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Hi All,

Just joined this group! I am having problems understanding the
Trinity as it is difficult to comprehend and decided to have a
slightly alternative view.
I would still like to think myself as a Christian rather than be
considered a heretic!!!

My thoughts are pretty basic in that I believe that only the Father
existed in the beginning. As God he existed outside of time.
At some point before anything else was created he decided to have a
son so he created Jesus and thus we have time as the Father knows
when he formed his Son. Question then is how was Jesus formed? If
our Lord was formed by utterance i.e. Father said "Let there be a
son" and Jesus was formed he cannot be considered God. He would
simply be the first created spirit ahead of the angels. However, if
the Father created Jesus from his own NATURE,
is this what John meant when he referred to Jesus as the "only
begotten Son?" If this was the case then Jesus too is God because
of his nature and he too has no beginning in terms of his nature but
only his personality has a beginning. " God from God, Light from
Light, True God from True God, begotten not made" (creed). Father
taught his Son everything and through his Son created everything.
This is why I truly believe that Jesus is literally God's son and
that the Father being Father is greater than his son who sits at his
right hand. The next obvious question is are there two Gods or one?
Rather than try to solve this mathematical formula and get myself in
a muddle, I prefer to look at it in another way. What makes God God?
For me it has to be his nature. For another God to exist, it has to
have its own nature and must either proceed or existed independently
from the Father's nature. We know from the bible that EVERYTHING was
created by God therefore there is no other God or nature that
existed independently. Since Jesus' nature is from the Father's
nature, there is still the one nature hence one God.

When we look back at the original controversy between Arius and
Bishop Alexander, Arius views were rightly rejected for he denied
the divinity of Christ. Is the above just as bad?

God bless,

Cam





Tue Mar 9, 2004 12:08 am

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Hi All, Just joined this group! I am having problems understanding the Trinity as it is difficult to comprehend and decided to have a slightly alternative...
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Hi Cam, Its been a bit quiet on this group recently, but welcome anyway! You are right in saying that the Trinity is difficult to comprehend - but do we really...
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Hi Mark, Thanks for the welcome. Yes it is pretty quite here!!! Mark: What we know of God is by his own self revelation, not our own ... Cam: This is true. The...
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