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Re: Change the TULIP?


Hi

Thanks for the post, very interesting.

Personally, i like TULIP, especially 'unconditional elecion', which i
think describes biblical election excellently.

I hace never been a great fan of Limited Atonement, i like Spurgeon
like to call it 'Particular Redemption', which i think sits better
with my beliefs.

Still, nice try though and some good food for thought! But, as for
me, i don't think it will replace TULIP, still i have been known to
be wrong though!!

Cheers

Alan





--- In reformeddoctrineforum@..., bible_lighthouse
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I am a 5-point Calvinist, but I dislike the TULIP acronym. I think
4
> of the 5 letters are very misleading. Please check out this article
> regarding the problems with "TULIP":
> http://www.biblelighthouse.com/sovereignty/nomoretulip.htm
>
> I much prefer this formulation of the 5 points:
>
> E - Exhaustive Depravity
> L - Lord-centered Election
> E - Effectual Atonement
> C - Conquering Grace
> T - Triumphant Saints
>
> I go into some more detail here:
> http://www.biblelighthouse.com/sovereignty/elect.htm
>
> I'm so tired of hearing Arminians build straw men out of the
> words "unconditional", "limited", and "irresistible". "TULIP" has
> been around so long, and it's not going away. But it would be nice
to
> start seeing fewer TULIPs as time goes by. When I try to
> explain "TULIP" to people, I often have to explain
> why "unconditional" doesn't really
> mean "unconditional"; "irresistible" doesn't really
> mean "irresistible", etc.
>
> Even R.C. Sproul, Michael Horton, and many other Calvinist authors
> complain about TULIP or avoid it altogether.
>
> It's time for a new, more Biblical, more helpful mnemonic.
> Maybe "ELECT" will be it. Maybe not. But if anyone else has any
good
> ideas for a new "TULIP", by all means, share it!
>
> Let me know your thoughts . . .
>
> In Christ,
> Joseph M. Gleason
> _________________
> www.biblelighthouse.com
> ---The Bible Lighthouse ---






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