This may appear to be very heavy reading but?? It has several points
to it, of which I would be pleased to discuss further with you.
Self consciousness, it has long been considered that this is innate
it would follow therefore that attitudes accompany our innate self
consciousness due to our automated behaviour to a situation. For
example, at maturity we look to the opposite gender! Generally
speaking this drive is both innate and an attitude based upon the
implementation of monogamous attitudes from parents, media and
society. Religion with its implications that "self' is our soul is
questionable based on our religious in doctoring and the society we
live in yet can also be used to create attitudes.
`What's this to do with epilepsy'?
In modernistic terms it is argued that self consciousness, attitudes
and our innate self is dualistic, that is to say they are one of the
same. It is as important though to accept that due to an attitude
(triggers for seizures) we all have behavioural responses, some good
some bad and these can lead us to have an emotional deficit. To fit
into our society we have to learn how to behave, alter our attitude!
In doing this it can take people out of there comfort zones leaving
them uncomfortable, nervous or even vulnerable and more prone to
fits.
Attitudes and self consciousness are innate/ media and society based
constraints that are imposed upon individuals as they grow and
develop from child hood through adolescence into adulthood where, the
links and chains of opinions are enforced upon the next generation.
This is why it is vital that we and our nearest and dearest
understand and give us a wide burth.
A prime example of this can be seen in the modem child of today,
there are few who are aware of the constraints of familiarity and or
respect to there elders. This "mind set" is a complete change from
thirty years ago clearly indicating that "attitudes" towards teaching
respect (to create an attitude) has changed. It is apparent that, in
this instance child rearing is not innate, it has to be taught but,
when a child is in danger it is a self conscious innate response to
protect it. So, it is that same attitude that we all need to adopt to
ease the pressures on both the epileptic and the family/friends.
I introduced this essay by referring to attitudes/ triggers and how
they accompany our innate self consciousness due to our automated
behaviour to a situation. Hence, the starting point for this topical
research is as old as researchable recorded history, from the mass
attitudinal hysteria towards the Jews before the Second World War to
the good will drive to save the planet. These are all attitudes which
when reaching a point of hysteria can affect self consciousness and
can become an inherent attribute for the innate self "US" AND OUR
SELF CONFIDANCE, (I wont go out just in case---).
The concept of Social psychology of self could be summed up by
Solomon Asch (1956) where his studies into "normal" (what is socially
and culturally acceptable) groups, there social influence and places
they are at will result in a form of conformity. This however is a
resulting opinion of a minority (US) not a majority and over looks
the individual. It is this attitude that affects self consciousness
and is the frustrating difficulty, helping people to help us help
ourselves?
As "We" the human race are from many differences a starting point for
this researchable history into attitudes and self consciousness is
through the eyes of religion- self-soul and the inherent parental/
cultural dis/approval of behaviour. Is society to be held accountable
for these behavioural attitudes or society for en doctoring the
young. Either way both are based on a common ground/need, that being
cohesion based upon a fear factor.
Contrary to this social influence on behaviour and to re enforce the
point raised earlier With regards to the frustrating difficulty in
researching social psychology of self we have a strange species
called the individual/non conformist. (An example of such was
reviewed by us he he)
In a drive to research self and attitude "Unfolding discourse
analysis" in post modernism has been researched by (McGuire, 1985, p.
239) raising the concept that "attitudes are locating objects of
thought on dimensions of judgement and placing it in a hierarchy
(phenomenological narratives). Equally Potter and Wetherell in there
research are more interested in how people talk (cognitive
processes). This turn to language research though is seen as a model
of contained, rational and stable individual processes. For now, in
short phenomenological narratives are pictoral descriptions, used as
a method to converse with `society', this method is used
unconsciously due to hemispheric damage (a side of the brain). For
epileptics who aquired or were born with the disadvantage the
cognitive processes are more intact. This is partially why `we' are
al different, that and the fact that the pills we have to take change
our personality.


processes, which themselves can processes, which themselves can be
analysed in terms of discourse variables and, ultimately, predicted
and manipulated.
This "modem research" into dualism gives a more adequate insight into
cause and effect based on both social and cultural differences ie the
deprived may have an alternative insight to morality than the rich.
In research terms LaPiere encapsulates the whole concept by noting
that attitude research needs to focus on an individual's behaviour.
The study of people in there environment will reveal social attitudes
in response to social situations thus revealing the true grasp of the
media, peer pressure and innate endoctorings, "I AM!"
To study two different socio cultural groups and say there
behavioural attitudes and self consciousness are the same for mankind
would be far from accurate. It is in fact inaccurate due to the
individuals self being a creation of the socio cultural foundations
it has lived with. The embodiment of our self and attitudes is a
result of our culture and breeding, how we implement this "knowledge"
into the next generation will be the resulting factor as to wether or
not society prospers. As Koop said, "When people learn to care, when
they accept the fact that there may be risks to caring and when they
agree to take those risks in order to preserver there place in the
community," community may be prosperous!.


lets talk ah??

--- In romance-epilepsy@..., "STEPHEN"
<stephen.bellini@...> wrote:
>i do argree  on  that no else know only self
> if anyones up to talking about them heres an opener. Everything in
> life has cause and effect, a child who is ignored (cause) will join a
> gang and be in trouble (effect). the poffesionals will deal with the
> effect, (lock them up) but never the cause.
> the same goes with neurologists and epieptics, DR DR i have
> epilepsy,'well heres a pill go away.
> try this one with your neurologist, DR DR i have comunication trouble
> with society and my loved ones'.S/He will think 'oh side effects of
> pills or brain dammage' but wont give you a solution to it?
> Psychology? teach yourself?? none else will or can because we all have
> different causes although alot of us will have the same effects. Here
> in lies the topic 'Attitudes',our's and how we want to cope or give
> in .
> open for discussion,
> steve b
>

if anyones up to talking about them heres an opener. Everything in
life has cause and effect, a child who is ignored (cause) will join a
gang and be in trouble (effect). the poffesionals will deal with the
effect, (lock them up) but never the cause.
the same goes with neurologists and epieptics, DR DR i have
epilepsy,'well heres a pill go away.
try this one with your neurologist, DR DR i have comunication trouble
with society and my loved ones'.S/He will think 'oh side effects of
pills or brain dammage' but wont give you a solution to it?
Psychology? teach yourself?? none else will or can because we all have
different causes although alot of us will have the same effects. Here
in lies the topic 'Attitudes',our's and how we want to cope or give
in .
open for discussion,
steve b

LOL LOL LOL !!!

Hi Stephen,

Guess I have disappeared for a while ... not sure where I have been.
I am doing the doctor thing and just the trips to the appointments
and back are really difficult and draining for me.

That's a great joke ... I haven't been coming across any that are
good lately ...

I have been trying to study up on natural cures and healthy diets and
holistic medicine ... all of that stuff. Think I am just overloading
the old brain though. But one thing that is really interesting is the
amount of additives and preservatives (like MSG, for one) are
actually neuro toxins!!!!! That's really great, huh! Atleast in this
country it seems we're being poisoned!!!

I notice the number of new Epilepsy cases have been on a steady rise.
I know that alot of that is from the injuries of war ... but the rest
because ... ??? ... chemicals in our food, water, air ... ???

Hmmm ... makes me wonder.

Well, I will try to get my head together and find some good jokes ...

Blessings to ya!

Sandra

LOL LOL LOL !!!

Hi Stephen,

Guess I have disappeared for a while ... not sure where I have been.
I am doing the doctor thing and just the trips to the appointments
and back are really difficult and draining for me.

That's a great joke ... I haven't been coming across any that are
good lately ...

I have been trying to study up on natural cures and healthy diets and
holistic medicine ... all of that stuff. Think I am just overloading
the old brain though. But one thing that is really interesting is the
amount of additives and preservatives (like MSG, for one) are
actually neuro toxins!!!!! That's really great, huh! Atleast in this
country it seems we're being poisoned!!!

I notice the number of new Epilepsy cases have been on a steady rise.
I know that alot of that is from the injuries of war ... but the rest
because ... ??? ... chemicals in our food, water, air ... ???

Hmmm ... makes me wonder.

Well, I will try to get my head together and find some good jokes ...

Blessings to ya!

Sandra

A lady approaches her priest and tells him "Father, I have a problem.
I have two female talking parrots, but they only know how to say one
thing."

"What do they say?" the priest inquired.

"They only know how to say, 'Hi, we're prostitutes. Want to have some
fun?'"

"That's terrible!" the priest exclaimed, "but I have a solution to
your problem. Bring your two female parrots over to my house and I
will put them with my two male talking parrots whom I taught to pray
and read the bible. My parrots will teach your parrots to stop saying
that terrible phrase and your female parrots will learn the joys of
praise and worship."

"Thank you!" the woman responded.

The next day the woman brings her female parrots to the priest's
house. His two male parrots are holding the rosary beads and praying
in their cage. The lady puts her two female parrots in with the male
parrots and the female parrots say "Hi we're prostitutes, want to
have some fun?"

One male parrot looks over at the other male parrot and
exclaims, "Put the beads away, brother. Our prayers have been
answered!"

anyone want to be talking about anything in particular?

A man meets a genie. The genie tells him he can have whatever he
wants, provided that his mother-in-law gets double.

The man thinks for a moment and then says, "OK, give me a million
dollars and beat me half to death

well??

steve b

'they' say as you get older you get wiser and start to ask questions-
heres one 'who is 'they', and if they are that clever why dont 'they'
say there name, and anyway who the hell do 'they' think they are?
DA,

LOL LOL LOL LOL !!! Love it !!!

Hey Stephen, I think I caught the flu from the doctor's clinic! Now I
am in worse shape than before ... LOL

But this joke put a big smile on my face ... gotta go to bed.

Be Blessed,

Sandra

An old couple go to the doctor. The old man goes first to have his
physical. When the doctor is done with him, he sends the old man back
into the waiting room and calls the old woman in.

The doctor tells her, "Before we proceed with the examination, I
would like to talk to you about your husband first."

The old woman says, "Oh, no, it's his heart. I told him to lay off
the eggs."

The doctor says, "Well, I asked your husband how he is feeling and he
told me he felt great. He said that when he got up to go to the
bathroom, he opened the door and God turned the light on for him.
When he was done, he would shut the door and God would turn the light
out for him."

The old woman responded, "Damn it, he's peeing in the fridge again!"

well being tired and having our brains fried by meds doesnt help at
all ah, i can only speak from the knowledge i gained doing psychology
degree and experiance,what i found was (and really answers a question
sandy asked 'how did you remeber it' regarding degree studies) by
learning that we have (like a pc) many different areas of memory we
have to find one that we can use and rely on. thats half the battle.
for me its visual memory and making film clips out of what i have to
remeber
The other side to the success is to push ourselfs, give us tests,
simple as they may be. for me i would write a list of nonsence, like a
shopping list and at the end of the day replay my film clip to see if
it and the written list are the same. sounds silly i know but what i
was doing was making my brain work. (oh the headackes hehe). its
phenomenological narratives, i wrote of it at the beginning of the
group.

whats your take on it all

we all have working memory (here and now) then its gone into short
term and then long tern memory. however depending on the info it can
be diverted or lost. bit like a pc, you would send a photo to photos
but it may get sent to word then its lost (not paying attention to
what somone says, or treting the information as stupid). thats the
simple annalogy. we all have many forms of memory, one of the most
reliant is visual, we can all imagine our favourite camp site or hotel
and see it vividly ah. That is a starting point for us to find what
type of memory we can use to be reliant.
a rooster (hen in england hehe) went shopping in the snow, it was
walking on to the shops, smoking a fag, put a coat on, im sure you can
see that rooster right now. well that short film clip was a shopping
list i once had, i relayed the film clip when i went into the shop and
bought a chicken, cream (that was the snow) ,fags and knitting wool
(that was the coat). to that i added a dialog to the film,to double up
on the memory.

theres a starter what say you

hi sandra how you doing

LOL !!!! Oh, my God!!!

Hi Stephen, yes lets talk about improving memory. What are some ways
to do it?

Some days mine is better than other days. Or actually there seems to
be a difference even during a one day period, like before or after I
sz or just start feeling really tired.  Then it feels like my brain
is also really tired and refuses to work. Also, I keep getting these
horrible feelings in my head ... like little electric zaps and
tingles, that seem to make me really sick at my stomach. And no
energy at all!

I got really tired out Friday over the 5 hour doctors trip and can
not seem to shake it. Saturday I had a really strange ... seizure ...
I guess, not really sure what that was. It reminded me of Parkinsons
or something like that ... Afterwards, with the exhaustion and sick
stomach, it sure felt like a fit.

Here is a joke ...

Who's the Strongest

A strong young man at the construction site was bragging that he
could outdo anyone in a feat of strength. "I am the strongest, most
powerful man here," he boasted. He made a special case of making fun
of John, one of the older workmen.

After several minutes, John had enough. "Why don't you put your money
where your mouth is?" he said. "I will bet a week's wages that I can
haul something in a wheelbarrow over to that outbuilding that you
won't be able to wheel back."

"You're on old man," the braggart replied. "It's a bet! Let's see
what you got."

John reached out and grabbed the wheelbarrow by the handles. Then,
nodding to the young man, he said "All right. Get in."

Blessings, Sandra

Four Catholic ladies are having coffee together. The first one tells
her friends, "My son is a priest. When he walks into a room, everyone
calls him 'Father'."

The second Catholic woman chirps, "My son is a Bishop. Whenever he
walks into a room, people say, 'Your Grace'."

The third Catholic woman says smugly, "My son is a Cardinal. Whenever
he walks into a room, people say, 'Your Eminence'."

The fourth Catholic woman sips her coffee in silence. The first three
women give her this subtle "Well.....?"

She replies, "My son is a gorgeous, 6'2", hard bodied stripper. When
he walks into a room, people say, 'Oh my God...

alot of us came to relise that because of our epilepsy we have limited
memories so we have, over time, resorted to stay in our 'comfert zone'
so that when we are asked something we can use what we know as a
foundation for an answer. That way we think we wont appear 'daft'. SO
WHY SHOULD WE CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF US we are what we are,there is
an alternative though if we build our confidance up and push ourselves
using other forms of memory (we all have many) we will find a
technique that will enable us to improve our memories.

                   LETS TALK ABOUT AH UM ER DONT REMEMBER hehe
either that or ill expose you all to some very bad english jokes lol


like if you cant convince them confuse them,keep smiling it confuses
people????

--- In romance-epilepsy@..., "Craig" <Headspin@...>
wrote:
nice one sandy, lol were doing well for med jokes ah, at this rate we
should rename our group?


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--- In romance-epilepsy@..., Thomas Balcom
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> To: romance-epilepsy@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:14:58 AM
> Subject: [romance-epilepsy] oh, good gratious me???
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--- In romance-epilepsy@..., "Craig" <Headspin@...>
wrote:
>
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very nice, i think you should send a copy of that to bill gates??
ive looked and looked, i have to give it to you craig, your finding
better jokes than me

steve b