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Re: Sprog II Intermittent Operation in Command Station Mode

Andrew B,

Before switching to command station mode try using the throttle (in
programming mode) to release the loco you were running and select a
different address, any address other than the ones you want to use in
command station mode.

Keith has fixed his issue by removing XP service pack 3, so I think he
had a different issue.

Andrew C


--- In sprog-dcc@..., "Andrew Berridge"
<andrew.berridge@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kieth/Andrew C,
>
> I have found the root of this issue! If you use the SPROG in
> programming mode, and then immediately use it in command station mode,
> it doesn't work properly. However, if (between swapping modes) you
> power-cycle the SPROG, all works fine. It's an indeterminate problem,
> but it always seems to affect one or more locos. Probably won't be the
> one you were programming - just randomly seems to affect others...
>
> Andrew - this appears to be a small issue with the SPROG firmware -
> any ideas? It's had me stumped for quite a bit and I've spent ages
> trying to figure out what's going on!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Andrew Berridge
> <andrew.berridge@...> wrote:
> > OK... Now I'm baffled... Sorry to keep mailing the list like this -
> > maybe that's why my e-mails are coming across as spam!
> >
> > I haven't changed anything, and yet... Everything now works perfectly
> > in command mode!
> >
> > Perhaps this is the intermittency rearing its head? If I could tell
> > what was going on I would suggest a cure!
> >
> > I will continue to monitor, but if things just continue to work,
I'll be happy.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andrew B
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Andrew Berridge
> > <andrew.berridge@...> wrote:
> >> Hi Andrew, etc...
> >>
> >> How strange... I really don't know what's going on at all! Identical
> >> setup in another loco works just fine. Same decoder, same setup. Just
> >> don't know what's going on! I took another loco that wasn't
working in
> >> command station mode and played with it, and initially it didn't
work.
> >> After a bit it started to! Just don't know what's going on.
> >>
> >> All decoders work perfectly in plain SPROG mode.
> >>
> >> At one stage I suspected the capacitor "stay alive" I had fitted to
> >> the decoders. One loco didn't appear to be working, so I disconnected
> >> the stay alive, and it worked. Replaced the stay-alive and it still
> >> worked fine! I disconnected the stay alive from a loco I have not had
> >> working in command station mode, and it still didn't work, so I don't
> >> think that's the problem.
> >>
> >> A couple of thoughts:
> >>
> >> 1) Could the rapidly-repeating DCC packets cause a problem?
> >> 2) Is Decoder Pro correctly formatting the packets?
> >> 3) Is the SPROG good at generating packets when run in programming
> >> mode, but not so good at generating them when in ops mode?
> >>
> >> I've got the Decoder Pro code running in the Eclipse Java IDE and am
> >> checking it carefully. Can't see anything particularly wrong with it.
> >> However, I'm just wondering - why does it always send 3F as the
second
> >> argument?
> >>
> >> I've just checked the packet output - it looks fine. The checksum is
> >> correctly generated by Decoder Pro...
> >>
> >> Hopefully this message won't be marked as spam!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Andrew B
> >>
> >> ---- cut
> >>
> >
>





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Hi All, I have a particular problem, I wonder if anyone can help please? Whereas my Sprog II works fine in Service Mode Programming, plus the throttle routine...
Keith Woodbridge
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Dec 11, 2008
3:37 pm

John, What do you mean by a reboot of the power supply? Turning it off and on? Does turning the track power off and on from the throttle help at all? Could you...
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Dec 14, 2008
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... and ... all? ... running ... Hi Andrew, Re-booting the Sprog Power Supply means turning it off and back on, yes. Turning the trck power on and off at the...
Keith Woodbridge
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Dec 14, 2008
9:09 pm

Hi Keith, It sounds more like a decoder pro problem than a SPROG problem. Which version of Decoder Pro are you using? I have a really odd problem with it too -...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 16, 2008
5:30 pm

Andrew, Sorry for the delay in your message. It got trapped as spam for some reason and I didn't notice it waiting for my attention. If you try to control...
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Dec 16, 2008
5:33 pm

Hi Andrew C, No problem at all! I think (but can't confirm as I've not investigated it too closely) that it's the second throttle that's opened that doesn't...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 19, 2008
6:44 pm

Hmmm... methinks this (at least my problem) is a red herring! Please don't worry - I think it's working fine - it's just my loco and my track. I'm still in the...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 19, 2008
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Andrew, Thanks for letting us know. The Yahoo spam filter doesn't like you for some reason! Andrew C ... couldn't ... continuity, ... investigated ... I ... ...
andrew_croslanduk
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Actually - I'm not sure that it is a red herring. I set up a loco with a brand new decoder this afternoon. It worked perfectly in program mode, but not in...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 19, 2008
9:49 pm

Ooops - not sure how that happened. No 2) in ops mode should have been: rep: "P> " cmd: "O 2C 3F 81 92" rep: "P> " cmd: "O 2C 3F 81 92" rep: "P> " cmd: "O 2C...
Andrew Berridge
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Hi Andrew, etc... How strange... I really don't know what's going on at all! Identical setup in another loco works just fine. Same decoder, same setup. Just ...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 20, 2008
5:46 pm

OK... Now I'm baffled... Sorry to keep mailing the list like this - maybe that's why my e-mails are coming across as spam! I haven't changed anything, and...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 20, 2008
8:21 pm

Hi Kieth/Andrew C, I have found the root of this issue! If you use the SPROG in programming mode, and then immediately use it in command station mode, it...
Andrew Berridge
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Dec 22, 2008
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Andrew, Thanks for that. I don't have any ideas at the moment, but I'll hopefully get time to look at it during the holidays. Two questions. Does it only...
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Dec 23, 2008
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Andrew B, Before switching to command station mode try using the throttle (in programming mode) to release the loco you were running and select a different...
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Jan 3, 2009
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... in ... he ... mode, ... problem, ... be the ... firmware - ... Hi All, Just an up-date of where I've arrived at - yes, cycling the Sprog power supply...
Keith Woodbridge
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Jan 3, 2009
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Hi Andrew C, OK - thanks for the info - I'll give it a go. I've not had a chance to do any further investigation. Still using XP SP2 - however, I have a ...
Andrew Berridge
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Jan 3, 2009
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If I can stick my 2penneth in, I can't get it to work as a throttle full stop with one exception that I will come to. As soon as I change to Command Station...
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... Which ... with it ... nothing ... doesn't crash ... and ... all? ... 40yahoogroups.co.uk>, "Keith ... that, ... in ... running ... Hi Andrew, What you are...
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