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#1635 From: "orrrbrit2004" <orrrbrit2004@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2012 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: Sprog 3 cutting out
orrrbrit2004
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Mike,
to clarify here, you connect the resistor to the SPROG, in one of the "track"
connections, and then it will work for any decoder. You do not do anything at
the decoder.
This 10 ohm resistor helps manage the high inrush current of some sound decoders
during programming, but will not negatively affect the programming for any
decoder, including non-sound decoders.
Note; this resistor solution is only required if you need it; it is not
recommended for every use - only if you experience this kind of problem, and it
must not be added if you are using your SPROG for layout control; it would drop
the track voltage badly with a larger current draw, and would also get very
warm!

Bill

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "mikeneale90" <mikeneale90@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Damin
>
> Thanks for the reply. I have now checked the earlier threads. I cant imagine
that this is correct for my problem. It would mean placing a resister on each of
my tsunami and qsi decorders to allow Sprog 3 to run....
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., Damin Keenan <dmkeenan@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Place it in series with one of the decoder wires, either the red or the
> > black.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Damin.
> >
> >
> > On 5/3/2012 8:03 PM, mikeneale90@ wrote:
> > > Sorry  simple question
> > >
> > > 1. The resistor is placed on both wires in series from the decoder to the
track?
> >
>

#1636 From: Damin Keenan <dmkeenan@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 1:42 am
Subject: Re: Re: Sprog 3 cutting out
daminkeenan
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Hi Mike,

No, just put the resistor on one of the track wires leading out of the
SPROG (I mentioned the red and black wires 'cause I'm wiring mine
directly into the SPROG until it's installed in the loco).

Thanks,
Damin.


On 5/4/2012 3:00 AM, mikeneale90 wrote:
> Dear Damin
>
> Thanks for the reply. I have now checked the earlier threads. I cant imagine
that this is correct for my problem. It would mean placing a resister on each of
my tsunami and qsi decorders to allow Sprog 3 to run....

#1637 From: Damin Keenan <dmkeenan@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 4:31 pm
Subject: Circuit Breaker
daminkeenan
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Hi,

Does the SPROG 3 have an internal circuit breaker or any other kind of
protection in case the maximum output current is exceeded?

If so, how do you "reset" it after a short?

I ask because I'm planning on using the SPROG to power a switching
layout and was wondering if I need to install a separate DCC circuit
breaker or not.

Thanks,
Damin.

#1638 From: "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 5:19 pm
Subject: Train save decoder
pjrose0134
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Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my locos
and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may help. The
info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
Thanks
Peter

#1639 From: "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Sprog 3 cutting out
andrew_crosl...
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In Mike's case, programming is working fine, it's turning the power on to run
locos that is the issue.

I am working on a theory but haven't recreated the problem yet.

Regards,

Andrew

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "orrrbrit2004" <orrrbrit2004@...> wrote:
>
> Mike,
> to clarify here, you connect the resistor to the SPROG, in one of the "track"
connections, and then it will work for any decoder. You do not do anything at
the decoder.
> This 10 ohm resistor helps manage the high inrush current of some sound
decoders during programming, but will not negatively affect the programming for
any decoder, including non-sound decoders.
> Note; this resistor solution is only required if you need it; it is not
recommended for every use - only if you experience this kind of problem, and it
must not be added if you are using your SPROG for layout control; it would drop
the track voltage badly with a larger current draw, and would also get very
warm!
>
> Bill
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "mikeneale90" <mikeneale90@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Damin
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I have now checked the earlier threads. I cant imagine
that this is correct for my problem. It would mean placing a resister on each of
my tsunami and qsi decorders to allow Sprog 3 to run....
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., Damin Keenan <dmkeenan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > Place it in series with one of the decoder wires, either the red or the
> > > black.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Damin.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/3/2012 8:03 PM, mikeneale90@ wrote:
> > > > Sorry  simple question
> > > >
> > > > 1. The resistor is placed on both wires in series from the decoder to
the track?
> > >
> >
>

#1640 From: "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
andrew_crosl...
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Peter,

Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected" error, or
it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.

Andrew

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my locos
and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may help. The
info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> Thanks
> Peter
>

#1641 From: "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Circuit Breaker
andrew_crosl...
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It does have a current limit, which auto resets and tries to restore the power.
This repeats, with the track LED flashing quickly, until the the short is
removed.

Andrew

--- In sprog-dcc@..., Damin Keenan <dmkeenan@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does the SPROG 3 have an internal circuit breaker or any other kind of
> protection in case the maximum output current is exceeded?
>
> If so, how do you "reset" it after a short?
>
> I ask because I'm planning on using the SPROG to power a switching
> layout and was wondering if I need to install a separate DCC circuit
> breaker or not.
>
> Thanks,
> Damin.
>

#1642 From: "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
pjrose0134
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Hi Andrew
sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the test
track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
Hope this info is of help to you.
Regards Peter

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected" error, or
it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
>
> Andrew
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my
locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > Thanks
> > Peter
> >
>

#1643 From: "graham_wass" <g.wass@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
graham_wass
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--- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
> sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the test
track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> Hope this info is of help to you.
> Regards Peter
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected" error,
or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my
locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > Thanks
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
>
You can just use standard nmra type to set it up. This will allow youn to open
programmer.  It is because the Trainsave decoder is not on your list. You can
now download the Trainsave info from I think JMRI site
Graham

#1644 From: "graham_wass" <g.wass@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
graham_wass
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--- In sprog-dcc@..., "graham_wass" <g.wass@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew
> > sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the
test track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> > Hope this info is of help to you.
> > Regards Peter
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected"
error, or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my
locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > >
> >
> You can just use standard nmra type to set it up. This will allow youn to open
programmer.  It is because the Trainsave decoder is not on your list. You can
now download the Trainsave info from I think JMRI site
> Graham
>
I think this link will take you there iof you are a member of JMRI yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/files/Decoder%20files/Gaugemaster/
Graham

#1645 From: "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
pjrose0134
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Hi Graham
I have now got to read your replys and thanks vary much for the info i will try
using the nmra some time tomorow and will let you know how i get on
Regards
Peter

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "graham_wass" <g.wass@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "graham_wass" <g.wass@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Andrew
> > > sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the
test track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> > > Hope this info is of help to you.
> > > Regards Peter
> > >
> > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Peter,
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected"
error, or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of
my locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > You can just use standard nmra type to set it up. This will allow youn to
open programmer.  It is because the Trainsave decoder is not on your list. You
can now download the Trainsave info from I think JMRI site
> > Graham
> >
> I think this link will take you there iof you are a member of JMRI yahoo group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/files/Decoder%20files/Gaugemaster/
> Graham
>

#1646 From: Snow <snow157@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Train save decoder
snowrp157
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Peter,

You'll find the correct file (TrainSave_TSV01a v0.2.xml) on the JMRI
user group file section.

Rob.

On 06/05/2012 21:31, pjrose0134 wrote:
>
> Hi Graham
> I have now got to read your replys and thanks vary much for the info i
> will try using the nmra some time tomorow and will let you know how i
> get on
> Regards
> Peter
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#1647 From: "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
Date: Mon May 7, 2012 8:26 am
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
andrew_crosl...
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Peter,

That means that the SPROG is not seeing the decoder acknowledgement at all, so
using standard NMRA settings will not help.

Do you have any locos with other decoder types? Do they work with the SPROG?

Regards,

Andrew

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
> sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the test
track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> Hope this info is of help to you.
> Regards Peter
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected" error,
or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my
locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > Thanks
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
>

#1648 From: "graham_wass" <g.wass@...>
Date: Mon May 7, 2012 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
graham_wass
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--- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> That means that the SPROG is not seeing the decoder acknowledgement at all, so
using standard NMRA settings will not help.
>
> Do you have any locos with other decoder types? Do they work with the SPROG?
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew
> > sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the
test track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> > Hope this info is of help to you.
> > Regards Peter
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected"
error, or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of my
locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > >
> >Sprog dose see the loco but because the decoder definition is not in the file
it will report No Loco Found. But as I said use a standard NMRA  file  at the
top of the list .you can then open programmer and do basic programming on the
decoder. Been there done it
>
Graham

#1649 From: "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...>
Date: Mon May 7, 2012 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
pjrose0134
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Hi all.
Thanks for all the answers and help, I have many locos that i can run in sprog
comand some sound and others that i have wired in the decoders myself.
Tha two locos that i was asking about i have now added to my rosta using the
standard NMRA and all is well i can change the address's and change the CV's. so
once again thanks fot all your help
Regards
Peter

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "graham_wass" <g.wass@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > That means that the SPROG is not seeing the decoder acknowledgement at all,
so using standard NMRA settings will not help.
> >
> > Do you have any locos with other decoder types? Do they work with the SPROG?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Andrew
> > > sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on the
test track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the loco
moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the bottom
of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have wired
train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look at the
list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is they both
work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> > > Hope this info is of help to you.
> > > Regards Peter
> > >
> > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Peter,
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected"
error, or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of
my locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >Sprog dose see the loco but because the decoder definition is not in the
file it will report No Loco Found. But as I said use a standard NMRA  file  at
the top of the list .you can then open programmer and do basic programming on
the decoder. Been there done it
> >
> Graham
>

#1650 From: "graham_wass" <g.wass@...>
Date: Tue May 8, 2012 6:19 am
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
graham_wass
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--- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
> Thanks for all the answers and help, I have many locos that i can run in sprog
comand some sound and others that i have wired in the decoders myself.
> Tha two locos that i was asking about i have now added to my rosta using the
standard NMRA and all is well i can change the address's and change the CV's. so
once again thanks fot all your help
> Regards
> Peter
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "graham_wass" <g.wass@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > That means that the SPROG is not seeing the decoder acknowledgement at
all, so using standard NMRA settings will not help.
> > >
> > > Do you have any locos with other decoder types? Do they work with the
SPROG?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Andrew
> > > > sorry i didnt get back to you but been out today, when the loco is on
the test track and i click on new loco then click on read type from decoder the
loco moves as if the sprog is reading and then i get the following text on the
bottom of the screen, stopping due to error no locomotive detected (301) I have
wired train save decoders into 2 locos they both do the same thing. when i look
at the list of decoders there is no mention of train save. the other thing is
they both work well on my old backman dcc controller and the lights work.
> > > > Hope this info is of help to you.
> > > > Regards Peter
> > > >
> > > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk"
<andrewcrosland@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you mean really will not read it and you get a "no loco detected"
error, or it just doesn't recognise the decoder type.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In sprog-dcc@..., "pjrose0134" <blooming.roses@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all, I wonder if any one has come across this problem.
> > > > > > I have just instslled a train save (Guagemaster) decoder into one of
my locos and my sprog 2 will not read it, has any one got any answers that may
help. The info on the decoder is TSV01a 4 function Dcc Decoder.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >Sprog dose see the loco but because the decoder definition is not in the
file it will report No Loco Found. But as I said use a standard NMRA  file  at
the top of the list .you can then open programmer and do basic programming on
the decoder. Been there done it
> > >
> > Graham
> >
>
Glad to have been a help
Graham

#1651 From: "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
Date: Tue May 8, 2012 11:23 am
Subject: Re: Train save decoder
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--- In sprog-dcc@..., "graham_wass" <g.wass@...> wrote:
Sprog dose see the loco but because the decoder definition is not in the file it
will report No Loco Found.

Thanks. That's a new on on me!

Andrew

#1652 From: "Doug Scott" <uglyish@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:05 pm
Subject: ESU LokSound decoders
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Is it possible to download additional sounds, including LokSound's own sound
files, into LokSound V4 type decoders via Sprog 11 without using a LokProgrammer
and if so, how?
Doug

#1653 From: "G. Damen" <g.damen@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: ESU LokSound decoders
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Nope, you need to use their programmer and software.

Gino Damen

Doug Scott <uglyish@...>schreef:

>Is it possible to download additional sounds, including LokSound's own sound
files, into LokSound V4 type decoders via Sprog 11 without using a LokProgrammer
and if so, how?
>Doug
>
>
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#1654 From: "Doug Scott" <uglyish@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: ESU LokSound decoders
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Thanks Gino - that's what I thought.
Doug

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "G. Damen" <g.damen@...> wrote:
>
> Nope, you need to use their programmer and software.
>
> Gino Damen
>
> Doug Scott <uglyish@...>schreef:
>
> >Is it possible to download additional sounds, including LokSound's own sound
files, into LokSound V4 type decoders via Sprog 11 without using a LokProgrammer
and if so, how?
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#1655 From: "Doug Scott" <uglyish@...>
Date: Fri Jun 8, 2012 4:57 pm
Subject: Throttle files
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I'm using DecoderPro3 and Sprog11 and am trying to create bespoke throttles for
various locos. I'm editing the standard throttle buttons/keys to show the
function each controls for each loco e.g. Brake, Dynamo, Whistle etc. and then
saving the modified version as a .xml (whatever that is!) file in the throttle
layout page. This has been successful for 4 steam locos all running with Tsunami
decoders and their modified throttles are easily recalled for use as required.
However, the throttles for 2 diesel railcars, one running on a Tsunami TSU750
and the other on a LokSound 4 decoder, refuse to save as edited versions and in
the process of trying, I have saved a number of now unwanted files in "throttle
layout", so I now have the following issues:
1. Why do the diesel throttles refuse to save in edited form when the steam
locos present no problem and how do I cure this? There seems to be no logic here
at all.
2. How do I delete the unwanted files in "throttle layout"? There does not seem
to be any process for this, only "view, refresh, new folder" and when I do
manage to remove the offending file title by backspacing, it simply asks me to
re-title it or it re-saves as is.
3. I am unable to find the throttle tool bar in the format described in the
"help" notes. Is this a function of Sprog11 or am I missing something blindingly
obvious?
You will have gathered that I am a relative computer numpty and a newcomer to
DecoderPro which, up to now, I have found a pretty intuitive tool which has made
programming no longer a dark art but any help with my learning curve will be
gratefully received.
This has also been posted on the Yahoo JMRI forum.
Doug

#1656 From: "David" <davea2@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 6:28 am
Subject: Sprog 11 and windows 7
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Hi,
Has any used a Sprog 11 with windows 7?
Did you experience any problems with drivers for win 7?
Are there any problems I should know about?
I have ordered my Sprog, but not yet recrivrd it.
Thanks
David Aitken

#1657 From: Gerry Hopkins MMR <gerrymmr@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:26 am
Subject: Re: Sprog 11 and windows 7
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David,

I ran my Sprog ii on my Netbook with Win 7 Starter 32 today.  It also runs on my
home computer with
Win 7/64.

Gerry

On 9/06/2012 4:28 PM, David wrote:
> Hi,
> Has any used a Sprog 11 with windows 7?
> Did you experience any problems with drivers for win 7?
> Are there any problems I should know about?
> I have ordered my Sprog, but not yet recrivrd it.
> Thanks
> David Aitken
>
>
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#1658 From: Rodolphe Braud <rodolphe@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:29 am
Subject: Re: Sprog 11 and windows 7
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Le 09/06/2012 08:28, David a écrit :
>
> Hi,
> Has any used a Sprog 11 with windows 7?
> Did you experience any problems with drivers for win 7?
> Are there any problems I should know about?
> I have ordered my Sprog, but not yet recrivrd it.
> Thanks
> David Aitken
>

Hello,

No problem, just install driver as usual.

Rodolphe


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#1659 From: "David Aitken" <davea2@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 9:48 am
Subject: RE: Sprog 11 and windows 7
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Gerry, Rodolphe

Thanks good to know no problems

Cheers
David Aitken
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#1660 From: "John Bicknell" <jcbicknell@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: Sprog 11 and windows 7
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Hi David,

I have recently switched to Windows 7 and had no problems at all but I use a
USB - Serial converter with my serial SPROG 2.

I identified the COM port allocated to the usb converter from the Device
Manager screen and just set JMRI to connect to that port in the preferences
section.

John Bicknell
Lancashire, England


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#1661 From: "f7warbonnet" <santafeman@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Sprog II & JMRI 2.14 - no response / no reply
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I have exactly the same problem.  Didn't work on one laptop so installed on
another.  Work great right off.  Shut down packed up the laptop took it to a
train show three days later and now get error 306.  JMRI shows the sprog online
but can't communicate with it.  I've done everything possible.  Totally removed
all aspects of the sprog and DP 2.14 program and settings, did a reg clean,
rewired everything, checked continuity of all wiring. tried three different
comports, and nothing.  Unfortunately I see there is still no found cause or fix
for the issue.  I have an expensive sprog laying here that isn't even heavy
enough to use as a paperweight.

Mark



--- In sprog-dcc@..., "railwayeng" <hatch@...> wrote:
>
>
>  You were holding your mouth wrong before.   Now you have your
> mouth angled just right.   Everybody knows that.
> -Steve Hatch
>
>
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "Frolin Marek" <Frolin@> wrote:
> >
> > Gotta luv it when things just... stop working...  then start again.
> >
> > After various attempts to get the Sprog to respond, from cold boots, various
power on steps, reloading JMRI and the drivers, no luck.
> >
> > Go back to play more tonight and, it just worked.
> > No clue why, just started working.
> >
> > Sure wish I knew why it stopped working though.
> >
> >
> > Frolin
> >
>

#1662 From: "Kevin Dickerson" <kw.dickerson@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: Sprog II & JMRI 2.14 - no response / no reply
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--- In sprog-dcc@..., "f7warbonnet" <santafeman@...> wrote:
>
> I have exactly the same problem.  Didn't work on one laptop so installed on
another.  Work great right off.  Shut down packed up the laptop took it to a
train show three days later and now get error 306.  JMRI shows the sprog online
but can't communicate with it.  I've done everything possible.  Totally removed
all aspects of the sprog and DP 2.14 program and settings, did a reg clean,
rewired everything, checked continuity of all wiring. tried three different
comports, and nothing.  Unfortunately I see there is still no found cause or fix
for the issue.  I have an expensive sprog laying here that isn't even heavy
enough to use as a paperweight.
>
> Mark


Mark,

When you have PanelPro loaded, if you go to the Sprog menu and select "Sprog
Version" what response do you get?  It should return the firmware version which
would indicate that things are talking correctly.  If it doesn't return
anything, have you tried a different usb cable?  I know that in the past that
faulty usb cable have ended up being the cause of such issues.

Regards
Kevin

#1663 From: "thomasmclae" <thomas_applink@...>
Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: Sprog II & JMRI 2.14 - no response / no reply
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Mark,
When you broke the system down to move, did you happen to disconnect the power
supply?

I went nuts one day trying to figure out why two new Sprogs would sometimes
work, and then not. (After replacing a bad power supply)
Turns out the polarity of the power feed matters. I swapped the polarity of the
power wires, and the magic returned!

One wire is marked ("+" or white stripe). This wire goes to the outside
connector.
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "f7warbonnet" <santafeman@...> wrote:
>
> I have exactly the same problem.  Didn't work on one laptop so installed on
another.  Work great right off.  Shut down packed up the laptop took it to a
train show three days later and now get error 306.

#1664 From: Martin Pischky <martin@...>
Date: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:46 pm
Subject: acknowledge level
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Hallo,

I'm new to this list but may be you know me from
other lists ;-)

I have a question about SPROG II (USB Ver 2.7):

I have tried many locos with different decoders
(QSI, SoundTraxx, Zimo, ESU and others) and all
works without any problems when reading CVs.
That's really great!

But now I have here an Athearn Genesis Caboose with
a SoundTraxx Lightning Decoder. The manual says
that it will be unlikely to read CVs successfully
because the low current drawn by the LEDs.

But I have tried. And I can read some CVs. Sometimes
you have to try a second or third time. But it's still
unreliable. I guess that the Ack-pulse generated will be
far below 60mA.

So the question: Is there any way to adjust the sensitivity
of the Ack input?

I have not seen the schematic of SPROG II but in the MERG
version it is connected to AN1 of the PIC and AN0 is looks
like a voltage reference. So any software or hardware
change to adjust this?

thanks for SPROG, Martin

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