I think before people jump in and try to move things in their
favour, they should consult the local Authority By-Laws which can be
found in any Library.

Trying this tactic without first researching what can and cannot be
done, could have dire consequences further on down the line!

When living in Cheshire many years ago, I bought a Pig and some
chickens and installed them on a Council Estate! Great!

The neighbours complained and the Environmental people came down on
me like a ton of bricks! But guess what?

The Council had never revoked the Laws enforced during the War that
allowed people to keep animals for self sufficiency purposes!
All I had to do was ensure that their housing was adequate and they
didn't cause a nuisance (Cocks crowing etc..). The waste I used as
manure on the gardens which was of course of great benenfit to me
also!

So before you jump in, try researching the issue at hand!
Some of the things mentioned in this petition are already allowed in
most areas!

Karen has it right when she mentions conservation areas and the
like, but they are there for a reason! Heaven forbid we all tried to
chip away of what remains of the Countryside to suit our own ends
for the short time we are here on this Earth!

NOBODY is making Land these days! We have to manage with what we
have! People have managed like this for thousands of years!

Farm Gate Sales are a no-no with the restrictions imposed for
smallholders both here in Ireland and the UK. So BEWARE!

Many Councils allow the building of Dwelling houses if you have
livestock (in a reasonable quantity), as you do have to be able to
look after your animals responsibly!

Ask questions, consult the Councils Planning Dept. and Evironmental
Health People. More importantly ATTEND TRAINING COLLEGES to show you
have the commitment to your proposals!

Do things sensibly and it could pan out for you.

Lastly, if you want to run a farm, BUY ONE!
(Or, rent one from the County Council itself, most Councils do have
them!).


Cheers
John
Co. Wexford
Ireland


--- In smallholding@..., "Karen" <karence@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Roger
>
>
>
> I like the idea of this petition in principle, but do you think it
could be
> open to abuse? I wonder if something like this ever went ahead,
whether
> there would be limitations to the type of building that was
allowed to be
> built on the land, i.e. eco, or built for specified occupancy etc?
Also I
> expect it would differ from planning dept to planning dept. We
are in the
> New Forest here, but border East Dorset, trying to obtain planning
from NFDC
> is blooming difficult, but much much easier in East Dorset.
Anyway, just my
> 2p worth!!!
>
>
>
> Would you like me to forward this to the Smallholding and Self
Sufficiency
> list too?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Karen
>
>
>
>
>
> From: smallholding@...
[mailto:smallholding@...]
> On Behalf Of Pat Walker
> Sent: 06 August 2007 21:01
> To: smallholding@...
> Subject: [SmallHolding] E-petition to allow building on
agricultural land
>
>
>
> I have started a petition to ask the Prime Minister to consider
allowing the
> building of a private house on agricultural land under certain
> circumstances.
> The petition reads:
> We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to allow building
of private
> dwellings on agricultural land under the following circumstances:.
> That the landowner is committed to using the land for the purpose
of a small
> farming activity such as the keeping of rare breed poultry or
livestock to
> conserve and maintain the breed. Or pursue a self-sufficient
lifestyle by
> growing their own food and raise livestock for their own
consumption. Or
> conservation of the countryside by maintaining an environment for
native
> wildlife and plants/trees and include such traditional activities
such as
> dry-stone walling, hedge laying, coppicing etc. Also that the
> development/activities on the land do not necessarily constitute a
> 'business' and do not have to raise an income to support and
sustain the
> residence as the current legislation requires. The following
benefits would
> result from smallholders being allowed to build a residence on
their
> agricultural holding: 1)Existing property would be available for
sale
> bringing more much needed houses on to the market. 2)Environmental
> improvements as less car journeys would be made between home and
> agricultural holding. 3)Improvement in animal welfare as livestock
keepers
> would be on hand 24 hours a day to tend to their animals,
especially at such
> times as lambing/calving season etc.
>
> If you agree with my petition please visit the following website
and sign
> up:
> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Rural-dwellings/
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger
>
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