> Don't you have any local stations? 1130 is never that clear here as I'm
> beaming straight towards L&D Hospital Radio in Luton on 1134.

No Mark, no locals here. Once daylight all splatter goes away. Only the UK
remains on other frequencies, as well as Holland and Norway.
In the 70-80's we had AFN Bremerhaven on 1143 with 5kW



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

Don't you have any local stations? 1130 is never that clear here as I'm beaming
straight towards L&D Hospital Radio in Luton on 1134.

Mark

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On 11 Nov 2009, at 21:48, Jurgen Bartels wrote:

>> This is amazing! Well done, Jurgen!
>> I think I need to move north.
>
> Yes that would make sense for the last few days, very unusual, and now getting
> 780 and 820 better from Alaska than the usual 680
>
>> Perseus, I assume?
>
> No Winradio. Its SAM delivers much cleaner audio than Perseus. In this case
> USB/LSB was bad due to the strong splatter, and since the adjacent carries
were
> further away I could use SAM. Perseus SAM sounds very noisy, and the carrier
> unlocks way to often
> I also use ISB quite a bit lately, because the "stereo" effect simplifies
> differentiation of the audio of the many stations on one channel.
>
> For live DX I went back to Winradio because I can *simultanously* see the
> carrier spectrum in high resolution so that identification is a *lot* easier.
> That is the most missed option with Perseus recordings but chances to ever get
> that function are very small
>
> For the ones who could not get it:
> This is CKWX yesterday at 1000ut, 3 min long because it sounded nice
> http://dx.3sdesign.de/temp/1130-CKWX-091110.mp3
>
>
>
> Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
> Winradio G305 & Perseus
> Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
> http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
>
> http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

> This is amazing! Well done, Jurgen!
> I think I need to move north.

Yes that would make sense for the last few days, very unusual, and now getting
780 and 820 better from Alaska than the usual 680

> Perseus, I assume?

No Winradio. Its SAM delivers much cleaner audio than Perseus. In this case
USB/LSB was bad due to the strong splatter, and since the adjacent carries were
further away I could use SAM. Perseus SAM sounds very noisy, and the carrier
unlocks way to often
I also use ISB quite a bit lately, because the "stereo" effect simplifies
differentiation of the audio of the many stations on one channel.

For live DX I went back to Winradio because I can *simultanously* see the
carrier spectrum in high resolution so that identification is a *lot* easier.
That is the most missed option with Perseus recordings but chances to ever get
that function are very small

For the ones who could not get it:
This is CKWX yesterday at 1000ut, 3 min long because it sounded nice
http://dx.3sdesign.de/temp/1130-CKWX-091110.mp3



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

This is amazing! Well done, Jurgen!
I think I need to move north.
Perseus, I assume?

73,
Günter

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: skywavesmw@...
> [mailto:skywavesmw@...] Im Auftrag von Jurgen Bartels
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 19:28
> An: skywavesmw@...
> Betreff: [skywavesmw] KNOM in N.Germany recorded
>
> This was recorded at 1800ut in the splatter of Europeans
> http://dx.3sdesign.de/temp/780-KNOM-091111.mp3
>
> At the end local news
>
> Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
> Winradio G305 & Perseus
> Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
> http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
>
> http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the
> Northsea coast

This was recorded at 1800ut in the splatter of Europeans
http://dx.3sdesign.de/temp/780-KNOM-091111.mp3

At the end local news

Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

Hello Jurgen.

For many years, it has been taken as read that UK DXers living 'north of
the border' (the geographical border between England and Scotland) have
better higher latitude DX.

It is perhaps ridiculous to assume that this geographical border will
have an effect on DX but that is how things have always been. This has
been highlighted again and again over the years when you look at the DX
loggings of well-known English DXer Barry Davis, who lives only six
miles from the sea and virtually right on that border, and the three
DXers in the SW of Scotland (just a few miles from Barry) David
Hamilton, Ken Baird and Paul Crankshaw. They consistently hear exptic
west coast DX at good levels when Barry doesn't.

When the conditions improve such that west coast is being heard south of
the border, David, Ken and Paul continue to hear other exotic DX which
doesn't penetrate the border.

I know the theory should state that they all receive the same DX, more
or less, but the practice never backs that up.

You are lucky living on the north coast of Germany Jurgen. The DX
equivalent in the UK would be the north coast of Scotland, Wales or
Northern Ireland, only you are a little further south of course and on a
par with my own latitude, though I am in the middle of the landmass and
therefore not best placed.

I know I have received some superb DX catches recently, but they are
run-of-the-mill when compared with the exotic DXpedition quality
loggings made in SW Scotland at the same time.

John


Jurgen Bartels wrote:
>
> > Conditions have been uninspiring for the last few days though I know
> > those north of that mysterious DX border have been receiving west coast
> > regularly.
>
> I do not live north of that border. (What border?)
> And heard CKWX again almost til my local noon. On 880 was country
> under WCBS,
> tent CKLQ
> I expected the same cx at your place
>
> Now on 780 tent KNOM with music and announcements
>
> Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany
> Winradio G305 & Perseus
> Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
> http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
> <http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm>
>
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> right at the Northsea coast
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> Conditions have been uninspiring for the last few days though I know
> those north of that mysterious DX border have been receiving west coast
> regularly.

I do not live north of that border. (What border?)
And heard CKWX again almost til my local noon. On 880 was country under WCBS,
tent CKLQ
I expected the same cx at your place

Now on 780 tent KNOM with music and announcements



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

Conditions have been uninspiring for the last few days though I know
those north of that mysterious DX border have been receiving west coast
regularly.

Just the one surprise here this morning: 1140 had religion after 10:00
and was audible with fair levels up to 10:40.  Audio continued until
11:04 when my recording stopped.  Programming was religious so I presume
this was CHRB in Alberta.  Certainly no CBC jingles were heard on the
hour at 10:00 and 11:00, but neither were any other IDs, sadly.

Good DX!

John
Sutton-in-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire
Perseus SDR & flag aerial

Just got audio on 680, 780 and 820 for a few minutes
could not find a webstream for 780



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

We used to call them " Frame Aerials "

If anyone is cosidering building such a device then there are a few points to
bear in mind.

1  For a given "size", a square is better than a triangle, an octagon is better
than a square and a circle is the best you can do.

2  A short " Helix " is better than a flat " Spiral " because all the turns
encompass the whole area.

3  The maximum length of wire used must not excede 0.1 of the wavelength  at the
maximum frequency that you want to use. Something like 0.09 or 0.085 is better.
This means that for a f/max of 1.3 MHz, around 5 turns on a 1 Mtr frame.

4 Turns should be slightly spaced apart to keep the distributed capacitance low.

I hope I am not telling something that everyone knows already !!

Lately I have been Dxing Navtex staions on 518 KHz and I'm currently
working on a design for a tuned ferrite rod antenna.

Hope this helps

Bob

strange conditions on MW this morning as the west coast , Calgary etc was in but
nothing else of real interest. logged this morning was

680 CJOB Winnipeg in the mix with CFTR
770 CHQR good id 05.00
950 KJR Seattle 05.00
1000 KOMO Seattle 05.00
660 CFFR Calgary 660 news 07.30
960 CFAC Calgary 07.30

david h .. ayrshire scotland .. perseus sdr & indoor flag antenna

Just came back from lunch break and saw the carrier of CKWX-1130, ok that's
good.
But now I hear the audio again, I can't believe that.
That has never happened before



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

Thanks to help from Rocco Cotroneo and Karel Honzik of the MWCircle,
they both suggest that my 1390.22 is R Planalto in Brazil. I just need
to get that all-important ID. Here's hoping the signal fades up
sufficiently .

John


John Faulkner wrote:
>
> Currently receiving a low het when listening to WEGP 1390 in USB.
>
> Perseus shows the offending carrier to be at 1390.220, but there is a
> weaker carrier present too at 1390.124.
>
> Offsets are approximate. Maybe somebody knows who these are. 1390.22
> is just at audio levels. Perhaps something worth trying for.
>
> Good DX!
>
> John
>
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It's noon here and still Vancouver/Seattle area is audible.
Listening to CKWX-1130 while working is an odd feeling

Also KOMO-1000 audible after a long absence and DRM on 999 very weak



Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
Winradio G305 & Perseus
Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm

http://fewo.3sdesign.de  - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast

Thanks for your input, Mike...

I do not believe that AM stereo takes up a significantly greater amount of
bandwidth than normal AM due to the way that it works.  I have got an AM stereo
receiver, which relatives shipped across for me a few years back and have used
it to resolve the France Bleu transmissions on 864kHz which are reasonably
listenable where I live on the South Coast.  However, as you say (and it is the
ONLY experience that I have of AM stereo) it is not that easy to get it exactly
on tune, and with the limited bandwidth that Radio France are using, it is only
interesting for its "amusement value."

I am quite happy with a nicely set-up, wide-ish bandwidth mono AM sound.  If I
want stereo I have FM or DAB (or even my iPod).

The thing that I do object to on AM, apart from the dreadful audio processing
that is often used these days, is the preponderence of spanish stations - there
are SO many on almost every channel, and Spain can not be THAT populous.  Why
can't they use the same channel over and over again like we do here (i.e. 693kHz
/ 909kHz)?

Andrew


--- On Mon, 9/11/09, Mike <michaelrae65@...> wrote:

> From: Mike <michaelrae65@...>
> Subject: [skywavesmw] AM MW BC stereo
> To: skywavesmw@...
> Date: Monday, 9 November, 2009, 7:34
>
> Hi Andrew. I quite liked your input. You say you like the
> US bandwidth, will you would if you live there as some
> stations have AM stereo and that must take up a fare bit of
> space, never seen mind you one of there radios for sell on
> ebay with this mode on it have you! I can never see europe
> or the UK ever taking up that idea, and as to dxing that
> mode up against a mono station it would be hell. Mike in
> Bungay Suffolk.
>
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Currently receiving a low het when listening to WEGP 1390 in USB.

Perseus shows the offending carrier to be at 1390.220, but there is a
weaker carrier present  too at 1390.124.

Offsets are approximate.  Maybe somebody knows who these are.  1390.22
is just at audio levels.  Perhaps something worth trying for.

Good DX!

John

Hi Dave. Just the jumper clip would work thank you. Mike.

----- Original Message -----

From: Günter Lorenz

To: skywavesmw@...

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:19 PM

Subject: [skywavesmw] 1386 Spain currently off

 

Currently (2210 UTC on Nov 09, 2009), Spain is off on 1386 kHz.
There is a Greek pirate at around 1385.85

73,
Günter
D-85354 Freising
RX: Perseus ANT: ALA1530+SSB

Currently (2210 UTC on Nov 09, 2009), Spain is off on 1386 kHz.
There is a Greek pirate at around 1385.85

73,
Günter
D-85354 Freising
RX: Perseus  ANT: ALA1530+SSB

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike

To: skywavesmw@...

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:29 PM

Subject: [skywavesmw] New photos

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike

To: skywavesmw@...

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:29 PM

Subject: [skywavesmw] New photos

Easy way Mike is to simply add a wire with an alligator clip and to
connect it when you want to use both variables

73
dave G8SZX
Mike wrote:
>  so must make up a switch, not sure how to do that but I will try,

Hi Andrew. I quite liked your input. You say you like the US bandwidth, will you
would if you live there as some stations have AM stereo and that must take up a
fare bit of space, never seen mind you one of there radios for sell on ebay with
this mode on it have you! I can never see europe or the UK ever taking up that
idea, and as to dxing that mode up against a mono station it would be hell. Mike
in Bungay Suffolk.

Thank You Paul. I think I have seen your YOU TUBE loop demo is that you with the
X frame and red tuning knob plus radio in the corner of loop! My loop as you may
have read is a 48 x 48 sprial I have just found out that on a double tuning gang
one section will tune down to 2.200 khz and both together will tune the 522 khz
end useing my 24 x 24 inch loop so must make up a switch, not sure how to do
that but I will try, also a arangment for the 48 x 48 I think now! I now think
the 48 x 48 should have 6/7 turns not 9 but I will see.
  I marked off all my tuning caps yesterday retesting them on the 24 x 24 inch
loop and colour coded them so will be putting up a list re vien plate number
count and tuning range, not very good at working out pF,  which might be usefull
to someone.
Once again many thanks for the info regarding my logs, how about that SSB stuff
any ideas as to what all that is about, and a numbers station down that end!
BTW is there a US-Canada list.
One other thing was going to join MW Circle but seeing there on line mag feel
its not for me, maybe the DSWCI might be better, or will take your advice. Mike
in Bungay Suffolk

Hallo everyone...

I'm afraid that I will express an unpopular viewpoint here:

Britain sits somewhere between the extremes of broadcast bandwidth that exist in
Europe.  Germany, France and (it seems) the Northern European countries seems to
stick to the theoretical 4.5kHz audio bandwidth limit, Britain has moved from
5.5kHz in the Seventies to nearer 7 nowdays and countries like Spain (and
probably most of the rest of the World) seem to be oblivious.

I have always envied the US, personally, where AM broadcasting is allowed to
employ nice wide bandwidths, and AM stations can sound almost as good as FM
ones!  I have never understood the argument that we should limit AM bandwidths
in Europe, and as there are plenty of European stations that evidently do not
bother, and no-one has ever complained about interference to normal broadcast
stations I still feel that it is an unnecessary restriction to sound quality in
the AM bands.

In my opnion, most of the interference that I have found obliterating DX
stations is from the high levels of audio processing, which peak up and increase
the audio levels at around 5kHz to make the limited bandwidth sound "nicer".  It
causes splatter, which I really object to.

Our hobby that operates on the extremes of performance of the broadcast medium
but we seem to sometimes forget who and what the medium is actually for - people
comfortabley listening to local stations at reasonable strength.

That should put the cat among the pidgeons...

Andrew
(Shoreham)


--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Jurgen Bartels <jurgenb2@...> wrote:

> From: Jurgen Bartels <jurgenb2@...>
> Subject: Re: [skywavesmw] Ashfield Log:  07-11-09
> To: skywavesmw@...
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 10:31
> Hi Dave,
>
> > Are the German Authorities any different?
>
> I have not searched for the details, but for FM I once
> asked a NDR engineer why
> Germany does not use wider spectrum as UK, Holland etc.
> He replied that Germany follows the Geneva convention
> agreed values and will
> issue hefty fines if they are exceeded. Other countries
> apparently don't see it
> as strict. He could not tell me the standard itself.
> I assume something similar exists for MW, so it would be
> interesting what the
> Geneva papers actually say, since they are an international
> agreement.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jurgen Bartels  Suellwarden, N. Germany
> Winradio G305 & Perseus
> Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
> http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
>
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There's "Gold" on most channels down here ... they'd just overlap less.

Mark

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On 8 Nov 2009, at 12:54, John Faulkner wrote:

>
>
> It would be great if we can get pressure put on the UK authorities
> to force a narrower bandwidth on stations. What would be the
> chances?  :-)
>
> John
>
>
> Jurgen Bartels wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> > Are the German Authorities any different?
>>
>> I have not searched for the details, but for FM I once asked a NDR
>> engineer why
>> Germany does not use wider spectrum as UK, Holland etc.
>> He replied that Germany follows the Geneva convention agreed values
>> and will
>> issue hefty fines if they are exceeded. Other countries apparently
>> don't see it
>> as strict. He could not tell me the standard itself.
>> I assume something similar exists for MW, so it would be
>> interesting what the
>> Geneva papers actually say, since they are an international
>> agreement.
>>
>> Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany
>> Winradio G305 & Perseus
>> Dual-feed 30x4m EWE pointing 320°
>> http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm
>>
>> http://fewo.3sdesign.de - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea
>> coast
>>
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540 is most likely WFLF, near Orlando, Florida; although they ID as "WFLA", apeing the successful, co-owned 970 outlet down the road in Tampa-St.Petersburg. --- On Sun, 11/8/09, John Faulkner <john.faulkner@skywaves.info> wrote: From: John Faulkner <john.faulkner@skywaves.info> Subject: [skywavesmw] Ashfield Log: 08-11-09 To: "*** MWCircle" <mwcircle@yahoogroups.com>, "*** SkywavesMW" <skywavesmw@yahoogroups.co.uk> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:26 AM   540    Unidentified news station. Could only make out "All News" in the ID then Fox news jingle.     Weak    0600    08/11    JF 540    XEWA    W Radio, San Luis Potosi.  Nice ID by YL heard in the mix.  Personal First!    Weak    0600    08/11    JF 750    WSB    Atlanta GA.  Toh ID mentioning "Atlanta news and weather.  And Georgia Bulldog’s station". Call letters obscured but clearly WSB    Fair    0600    08/11    JF 900    XEW    W Radio, Mexico City.  Italy gone thanks to the flag, Spain faded thanks to daylight – alone on channel!  "W Radio, 900 AM, Mexico"  Personal first!    Weak    0900    08/11    JF 980    WCUB    Two Rivers WI.  "... and now more of the new and old, your kind of country, with ??? on AM 9-80 WCUB" ID.     Weak    0901    08/11    JF ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ Notes: The WCUB 980 logging replaces my previous one as I now have a full ID recorded. The two Mexicans were a nice surprise, particularly 540 XEWA.  Interesting to hear KKCK on 1510 with such regularity.  It has been present every morning recently and has usually been dominant over WWZN. North American DX was audible beyond 10:00 this morning which is a promising sign.  Many Europeans have long since faded, which is allowing better access to lots of frequencies such as 1270 and 980.  980 had a jumble of stations at 07:00 but nothing dominated, until WCUB took over a minute later.  WCUB recording here: http://www.skywaves .info/mw/ 980-WCUB- Two-Rivers- WI-0900-08- 11-09.mp3 Good DX! John Sutton-in-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire Perseus SDR & flag aerial

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