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Re: [SHUXI] i think it's time for some debating!!!

Where does Ms Graham's quote come to an end ? please clarify for accuracy
before I can send on
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From: sizimizi
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Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:52 AM
Subject: [SHUXI] i think it's time for some debating!!!


>Billy Graham's daughter was being interviewed on the Early Show and
Jane
>Clayson asked her
>"How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the
attacks
on
>Sept. 11th),
>Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
>She said: 'I believe that God is deeply saddened by this, just as we
are,
>but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to
get
out
>of our government and to get out of our lives.
>And being the gentleman that He is, I believe that He has calmly
backed
>out.
>How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if
we
>demand that He leave us alone?"
>In light of recent events......terrorists attacks, school shootings,
etc.
>Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare (she was
>murdered, her body was found recently) complained she didn't want
any
>prayer in our schools, and we said ok.
>Then, someone said you better not read the Bible in school......the
Bible
>that says: 'thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your
>neighbour as yourself. And we said OK. Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said
we
>shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their
little
>personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem
(
Dr
>Spock's son committed suicide)
>And we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we
said
OK.
>Then someone said teachers and heads better not discipline our
children
>when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty
member
>in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because
we
don't
>want any bad publicity, and surely we don't want to be sued (There's
big
>difference between disciplining and touching, beating, smacking,
>humiliating, kicking etc) And we said OK. Then someone said:'lets
let
our
>daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't have to tell
their
>parents. And we said, OK. Then some wise school board member said,
since
>boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, lets give our
sons all
>the condoms they want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and
we
>won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
said,
OK.
>
>Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what
we
do in
>private as long as we do our jobs. And agreeing with them, we said
it
>doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in
private
>as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
>And then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude
women and
>call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the
female
>body. And we said,OK.
>And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
published
>pictures of nude children and then went even further still by making
them
>available on the internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to their
free
>speech.
>And then the entertainment industry said,: 'let's make TV shows and
films
>that promote profanity, violence and illicit sex, but lets call it
art. And
>let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and
>satanic themes.
>And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and
nobody
>takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
>
>Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why
they
>don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill
>strangers, their classmates and themselves.
>Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure
it
out.
>I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW"
>Dear God, "Why didn't you save the little girl killed in her
classroom?"
>Sincerely, Concerned Student.......AND THE REPLY "Dear Concerned
Student, I
>am not allowed in schools" Sincerely, God Funny how simple it is for
people
>to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to Hell.
>Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the
Bible
>says.
>Funny how everyone wants to go to Heaven provided they do not have
to
>believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says.
>Funny how someone can say "I believe in God" but still follow Satan
who, by
>the way, also believes in God !
>funny how we are quick to judge but not to be judged.
>Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' thru' e-mail and they
spread
like
>wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
people
>think twice about sharing or 'forwarding'.
>Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely thru'
cyberspace,
>but the public discussion of God is suppressed in the schools and
>workplace.
>Funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on Sunday, but be an
>invisible, silent Christian the rest of the week.
>Are you laughing ???
>Funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it
to
many
>on your address list because you're not sure what they believe or
what
they
>will think of you for sending it to them....
>Funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me
then
>what God thinks of me.
>Are you thinking ????
>Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then you just delete
it.
No
>one will know that you did it. But, if you discard this thought
process,
>then don't sit back and complain about what a bad shape the world is
in !!



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