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Reply | Forward Message #1612 of 1993 |
Re: Chicken houses

It all depends Richard!

First of all how big is the Garden?
Are you on an estate where you would be allowed to keep a Goat?

I for instance have an actual back garden of just over 5 acres and
we kept 6 goats on it but even they struggled to keep all the grass
down. We've even had some 80+ chickens out on it but they tended to
soil the grass for grazing as they were free ranging!

We got rid of the goats in the end and put out Geese, now that was
an experience in itself! They ruined the place in no time Free
ranging!

Space is the question, Goats need to eat a lot of grass and herbs if
you intend milking, BUT they also eat anything they can get to grips
with, Tins, rubbish and the washing on the line if you don't keep
them under control. Forget Flowerbeds if they are not enclosed in a
compound for instance! Anchors? Some of the goats we had you would
have needed the anchors off the QEII to keep them in!...Lol

If they escaped you could be in serious trouble with your neighbours!

They really need to be in a controlled environment also consider who
would look after them if you wanted to go away for instance?

The way things are going nowadays, you could end up needing to get a
license to keep rabbits in your garden!

There are Laws now for keeping animals and I would check these out
with DEFRA before I'd do anything, unless someone here can give an
alternative opinion?



Cheers
John



--- In smallholding@..., Richard Cook
<richardscook@...> wrote:
>
> Just curious... how practical is it to keep a goat in a back
garden?
> We're getting four long-awaited chickens for Christmas, and we've
built
> a movable house and run so that we can minimise the damage to the
> grass. But if we got a goat as well in the future, would that be
too
> much for the grass to bear??
>
>
> welliless wrote:
> >
> > -Hi Karen, well Hubby is right, especially when they get in the
veg
> > garden. But then, think of the milk and meat and skins. And the
fun
> > when you take them for walks. When my children were small, they
used
> > to squat beside our goats as I was milking, all with mouths wide
open
> > for me to aim jets of milk there. Then would hold out their cups
for
> > filling as soon as I had filtered it. You can't get fresher than
> > that. They could all milk by the time they were about 4.
> > Happy days!
> > -- In smallholding@...
> > <mailto:smallholding%40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "Karen" <karence@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you, I was thinking of bantams at first, but small eggs,
and
> > > relatively shorter lives so I have read. Looking forward to our
> > own eggs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't get me started on goats, I love them, my husband says
they
> > are devil
> > > creatures!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: smallholding@...
> > <mailto:smallholding%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
> > [mailto:smallholding@...
> > <mailto:smallholding%40yahoogroups.co.uk>]
> > > On Behalf Of welliless
> > > Sent: 19 December 2007 23:08
> > > To: smallholding@...
> > <mailto:smallholding%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
> > > Subject: [SmallHolding] Re: Chicken houses
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Karen
> > > Yes we use some rabbit housing for hens to nest and roost in.
> > > Obviously they need to be out during the day and need to be
able to
> > > stand up straight, so no big breeds, also rabbit cages make
great
> > > broody coops too.
> > > Good luck with your plans, nothing like a warm fresh egg for
> > > breakfast. Beaten only by milk, warm and fresh from the goat.
> > >
> > > --- In smallholding@...
> > <mailto:smallholding%40yahoogroups.co.uk>
> > > <mailto:smallholding%40yahoogroups.co.uk> , "Karen" <karence@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, next year I'm getting chickens which I am very excited
> > about.
> > > > However, I don't have a chicken coop as of yet, I do have two
> > > fairly newish
> > > > rabbit hutches, one is already raised off the ground and I'm
> > hoping
> > > to do
> > > > the same with the other one and then with some carpentry
skills
> > > (borrowed
> > > > from goodness knows where;-)) we hoping to amalgamate the two
> > > hutches so
> > > > that one becomes the nesting area - are we mad? Has anybody
used
> > > hutches
> > > > before with any success? Would you recommend just getting a
coop
> > > > straightaway and if I did, which type to go for? The choice
is
> > > huge.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did quite like the idea of the Vplas hutches, but they
seem to
> > > have gone
> > > > now a long time ago and you can't seem to get the hutches, so
> > maybe
> > > they
> > > > weren't great anyway.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Look forward to your comments.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > x
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>





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Okay, next year I'm getting chickens which I am very excited about. However, I don't have a chicken coop as of yet, I do have two fairly newish rabbit hutches,...
Karen
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Dec 19, 2007
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Hi Karen Yes we use some rabbit housing for hens to nest and roost in. Obviously they need to be out during the day and need to be able to stand up straight,...
welliless
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Dec 19, 2007
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Hi Thank you, I was thinking of bantams at first, but small eggs, and relatively shorter lives so I have read. Looking forward to our own eggs. Don't get me...
Karen
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Dec 19, 2007
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-Hi Karen, well Hubby is right, especially when they get in the veg garden. But then, think of the milk and meat and skins. And the fun when you take them for...
welliless
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Dec 20, 2007
3:30 pm

Just curious... how practical is it to keep a goat in a back garden? We're getting four long-awaited chickens for Christmas, and we've built a movable house...
Richard Cook
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Dec 21, 2007
2:08 am

It all depends Richard! First of all how big is the Garden? Are you on an estate where you would be allowed to keep a Goat? I for instance have an actual back...
John
cushyinireland
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Dec 21, 2007
2:26 am

Thanks for the advice John - much as I suspected really: goats = hell !! I forgot to include my garden measurements: it's about 20m x 18m. Not that that...
Richard Cook
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Dec 21, 2007
3:12 pm

I'm very keen on the micro-holding concept. I have 3 hens and was considering some of the low space, free yield farming types. For instance is keeping bees...
Steve Simpson
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Dec 21, 2007
11:41 pm

What have been your experiences with the 3 hens Steve? I presume you keep them in your garden?? I'm really keen to get into bee-keeping myself, but I have my...
Richard Cook
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Dec 22, 2007
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I built the hen house but it's not perfect. I'm going to build a smaller 'night' house with egg access at the front and a door at each side. It will be on legs...
Steve Simpson
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Dec 22, 2007
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Not a lot of space Steve is it? You should get by with 3-4 hens comfortably though. I used to live on a council estate and one of the houses had a garden about...
John
cushyinireland
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Dec 22, 2007
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... This alone will not prevent rats I'm afraid. I have a roll of the smallest aperture chicken wire sunk into the ground and above for a couple of foot and...
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Dec 28, 2007
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Steve keeping bees is viable. Ireland's only commercial bee keeper started by keeping his bee hives in the attic/loft of his council estate house and letting...
George Shaw
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Dec 22, 2007
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Amazing!!! Will let my friend know!!! Regards Karen From: smallholding@... [mailto:smallholding@...] On Behalf Of George Shaw ...
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Fantastic, my youngest child and I would love goats, we go to a local farm and pick clover for them - I wonder, does milking make your hands soft as I've heard...
Karen
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check out www.pathtofreedom.com they keep dwarf goats in their back garden with great success. jackie ... From: "Richard Cook" <richardscook@...> ...
Jackie Bridgen
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Dec 21, 2007
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Thanks Jackie. I'll have to take a look at that later. Didn't actually know there were dwarf breeds........
Richard Cook
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join your local bee club - they are usually friendly and informative, and will answer all your questions. You can also keep bees on someone else's land....
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I used to keep a small Apiary here Jackie of 10 hives. But the decline in crops meant that the bees were moving further afield for pollination. It has now got...
John
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Dec 22, 2007
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... site beehives and flat roofs are thought to be a good place as the flight path is above peoples heads and the roofs have little other producing capacity....
welliless
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Check out http://www.backyardhive.com/ and http://biobees.com -- George Shaw Bluebell Cottage Portaferry Co Down MI3GTO / 2I0GTO...
George Shaw
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My friend used to keep bees at her house, but having a relatively small garden and being part of a terrace of houses the neighbours were not keen, she luckily...
Karen
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Surely a pygmy will produce some milk? I mean if you only need a pint a day? I don't have anything to back this up, it just seems to make sense. The main...
Jackie Bridgen
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Dec 22, 2007
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Hello, I've got the Omlet Cube chicken house, it is extremely easy to clean, it is foxproof if you purchase the run/run extensions (you don't have to), it...
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Hi Helena Thank you for this info. I got an eglu, just picked up today, my husband's first experience with a trailer and he got trapped down a bumpy dead end ...
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