hambergers are the sacred fruit of the God-Emperor's own, most holy fast food chain, discracing them is surely blasphemy. Although, I think I will have to agree with you."
"I'm sorry, could you repeat that, I'm not sure I heard you over the retro burners." "I said You're right Captian, those blessed victules were clerly not intended for consumption by ordinary humans, but by the only Emperor's finest, namley: the Adaptas Astrates, who's superior digestive system would easily prevail against
them. It is perhapse another of the scores of fatal clerical errors made by an overworked individual in those dimly lit halls of the Administratum that allowed for even the lowliest of hive world slums to partake in such a holy meal. Surley, if they are, as we have concluded, too holy for the consumption of the like of us, how much more unsuitable would it be for the Great Devourer to feast on it? You most certianly are correct that it would likley be tempted to do so, and not being in the sight of the God-Emperor their race would be doomed to face his awesome wrath."
The only problems now remaining are: Coming up with a reason to intentionally give big macs to the Nids, and the fact that this seems to be an easy solution, the Imperium never takes the easy way out. They prefer the near impossible.
Of course Big Mac are the first step, those sugar coated french fries with extra salt could be sprayed from fire hoses into hordes of Tyranids,
as could mountain dew, and of course, the nuke of junk food, deep fried Twinkies smothered in powdered sugar, topped with whipped cream, hot fudge, and sprinkles would be very tasty and even more lethal than than the big macs. Of course, all of this would still be accompanied by the conventional weaponry, we're not gonna feed the buggies for free.
That's right, folks the secret to defeating the Nids is the Stereotypical American Diet.