Question/Comments



Women Teachers in the Bible ?


Answer


So you have a problem with women ministers.

I posted a comment which you claim either not to have seen or simply dismissed.



Do you not know that the Eternal God uses whom or what He chooses when He
chooses

and He does not require that it agrees with your theology?

If He taught Balaam through an Ass, why can He not teach or speak through a
woman

or someone who is despised like myself?



Consider the fact that the Eternal says I change not.



Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not
consumed.



This means that what He did in the past He does today.

Plain simple English is it not?



Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.



He is actually the same God who said I change not.



Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful,
Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the
throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with
judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of
hosts will perform this.



Prophets/Prophetesses speak forth the word of the Lord, unfortunately few do
today.



Judges 4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel
at that time.



Deborah was an extraordinary woman while she was judging Israel.

Her great ability and courage far exceeded the elite of that time.

Barak, was in charge of the army, but in spite of the ten thousand soldiers with
him,

he refused to go into battle as commanded except Deborah went with him.



Judges 4:8 And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go:

but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go.



There were other prophetesses in both the Old and New Testament.



Exodus 15:20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in
her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.



2 Chronicles 34:22 And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to
Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of
Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college:) and
they spake to her to that effect.



Luke 2:36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the
tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years
from her virginity;



We have seen that there were prophetesses in the Old and New Testament.



In actual fact when things got desperate the women stood by Christ, while the
men ran off.



I am not endorsing every women preacher and teacher but I am showing that from
the bible

you cannot dismiss women teachers.



But Paul said:

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over
the man,

but to be in silence.



Every word that came out of Paul’s mouth was not a divine instruction.

It clearly shows that Paul was saying what his view point was ‘ I’, which he was
fully entitled to do.



Today all ministers include their opinions in their messages.

Paul was no different.

He also felt that it was best to be single rather than to be married.

Again he was entitled to his opinion.

If my wife ran off with another man, I can feel exactly the same way, that
marriage is not the best

thing for me. I am entitled to that opinion.

However, in spite of my opinion, the fact is that Genesis 2 clearly states:



Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be
alone;

I will make him an help meet for him.



We need to humble ourselves and listen to and obey the Eternal and whoever, He
truly sends to teach us.

If we do not, we might find that He chooses the option He suggested.



Luke 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to
say within yourselves,

We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you,

That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.



Would it not be awful to be replaced by a stone.



Macho man, the church is female in gender, is the bride of Christ, so believers
whether male or

female are going to be the bride of Christ.

Is that not a big problem?

p.j.

http://www.peterjamesx.com



Brother Shane <truebeliever_777@...> wrote:
Hmmm, still waiting.

Brother Shane <truebeliever_777@...> wrote: Please give the verses that
show there were ever female Rabbis (Teachers), in the Bible.


Antonietta Wheeler <antoniettawheeler@...> wrote:

THE BIBLE AND HEARING THE ETERNAL



For many years I have regarded the Bible as absolutely correct

in every way, and that it is the Direct Word of God.



Of course the Bible is the Direct Word of the Eternal.



Recently I have had reason to see that it was with good reason

that the following verses are written.



Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the
prophecy

of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the
plagues

that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,

God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city,
and from the

things which are written in this book.



What I had assumed was that no one would dare to slant or leave out or

add to the scripture, in any way in view of these severe warnings.

I had made a groundless assumption that the synagogue of Satan

would obey, and put everything that they ought to do in the Holy Scriptures.

If the Mother of Harlots has blatantly disobeyed on a myriad other points,

on what grounds did I believe that she has somehow obeyed the above warning?



Today it is quite common to see those in positions of authority twisting

and perverting the Word of God,

so this should be no surprise to us whatsoever.



It is a fact that the Bible is the Word of the Eternal.



However, that has never stopped people twisting it to

suit their personal or group agendas



We are told that

TheTruth is a person, Christ,

The Way is a person, Christ,

The Life is a person, Christ.

John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:

no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.



Any other means of arriving at the Truth is an error.



It is therefore only under the direct guidance of Christ,

who is the Holy Spirit, the counsellor, the Almighty God,

the Everlasting Father, that we can be assured that what we call ‘truth’,

is in fact Truth.



2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit:

and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.



Some might find this hard to swallow but that is how it is.



However, in the past few months it is now clear to us that books

which are referred to in the Bible, are not actually in the bible.

I have previously addressed this, and I mentioned that the book of Jasher,

and the book of Jubilees are two such cases.

There are others.



We now have copies of these books which seem to be valid.



The current canon was dictated by the Roman Catholic Church.

They not only messed around with the commandments, and the weekly

and annual festivals, as we have shown previously on this site, but they

have also carried out their desires with the very bible we have.



Rhema has told us to read the book of Enoch which previously

we avoided like the plague.

It then became clear why some books were kept out of the bible.

I am not saying that all books for example, in the Apocrypha,

should be in the bible, but Rhema has also stated that some more books

should have been included.

I am certainly not declaring what should, and should not be in the bible.

I have not been told to do any such thing and in any case I do not know.



What has greatly disturbed me recently,

is that the King James bible was authorised by a homosexual,

and a pervert. It makes me very sad to see that across the entire globe,

the Holy Name of the Eternal is linked to a pervert,

and very few indeed are aware of this fact.

It is reasonable to expect that some verses could easily have

a slant on them that was not intended in the first place.

As outrageous as this might sound, are they not trying to do this very

thing even today? Why can’t we face up to the fact that the Enemy

leaves no stone unturned in his unrighteous battle with the righteous.

This understanding might help our readers to understand why we tell

everyone to seek their own guidance on everything which we publish

on our site. We do not ask anyone to blindly believe what we say,

and neither does the Eternal do this.



We need to grasp that the fact that the only way that the Elect

will not be deceived is if we are seeking, and obeying the

guidance of the Eternal, which we refer to as Rhema.



The above warning, in Revelation, is clearly there to tell us

to be exceedingly careful.

We have assumed that it has never happened.

The reality is that it is only too common.

Some groups have their own perverted bible, e.g. the Jehovah Witnesses.



Additionally we may shun such translations, but there are things

that can have a wrong slant on them for example in the King James,

because of hidden agendas.



In the past I have written about the matter of wives submitting to their
husbands,

and the role of women in church.

In reality many women endure lives as Christian floor mats.

This is an abomination.

Of course men use scripture to support this stance.

I also pointed out that in the early church, there were

female rabbis who were regarded more highly than their husbands.



The point I am making is be very careful, and make sure that

you seek guidance of the Eternal on what you read.

There can be a very good reason for actual contradictions,

and the answer is not explaining them away in some greatly technical

manner, it is rather that the text has been adjusted in order

to justify some position.



To think that the text has not sometimes been tampered with

is without foundation.



Mercifully there is a sufficient body of truth to lead anyone to salvation,

when the Eternal opens the eyes and unstops the ears.



I am not suggesting that we throw out the bible or any such thing,

neither am I saying this to generate confusion, but rather

I am encouraging us to realise that the enemy has left no stone

unturned to mislead us, and we should be careful.



If we go directly to Christ we can deal with this situation.

Scholarship, prejudice, emotion and feelings are not enough.

Unfortunately that is how we tend to judge many things.



My experience is that when we are told by the Eternal not to do something,

we are actually already doing it, and it is not some theoretical and unlikely
possibility,

but rather the opposite is the case.



Let us therefore be seeking direct guidance and let us be

obedient to it in its entirety, and in detail.



I am also taking this opportunity to address a related issue.

It is the teaching which is constantly thrown in our faces

that if we were prophets of the Eternal, everything that we have

said would come to pass. As sometimes it does not or there is a delay,

or something is revoked, then we are called false prophets.

This also shows ignorance of a high degree.

We have never claimed to be prophets or to know everything.



First of all many, many times we are told things, and we promptly

pray that the often quite horrific things which we have been told

do not come to pass for the sake of those affected.

This is what we should do.
There is nothing new in this you will find examples
of this happening in the bible.

It is a fact that repentance can nullify prophecy or greatly delay it.



The second point is that we are commanded to hear the Eternal.

Many think that this applies simply to reading the bible.

This is not the case at all.

To Hear means to Listen.

This is not a matter of intellect, education, logic, deduction, reasoning,
emotion,

or prejudice as some actively promote.

For these individuals and groups, unless you were intellectual,

salvation is quite an impossibility.

Because we understand something that another believer does not

understand, that does not make us any better than him.

We are our brothers’ keeper.

There are countless examples in the Old and New Testament,

when people are told to listen. Some individuals and even nations did.

Wicked Ahab, and Nineveh for a start.

In the letters to the churches in Revelation,

each church is told to listen to the Spirit, which as I have stated is Christ.

That is exactly what we have to do today.
It is summarised in the following verse
Revelation 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.



It is only those who have never attempted to actually listen to the Eternal,

or the Roman Catholic Church, who claim infallibility.



The third point is that what you are told can be so outside what

is considered normal, you can immediately be branded a nut case.



The fourth point is why would God use an insignificant nobody like you,

and not someone with a good reputation, status or position?
The fifth point is that if you had actually attempted to listen
you would see how sometimes you would be uncertain.

You could easily find yourself like Gideon for example, wanting proof.

But what would you do if you were told something and told to act on it

and you were also told that on that particular matter you were not

going to be given any proof?



The sixth point is that sometime you are told to do something

simply to see if you would be obedient.

It might be outrageous, and go against everything which you believe,

and feel. What would you do then?

Do you think that this does not happen today,

just like it happened to Abraham, or do you think that Abraham

sacrificing Isaac was a one off?

The reality is that today and even more increasingly,

if we are genuine believers, we are going to be called “to walk on water”.

We are going to have to tell the sea or the river to open a way

for us to pass. We are going to have to act on what we are told.



We are going to have to move from our comfortable complacency

into the fire of the front line.

We are called to show heartfelt concern for those billions who are

on the verge of destruction, while we argue about this and that.

We are so wrapped up in ourselves, and our extended selves,

that to be blunt, we could not care less about the billions who

are suffering hunger and disease, while many are being wrongfully

imprisoned and murdered.



1 Corinthians 13:11 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,

but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and

all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains,

but have not love, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give

my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.



Read the whole chapter and meditate on it.

You may be able to recite it and have an intellectual understanding,

but this has to be your experience in reality.

This is an entirely different matter.



Many of us act like the bible brandishing president of the USA,

who recently said, "I'm a war president.

I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war

on my mind," he said.



However, that is not how we should conduct ourselves.



Isaiah 32:17 The work of righteousness will be peace,

And the effect of righteousness, quietness and assurance forever.



We are our brothers’ keeper, regardless of what we think we know.

We often would prefer to do anything but what we have been commanded.

We pooh, pooh it as namby pamby, and not as important as keeping some law

or ritual, or understanding the intricacies of some difficult scripture.

The truth is that what is required cannot be ignored or circumvented,

and it is in reality impossible to achieve without the indwelling Christ.



What has been required of us has never changed from the beginning.

It is to love the Eternal with our whole heart and our neighbour as ourselves.





Much Grace

p.j.



The only way out of this dilemma

is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ,

where we listen and obey precisely what we are told.

He is the only way of escape.

Praise the Lord.

Come soon Lord Jesus.

Amen.




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