1.548 at that time has been logged as R Sawa via Kuwait with US and Aradic pops
while on 1.550 Nat Radio of SADA. W Sahara, these loggings taked from the BDXC
logs. JUST QUOTEING. Mike.

unident hrd thurs night at 2210z weak arab with football match commentary on
1548. Am using SONY ICF SW1 which only has 9 khz offsets so wonder if possibly
the democratic Sahara station at Rabuni on 1550. Noted Kuwait listed on 1548
with 600KW but doubt it. El Aaioun on 711 blasting in at the time.

Any ideas

ed  G1MXP/San agustin, Gran canaria

----- Original Message -----

From: John Faulkner

To: skywavesmw@...

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:51 AM

Subject: Re: [skywavesmw] Matlock Forest DX Trip: 19-11-09

Personally I try to get as close to 100% sure with every logging, but this isnt
always possible, some mistakes are inevitable.

Sometimes you can draw inferences from conditions and or channel usage - hearing
for example a long pip on 549 khz cant be anything else but Okinawa but on
another frequency where there is some doubt I personally wouldnt make the claim.

I was playing devils advocate with a few of the Matlock loggings more to get
discussion going about logging rather than any criticism of the actual logs. I
picked 6 out of 76 thats something like 8 % and of those the inferences drawn by
the logger are probably correct in the majority. Thats close to 100% accuracy.
Put it like this if I had a far eastern log to be reviewed Tim Bucknall is the
guy Id send it to.

As for the time pips as an identifier, for me Id go for something which can
defintely be tied to an individual station or network, not just the pips alone,
unless they could only come from one source on a given frequency.

As for TV DX with no pictures that never really appealed to me.

regards

Paul Logan,
Lisnaskea, N. Ireland



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--- On Sun, 22/11/09, patrice.privat <patrice.privat@...> wrote:

From: patrice.privat <patrice.privat@...>
Subject: [skywavesmw] Time Pips
To: skywavesmw@...
Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 20:10







 












Hiya,
 
It all comes down to the question of personal standards
AND personal ideas of fun.
Let us be broad-minded in that respect.
After all, the easier the criteria, the more you enter
in your logbook, the faster you reach the hard limit.
If you take in all that's on the air in a short time,
you're left with the task of finding new horizons sooner.
For that matter, I never tried to do any TV DX with the
sole carrier traces on Spectran as a proof because first it was technically
boring and then what's the use of logging Cameroon if you never end up with a
picture ? But why not let other aficionados get their kicks out of it
?
Same with MW stations, I prefer to starve for weeks
rather than officialising the piles of "tentatives" .
I'd be over 100 stations if I did.
But you have to admit that everyone sees Noon in their
own private garden as we say in French.
Think of NDBs (beacons) some people play by (Spectran)
screen and wait for the dots and lines to be neat on the monitor, others by ear,
some with filters, some without.
As long as you re accurate on how you came to your
conclusions, there's no harm to my mind.
I've set my own assessment chart for TA DX that puts me
now (with Mexico City's Formula ) at 22/40 but it will be a sad day when I reach
40. Coz it seems very unlikely to me to catch Vanuatu or the funky Samoans on MW
from this here shack.
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Hi,
     Today on a wet afternoon I erected a Flag antenna, 30ft top x 15ft
verticals,
the orientation is 340 degrees ( by compass ) being a product of the house /
mast siting.
I would appreciate what I should be looking for from US stations, if any !!!!
One my Great Circle map it would seem to favour a line Greenland - White Horse
?????
Expert opinions most welcome.
                                              72, Brian, G0NSL-QRP.

Ok after looking again at the Matlock loggings im going to play devils advocate
and urge a bit of caution with the following ones: Since Korea and Japan have
the same time pips and in the absence of other identifying material.

567 JOIK NHK-1, Sapporo, ex weak Time sig, ID (personal first) 222 1400
18/11 TB/JF (HLKF also here with 100kw)

1215 HLAK MBC, Jinju , time signal just audible in lucky UK Audio gap
during LG ad (personal first) 111 1400 18/11 TB/JF ( two Japanese here 1 kw / 2
kw)

1224 HLAA KBS 3, Gwangju, usual 875hz time pip 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF (10 kw NHK1
also here)

1377 JOUC NHK-2, Yamaguchi, ex poor pips behind CNR & UK (personal
first) 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF (several other lower powered Japanese here)

765 HLCQ MBC, Daejon distinctive pip way behind RUS 111 1600 18/11 TB/JF (Two 5
kw Japanese here)

1098 HLCJ KBS 1, Jinju, time sig in TWN audio break 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF
(Several 5 kw Japanese here)

feel free to shout at me now :-)


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Hi John,

yeah you are right those time pips are unique. First time I heard them I knew
they were something special and not something I'd run into before.

In saying that I have my own qualms about using them as loggings BUT to be
absolutely honest Im probably being overly anal. Its clear what they are and
where they are coming from. Theres not much difference between them and say a
Radio Reloj morse ident.

On the afternoon of the 6th I had them on 549 567 603 612 747 828 837 891 1017
1071 1170 probably Korea 1188 1197 1224 1233 single note higher pitch 1242 1287
1368 1386 1467 probably Korea 1503 Strong 1512 1593.

Had yourself and Tim been out the previous afternoon I think your tally would
have been double - I was hearing the "music box" weak on 1593 / 828 just after
1600.

It kind of shows however the limitations of our "pretend" home antennas :-(
that and the bloody noise most of us have to put up with.

I want to live on the edge of a peat bog!


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--- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...> wrote:

> From: John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...>
> Subject: Re: [skywavesmw] Matlock Forest DX Trip:  19-11-09
> To: skywavesmw@...
> Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 8:46
> Hello Paul.
>
> We were surprised by the number of Oriental stations which
> came through
> on the day. This is no doubt due to having a clear,
> noise-free band.
> Also, remember that virtually all the stations in our log
> are multiple
> 100s kW anyway so theoretically they SHOULD get out
> reasonably well.
>
> We have no problems with people questioning the loggings as
> many DXers
> would not dream of counting time pips as a form of
> identification, but
> it's no different to carrier measurement. Each of these
> things represent
> another method of working out what you have received and
> those time pips
> are unique.
>
> If Perseus owners wish to hear our DX they can visit the
> Skywaves SDR
> Filesharing group and download the top-of-the-hour files.
> It's all there.
>
> Good DX!
>
> John
>
>
> Paul Logan wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the amazing thing about this log is that it was made
> on a pretty
> > terrible day for far eastern reception (compared to
> some days recently)
> >
> > Amazing stuff, it has inspired me to think of some
> possible
> > expeditions over the winter.
> >
> > Hats off to John and Tim.
> >
> > Paul Logan,
> > Lisnaskea, N. Ireland
> >
> > Listening Homepage: http://band2dx.webs.com/ <http://band2dx.webs.com/>
> > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofotos/
>
> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofotos/>
> > Video: http://www.youtube.com/user/yogi540
> > <http://www.youtube.com/user/yogi540>
> >
> > --- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...
>
> > <mailto:john.faulkner%40skywaves.info>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...
>
> > <mailto:john.faulkner%40skywaves.info>>
> > > Subject: Re: [skywavesmw] Matlock Forest DX Trip:
> 19-11-09
> > > To: skywavesmw@...
> <mailto:skywavesmw%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
> > > Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 0:56
> > > That's right Jurgen. Thanks for the
> > > correction. Tim emailed me this
> > > evening to explain that he had got a couple of
> the
> > > stations/sites confused.
> > >
> > > If the logging is stated with just "time pips"
> then that is
> > > all that was
> > > heard. It's a shame there was not more audio on
> some of the
> > > signals, but
> > > clearly these were the stations which got
> through, albeit
> > > very weakly.
> > > As explained in the article, the time pips are
> quite unique
> > > and we
> > > thought it was better to include them in the log
> to show
> > > the DX
> > > possibilities. There is nothing else they could
> have been.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > Jurgen Bartels wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 216 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, chimes
> under RMC
> > > 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > > > >
> > > > > 225 Gollos Rossi, Surgut, chimes, nx
> under POL
> > > 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > > > >
> > > > > 234 Gollos Rossi Angarsk, ex poor
> chimes way
> > > behind RTL.
> > > > > 2 secs later than 225(personal first)
> 111 1700
> > > 18/11 TB/JF
> > > > >
> > > > > 279 Gollos Rossi, Yekaterinburg, Chimes
> under BLR
> > > 232 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > > >
> > > > Did you actually *listen* to the content, or
> just time
> > > pips / chimes? :-)
> > > >
> > > > It is not Golos Rossii, but R.Rossii
> something *very*
> > > different !!
> > > > You should know that :-)
> > > > Listen to 171 / 261 to find out
> > > >
> > > > Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany
> > > > Winradio G305 & Perseus
> > > > Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
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Hi

my audio of XEAI-1470 this sunrise (sunday) at :

http://www.box.net/shared/ssbby8y05q

please report if the link does not work

cheers de Pat jn19

Hi. Well set the clock for 07.30 BST sunrise time so the web said, for my try
out at MW dxing, not new to it but had left it some years ago, what have they
done to the band the qrm is very heavy could be local to me but not all. Here is
my report such as it is.
  RX Kenwood TS 460 bandwidth 2.4 khz.
  07.42 on 0.660khz WFAN NY advert, voice level just above a whisper.
  08.10 on 1.130khz WBBR NY man-women talk, voice level a bit better.
  08.15 on 1.520khz WWKB NY poss - very weak.
  Well NY was coming in but far from well! My QRM seems not only to be mains
bound but air bound as well so must do a walkabout or not use the mains rx,
reception MUST get better, not at least I heard something, I think my Degen DE
1130 might do a better job! Thanks John F for the bearings a great help. Mike
Bungay Suffolk.

Hello Brian.

That's right, threading the wires through the trees would be more
time-consuming, but we might just do that for an Alaskan trip.
Directivity has always been improved when the wire is a metre or more
above the ground.  The BOG works pretty well anyway.

Then there's the curious members of the public.  We were watched by
somebody the other day while they parked their car next to the beverage
feed point and scrutinised the connections.  It puts me off a bit.

Cheers

John


brian russell wrote:
> John,
>         Once again a nice tale of derring do by the intrepid duo, well done
!!!!
> I assume that the Matlock ' Forest '  is not quite so, threading wires though
> the trees would be a bit of a struggle ????
>                                    72, Brian, G0NSL-QRP.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "*** MWCircle" <mwcircle@yahoogroups.com>; "*** SkywavesMW"
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> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:48 PM
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Hello Paul.

We were surprised by the number of Oriental stations which came through
on the day. This is no doubt due to having a clear, noise-free band.
Also, remember that virtually all the stations in our log are multiple
100s kW anyway so theoretically they SHOULD get out reasonably well.

We have no problems with people questioning the loggings as many DXers
would not dream of counting time pips as a form of identification, but
it's no different to carrier measurement. Each of these things represent
another method of working out what you have received and those time pips
are unique.

If Perseus owners wish to hear our DX they can visit the Skywaves SDR
Filesharing group and download the top-of-the-hour files. It's all there.

Good DX!

John


Paul Logan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> the amazing thing about this log is that it was made on a pretty
> terrible day for far eastern reception (compared to some days recently)
>
> Amazing stuff, it has inspired me to think of some possible
> expeditions over the winter.
>
> Hats off to John and Tim.
>
> Paul Logan,
> Lisnaskea, N. Ireland
>
> Listening Homepage: http://band2dx.webs.com/ <http://band2dx.webs.com/>
> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofotos/
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofotos/>
> Video: http://www.youtube.com/user/yogi540
> <http://www.youtube.com/user/yogi540>
>
> --- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...
> <mailto:john.faulkner%40skywaves.info>> wrote:
>
> > From: John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...
> <mailto:john.faulkner%40skywaves.info>>
> > Subject: Re: [skywavesmw] Matlock Forest DX Trip: 19-11-09
> > To: skywavesmw@... <mailto:skywavesmw%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
> > Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 0:56
> > That's right Jurgen. Thanks for the
> > correction. Tim emailed me this
> > evening to explain that he had got a couple of the
> > stations/sites confused.
> >
> > If the logging is stated with just "time pips" then that is
> > all that was
> > heard. It's a shame there was not more audio on some of the
> > signals, but
> > clearly these were the stations which got through, albeit
> > very weakly.
> > As explained in the article, the time pips are quite unique
> > and we
> > thought it was better to include them in the log to show
> > the DX
> > possibilities. There is nothing else they could have been.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > Jurgen Bartels wrote:
> > >
> > > > 216 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, chimes under RMC
> > 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > > >
> > > > 225 Gollos Rossi, Surgut, chimes, nx under POL
> > 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > > >
> > > > 234 Gollos Rossi Angarsk, ex poor chimes way
> > behind RTL.
> > > > 2 secs later than 225(personal first) 111 1700
> > 18/11 TB/JF
> > > >
> > > > 279 Gollos Rossi, Yekaterinburg, Chimes under BLR
> > 232 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > >
> > > Did you actually *listen* to the content, or just time
> > pips / chimes? :-)
> > >
> > > It is not Golos Rossii, but R.Rossii something *very*
> > different !!
> > > You should know that :-)
> > > Listen to 171 / 261 to find out
> > >
> > > Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany
> > > Winradio G305 & Perseus
> > > Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
> > > http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
> <http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm>
> > > <http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
> <http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm>>
> > >
> > > http://fewo.3sdesign.de <http://fewo.3sdesign.de>
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         Once again a nice tale of derring do by the intrepid duo, well done !!!!
I assume that the Matlock ' Forest '  is not quite so, threading wires though
the trees would be a bit of a struggle ????
                                    72, Brian, G0NSL-QRP.

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Subject: [skywavesmw] Matlock Forest DX Trip: 19-11-09

Hi all,

the amazing thing about this log is that it was made on a pretty terrible day
for far eastern reception (compared to some days recently)

Amazing stuff, it has inspired me to think of some possible expeditions over the
winter.

Hats off to John and Tim.

Paul Logan,
Lisnaskea, N. Ireland

Listening Homepage: http://band2dx.webs.com/
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/radiofotos/
Video: http://www.youtube.com/user/yogi540


--- On Sun, 22/11/09, John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...> wrote:

> From: John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...>
> Subject: Re: [skywavesmw] Matlock Forest DX Trip:  19-11-09
> To: skywavesmw@...
> Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 0:56
> That's right Jurgen. Thanks for the
> correction. Tim emailed me this
> evening to explain that he had got a couple of the
> stations/sites confused.
>
> If the logging is stated with just "time pips" then that is
> all that was
> heard. It's a shame there was not more audio on some of the
> signals, but
> clearly these were the stations which got through, albeit
> very weakly.
> As explained in the article, the time pips are quite unique
> and we
> thought it was better to include them in the log to show
> the DX
> possibilities. There is nothing else they could have been.
>
> John
>
>
> Jurgen Bartels wrote:
> >
> > > 216 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, chimes under RMC
> 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > >
> > > 225 Gollos Rossi, Surgut, chimes, nx under POL
> 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> > >
> > > 234 Gollos Rossi Angarsk, ex poor chimes way
> behind RTL.
> > > 2 secs later than 225(personal first) 111 1700
> 18/11 TB/JF
> > >
> > > 279 Gollos Rossi, Yekaterinburg, Chimes under BLR
> 232 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> >
> > Did you actually *listen* to the content, or just time
> pips / chimes? :-)
> >
> > It is not Golos Rossii, but R.Rossii something *very*
> different !!
> > You should know that :-)
> > Listen to 171 / 261 to find out
> >
> > Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany
> > Winradio G305 & Perseus
> > Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
> > http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
> > <http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm>
> >
> > http://fewo.3sdesign.de <http://fewo.3sdesign.de> - Vacation home: DX
> > right at the Northsea coast
> >
> >
> >
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That's right Jurgen. Thanks for the correction. Tim emailed me this
evening to explain that he had got a couple of the stations/sites confused.

If the logging is stated with just "time pips" then that is all that was
heard. It's a shame there was not more audio on some of the signals, but
clearly these were the stations which got through, albeit very weakly.
As explained in the article, the time pips are quite unique and we
thought it was better to include them in the log to show the DX
possibilities. There is nothing else they could have been.

John


Jurgen Bartels wrote:
>
> > 216 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, chimes under RMC 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> >
> > 225 Gollos Rossi, Surgut, chimes, nx under POL 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> >
> > 234 Gollos Rossi Angarsk, ex poor chimes way behind RTL.
> > 2 secs later than 225(personal first) 111 1700 18/11 TB/JF
> >
> > 279 Gollos Rossi, Yekaterinburg, Chimes under BLR 232 1700 18/11 TB/JF
>
> Did you actually *listen* to the content, or just time pips / chimes? :-)
>
> It is not Golos Rossii, but R.Rossii something *very* different !!
> You should know that :-)
> Listen to 171 / 261 to find out
>
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This morning a surprise on 1620 with Rebelde with good levels.

These x-banders came in after a longer absence

1620 CUB R. Rebelde loud & clear
1680 USA WTTM-El Pasaporte, Lindenwold, NJ,
1680 USA WOKB Que Buena, Winter Garden, FL,
1700 USA WJCC 17-00 AM, Miami Springs, FL,


Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

Thank You JOHN. I do have the details of the FLAG antenna, I think its 25 feet
top by 2 x 10 feet drop down each end with a 850 ohm resistor hope thats right
or like a inverted U, getting that resistor or mix of same maybe a problem for
me here in the back woods of beyond. My Problem - about a week ago brain dead
under me came up and he thinks I have some form of into the floor death ray up
here, I called the police and last tuesday he got a finale council warning,
thing is I am - plus my wife and others in this block of 4 flats are now quite
worried to go outside so we are all ducking and diving with our movements, yes
what a way to live, the bottom line is I can only do things while he and his
partener are out getting stoned, such a wire down the garden may upset him,
could such a FLAG antenna be put in a loft, BTW I have a T2FD here hope you and
others know what that is, that was down the garden for a while, but we got re
tiled and I never put it up again. Thanks for the bearings, at the moments its
all up to the loop. I have been noteing your logs, well I did get to Taiwan,
hearing Family Radio must have been right time, right conditions, freq was 1.557
at 15.15 BST REL prog was on air, that is some going for a loop. Many Thanks. 
Mike.

--- In skywavesmw@..., John Faulkner <john.faulkner@...> wrote:
>

> 216 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, chimes under RMC 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF
>
> 225 Gollos Rossi, Surgut, chimes, nx under POL 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF
>
> 234 Gollos Rossi Angarsk, ex poor chimes way behind RTL.
> 2 secs later than 225(personal first) 111 1700 18/11 TB/JF
>
> 279 Gollos Rossi, Yekaterinburg, Chimes under BLR 232 1700 18/11 TB/JF

Did you actually *listen* to the content, or just time pips / chimes? :-)

It is not Golos Rossii, but R.Rossii something *very* different !!
You should know that :-)
Listen to 171 / 261 to find out



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

This was our most successful Matlock Forest DX trip so far!

This time we were able to eliminate the interference from the Megane car
electronics which resulted in a lovely quiet band. I wondered if this
might have been due to a slightly different beverage arrangement.
Instead of using a terminating resistor (it failed on the day) we simply
terminated the far end of the beverage straight to earth. The beverage
was laid on the ground as usual.

One thing which aided station identification was the time signals which
are aired by each country. While I realise this will not provide
positive station identification for some DXers, it proves that the
stations themselves were getting through. Time signals are like morse
code in the way that they are able to penetrate the noise, even when
very weak, and the time signals of China, Korea and Japan are very
distinctive. Tim explains:

"The Japanese (NHK) & Korean time pips (they only have one pip each)
were measured at 875Hz. They are virtually identical and longer than
other countries pips. A distinctive characteristic of these is that they
gradually fade out. Also note that Japanese & Korean time pips are
always on time. Chinese six pips are sometimes late and were heard as
much as 16 seconds after the top of the hour. Useful characteristics of
the Chinese pips are that the first five pips were measured at 800Hz and
the sixth pip at 1600Hz - one octave higher! The Taiwanese stations we
heard did not have time pips. Also worthy of note is that some of the
Russian time pips are also late, particularly the Siberian stations.
i.e. Surgut on 225kHz was 2 seconds late when heard by Tim on the 18th Nov."

We were amazed to note that sometimes two and as many as three different
Chinese transmitters were heard on some frequencies. 540 was a good
example where three sets of pips were heard, all a few seconds apart
from each other. We have listed these in the log as "multi tx".

Here is the log:

216 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, chimes under RMC 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF

225 Gollos Rossi, Surgut, chimes, nx under POL 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF

234 Gollos Rossi Angarsk, ex poor chimes way behind RTL.
2 secs later than 225(personal first) 111 1700 18/11 TB/JF

279 Gollos Rossi, Yekaterinburg, Chimes under BLR 232 1700 18/11 TB/JF

540 CNR 1, multi tx, pips and yl TC/ID 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

549 JOAP NHK-1, Naha, Okinawa, 875hz time sig in RUS/D Audio gap
(personal first) 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

558 Xinjiang PBS, Hutubi, YL id, pips 7 secs late & music bed under
Spectrum R. 333 1400 18/11 TB/JF

567 JOIK NHK-1, Sapporo, ex weak Time sig, ID (personal first) 222 1400
18/11 TB/JF

576 R Mayak, Oyash, is, ID, nx 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

585 Unid (mainland)CC pips(last pip is 1600hz), tlk, ex poor 222 1400
18/11 TB/JF

585 Gollos Rossi, Perm, chimes , id nx 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

594 Gollos Rossi, Krasnoyarsk, toth chimes under Mayak 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

603 HLSA KBS, Namyang, pips,id in pile up 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

603 CRI, Dongfang, ex poor tuning call under BBC (personal first) ,
better later 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

612 JOLK NHK-1, Fukuoka, distinctive time pip way behind Mayak, also @
1600 & 1700 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

639 Vesti FM, Omsk, relaying GR w/ toth chimes //585,594 etc (personal
first) 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

639 CNR 1, multi site, pips, id, TC 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

648 Guangdong RGD, Guangzhou 111 1600 18/11 TB/JF

657 Henan RGD, Zhenzhou, pips 14 secs late, yl id 322 1400 18/11 TB/JF

666 Qinghai RGD, Xining , pips/ID way behind York (personal first) 222
1400 18/11 TB/JF

702 Xinjiang RGD, Urumqui, poor pips 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

711 Qinghai RGD, Golmud, w/ pips, id etc (personal first) 111 1400 18/11
TB/JF

711 HLKA KBS 1, Sorae, toth pip 111 1600 18/11 TB/JF

711 Gollos Rossi, Naryan Mar, chimes, nx behind F 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

720 CNR 2, Beijing, pips, tc, id 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

729 Jiangxi RGD, multi site, ex poor pips & ID in DRM mess (personal
first) 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

738 Xinjiang RGD, multi site, pips 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

747 HLKH KBS 1, Bia, pips ID //1467 (personal first) 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

756 CNR 1, Multi site, ex poor time sig behind euros 111 1400 18/11 TB/JF

765 HLCQ MBC, Daejon distinctive pip way behind RUS 111 1600 18/11 TB/JF

801 BEC57 Vo Kuanghua, Guanyin, equal to Germany w/ chimes and om
announcer //846 (personal first) 333 1400 18/11 TB/JF

819 Shanxi RGD, multi site, sign off gong 222 1659 18/11 TB/JF

846 BEC56 Vo Kuanghua, Guanyin YL/OM chatting and laughing, ID 333 1700
18/11 TB/JF

900 Unid CHN w/ time pips 111 1600 18/11 TB/JF

918 Shandong RGD, Jinan, totally in the clear w/ YL/OM promo before
squashed by Gollos Rossi on toth 333
1600 18/11 TB/JF

936 Unid, 6 note music box chime: G#, G#, Bb, G#, Bb, Eb 333 1600 18/11
TB/JF

963 Xinjiang PBS, Gulja, pips, ID 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

972 HLCA KBS, Dangjin, 875hz tone & ID, jaunty mx briefly equal to
Hamburg //1134,1170 433 1600 18/11 TB/JF

981 CNR 1, multi site, pips & Beijing time check 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1008 Unid CHN w/ pips 222 1700 18/11 TB/JF

1026 Unid CHN w/ pips 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1062 HLKQ KBS 1, Cheongju , pip, id //1467 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1071 Urumqui RGD, Urumqui w/ late pips 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1098 HLCJ KBS 1, Jinju, time sig in TWN audio break 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1098 BED97 R Taiwan Intl, Kouhu, totally in the clear w/ Mandarin ID 354
1400 18/11 TB/JF

1107.01 Xinjiang RGD, Balikun, distinctive time pips 322 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1134 HL__ KBS One People BC, Kimpo, pips, ID atop LPAM 333 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1134 CNR1, Golmud, finally appeared after being awol all afternoon
//1377 422 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1143 R Mayak, Samara, faint IS way behind Gollos Rossi 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1170 VOA, Poro, Yankee Doodle, in huge pile up 322 1700 18/11 TB/JF

1170 HLSR KBS World, Gimje, distinctive pips in pile up, jaunty
mx//1134, 972 322 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1205.97 Yanbian RGD, Yanji, ex weak mx then off @1602 111 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1215 HLAK MBC, Jinju , time signal just audible in lucky UK Audio gap
during LG ad (personal first) 111 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1224 HLAA KBS 3, Gwangju, usual 875hz time pip 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1251 Unid CHN w/ pips 14 secs late 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1287 Unid CC w/ pips 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1322.99 CRI, Unid site, @ 1559:23 –37 VOR dropped off air leaving a
perfect ID from R Grad Petrov and very weak filler mx from CRI (personal
first) 111 1559 18/11 TB/JF

1359 CNR 1, Multi site, pips tc //4800 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1377 CNR 1, Xingyang, Henan, amazing peak w/ ID & TC 533 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1377 JOUC NHK-2, Yamaguchi, ex poor pips behind CNR & UK (personal
first) 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1377 Vo Russia, Gavar, IS 333 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1394.96 DZVT Catholic Media Net, San Jose, soft mx, YL Monologue.
Carrier finally off sometime between 1407 & 1545 (personal first) 111
1400 18/11 TB/JF

1404.02 Hubei RGD, Multi site, pips id behind F 333 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1422 JORF RF R Nippon, Yokohama, wk pips, id (personal first) 222 1400
18/11 TB/JF

1422 Unid, CC Domestic, YL Beijing TC audible when DLF pips notched (not
CNR1) 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1467 HLKN KBS 1, Mokpo, ID, pips, nx, 333 1500 18/11 TB/JF

1467 TWR, Bishkek, IS 243 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1494 Xinjiang RGD, multi tx, pips, music bed, CC id 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1503 R Taiwan Intl, Fangliao, Mandarin song//1098 under R. Stoke
(Personal first) 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1521 CRI, Hutubi, filler mx, chimes, ID 222 1259 18/11 TB/JF

1530 Unid CHN w/ pips 4 secs late 222 1600 18/11 TB/JF

1539 CNR1, Kashgar “ Beijing seshen arta arza…” 222 1400 18/11 TB/JF

1557 WYFR, Kouhu, younger preacher than usual 444 1630 18/11 TB/JF

1593 CNR-1, Changzhou, YL ID //1377, 4800 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF

1593 Xinjiang PBS, Multi site, Mongolian OM “sinjannyn..” equal levels
w/ CNR 1, pips & ID slightly ahead of CNR 333 1700 18/11 TB/JF
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Further Matlock Forest DX trips are planned, including one for Alaska
next month.

Good DX!

John Faulkner & Tim Bucknall
Matlock Forest
Perseus SDR & 300m BOG, terminated straight to earth.

Hello Mike.

If you want North America, you need to be beaming a flag aerial
approximately 270 - 300 degrees for the east coast DX. Slightly higher
at 330 degrees to catch west coast DX. It varies with conditions and
stations are often a little off-beam.

The best time for UK DXers to listen to North America is around local
sunrise, but the DX can often be heard from late evening.

Conditions have been disappointing for the last few days, however there
have been one or two exotic stations getting through from further west
while the east coast regulars have been subdued. Note my reception of
CBR and KSL yesterday. DXers north of the border are hearing much more.
Being located at a higher latitude brings its rewards.

Good DX!

John


Mike wrote:
>
> Hi Guys. Been burning the late night oil and heard very little in the
> way of US-Canadian Stations, been listening from 22.00-23.00 BST
> should I maybe set my alarm for later or early morning, and as far as
> this part of the world getting to the UK what are the tests to see
> whats happening, hot spots. BTW been beaming WEST and about 20-50 dgs
> NORTH is this correct! Still learning, Mike. Bungay Suffolk.
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Hi Guys. Been burning the late night oil and heard very little in the way of
US-Canadian Stations, been listening from 22.00-23.00 BST should I maybe set my
alarm for later or early morning, and as far as this part of the world getting
to the UK what are the tests to see whats happening, hot spots. BTW been beaming
WEST and about 20-50 dgs NORTH is this correct! Still learning, Mike. Bungay
Suffolk.

What a range, Manitoba to Bogota at the same time
Fortunately I recorded off the EWE and not beverage, otherwise I would have
missed one region

  680 CAN CJOB, Winnipeg, MB,
  930 CAN CJCA The Light, Edmonton, AB,
  950 CAN CFAM, Altona, MB,
1280 MEX  XEEG Pueblo "ABC  Radio"  500W Mexican Anthem
1400 CLM HJKM Em. Mariana / Multicultural, Bogota,  9100km
              http://dx.3sdesign.de/temp/1400-HJKM-Em-Mariana-0800.mp3

1470 MEX XEAI Radio Fórmula, Ciudad de Mexico, 24h
1570 CAN CKMW-Country 1570, Morden, Winkler, MB,
1660 USA KQWB-ESPN, West Fargo, ND,


Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

It's Radio Progresso from Cuba Thanks to Martin Hall at the MWC for this.

John


John Faulkner wrote:
>
> http://www.skywaves.info/mw/640-unid.mp3
> <http://www.skywaves.info/mw/640-unid.mp3>
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> Can anybody help with this ID please? Noted on 640 this morning at 08:00.
>
> John
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http://www.skywaves.info/mw/640-unid.mp3

Can anybody help with this ID please?  Noted on 640 this morning at 08:00.

John

Many thanks for the responce re taiwan. mike in Bungay Suffolk UK.

--- In skywavesmw@..., Michael in Suffolk <michaelrae65@...>
wrote:


Hi

Did pick up Taiwan 1557 last winter a few times in mid-afternoon
with an indoorS ALA1530 LOOP so anything is possible at least in this part of
the sun cycle...
Cheers

Pat (trying hard to nail Japan)