Try this one, only slightly different.  The one you picked out had a pitch of
5.08mm where as the one with the sprog has a 5mm pitch.


http://cpc.farnell.com/camden-electronics/ctb9200-4a/free-terminal-4-way/dp/CN02\
131

Regards
Kevin

--- In sprog-dcc@..., Robs Cooper <class66701@...> wrote:
>
> thanks is this the same item ?
>  
> http://cpc.farnell.com/imo/21-950-4/terminal-plug-4way/dp/CN02801
>
> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Kevin <kw.dickerson@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kevin <kw.dickerson@...>
> Subject: [sprog-dcc] Re: Green ouput connector
> To: sprog-dcc@...
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 9:23 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> This is the part you want available from Rapid, but you will get stung for
postage.
>
> http://www.rapidonl ine.com/sku/ Cables-Connector s/Connectors- Terminal-
Blocks/Pluggable /12A-Plug- in-terminal- blocks/63835/ 21-2304
>
> If your only after the one I do have some in stock.
>
> Regards
> Kevin
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@yahoogrou ps.co.uk, "class66701" <class66701@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > what type of connector is this if i want to purchase a femal spare ?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have just updated to decoder pro 2.8 and get the message

Serial port/dev/tty.usbserial-feedcode not found

I have loaded RXTX-`leopard.pkg from the JMRI site and still get the problem,
but my old version 1.7.3 works fine, l would love to use the newer software but
I am now stuck, any help please.

Ask on the jmri-list for more info.  From what I understand, they changed the
RXTX versions on the Mac for JMRI 2.8— perhaps this is what is causing your
issue.

-Dave

On Feb 12, 2010, at 3:15 AM, ingots60 wrote:

> I have just updated to decoder pro 2.8 and get the message
>
> Serial port/dev/tty.usbserial-feedcode not found
>
> I have loaded RXTX-`leopard.pkg from the JMRI site and still get the problem,
but my old version 1.7.3 works fine, l would love to use the newer software but
I am now stuck, any help please.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Folks,

I am Julien, a new SPROG user.

I have bought an SPROG II some weeks ago and I am facing some troubles using it
with JMRI.

Indeed, in "Command Station" mode, after having open a command throttle, there
is no traction, and the motor I am trying to steer is not running (and yes, the
tracks are well powered on...).  Moreover, note that the functions behave
correctly, but when the lights are turned on, everything is ok in "normal", but
in "reverse", the front lights remain ON and the rear lights are flashing !
However, in "SPROG" mode, everything is working properly...

I have reported that behaviour to the french SPROGs dealer, but he confirmed me
that, from his side, everything is working ok for that test case.

I have to say that I borrowed a friend's SPROG and the result is the same than
with mine whilst trying again on my PC!

Please, help !

Note that my configuration is :
Win XP SP2
JRE 1.6.0_17
JMRI 2.9.4 (tried too with 2.8.?)
Latest USB drivers
SPROG v2.6

I actually do not have any layout.  My test platform is composed of a test board
from ESU with motor and LEDs, which on I plugged a Hornby 8249 decoder for test
purposes.

Thanks for your promt answers in advance!

Hi again !

This time, I am reporting a problem following which, when trying to drive an
accessory decoder (67600 Uhlenbrock) with SPROG and JMRI, at adresses 1 and 2,
no reaction of the decoder is observed, though this works with another
supplier's central station.

I have declared, in PanelPro, a new turnout, just for first test purpose, which
"system name" is ST1 (S for SPROG, T for turnout type accessory, and 1 because
the decoder has been programmed and tested with address 1).  When left-clicking
on it for changing direction, nothing happens.  I do not even know if DCC frames
are sent on the network...

Any ideas ?

Thanks a lot,

Julien.

Hello Julien

I cannot answer your question straight away (I have my thinking cap on) but
have you also joined the JMRI Yahoo group?

jmriusers@yahoogroups.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/?yguid=85573610

They might also be able to help.

Someone in this group I am sure will have some ideas soon.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: sprog-dcc@... [mailto:sprog-dcc@...] On
Behalf Of djulz_be
Sent: 06 March 2010 20:19
To: sprog-dcc@...
Subject: [sprog-dcc] No reaction with accessory decoder

Hi again !

This time, I am reporting a problem following which, when trying to drive an
accessory decoder (67600 Uhlenbrock) with SPROG and JMRI, at adresses 1 and
2, no reaction of the decoder is observed, though this works with another
supplier's central station.

I have declared, in PanelPro, a new turnout, just for first test purpose,
which "system name" is ST1 (S for SPROG, T for turnout type accessory, and 1
because the decoder has been programmed and tested with address 1).  When
left-clicking on it for changing direction, nothing happens.  I do not even
know if DCC frames are sent on the network...

Any ideas ?

Thanks a lot,

Julien.



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi Julien,

I have a similar issue - in that when I test the throttle in programming
mode it works fine. When I switch to command mode it doesn't.

I believe this may be due to a known issue with the SPROG when swapping
between programming mode and command station mode. You need to turn the
SPROG off and on again between changing modes.

It also sounds possible that your LEDs are wired up incorrectly - the lights
should never flash with that particular decoder - they may be wired up to
the motor output. Please double check and confirm. Does it work ok with a
throttle in programming mode?

Can you try these things and let us know how you get on?
Thanks,

Andrew B

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:13 PM, djulz_be <djulz_be@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am Julien, a new SPROG user.
>
> I have bought an SPROG II some weeks ago and I am facing some troubles
> using it with JMRI.
>
> Indeed, in "Command Station" mode, after having open a command throttle,
> there is no traction, and the motor I am trying to steer is not running (and
> yes, the tracks are well powered on...). Moreover, note that the functions
> behave correctly, but when the lights are turned on, everything is ok in
> "normal", but in "reverse", the front lights remain ON and the rear lights
> are flashing !
> However, in "SPROG" mode, everything is working properly...
>
> I have reported that behaviour to the french SPROGs dealer, but he
> confirmed me that, from his side, everything is working ok for that test
> case.
>
> I have to say that I borrowed a friend's SPROG and the result is the same
> than with mine whilst trying again on my PC!
>
> Please, help !
>
> Note that my configuration is :
> Win XP SP2
> JRE 1.6.0_17
> JMRI 2.9.4 (tried too with 2.8.?)
> Latest USB drivers
> SPROG v2.6
>
> I actually do not have any layout. My test platform is composed of a test
> board from ESU with motor and LEDs, which on I plugged a Hornby 8249 decoder
> for test purposes.
>
> Thanks for your promt answers in advance!
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Julien

I had exactly the same problem and it turned out that it was to do with the
number of speed steps. In Command Station mode only one of the speed step
protocols is supported. I'm sorry the answer is not fuller, I don't have the
Sprog in front of me, I can try to find a more comprehensive answer if you're
still stuck.

James

--- In sprog-dcc@..., Andrew Berridge <andrew.berridge@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Julien,
>
> I have a similar issue - in that when I test the throttle in programming
> mode it works fine. When I switch to command mode it doesn't.
>
> I believe this may be due to a known issue with the SPROG when swapping
> between programming mode and command station mode. You need to turn the
> SPROG off and on again between changing modes.
>
> It also sounds possible that your LEDs are wired up incorrectly - the lights
> should never flash with that particular decoder - they may be wired up to
> the motor output. Please double check and confirm. Does it work ok with a
> throttle in programming mode?
>
> Can you try these things and let us know how you get on?
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew B
>
> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:13 PM, djulz_be <djulz_be@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I am Julien, a new SPROG user.
> >
> > I have bought an SPROG II some weeks ago and I am facing some troubles
> > using it with JMRI.
> >
> > Indeed, in "Command Station" mode, after having open a command throttle,
> > there is no traction, and the motor I am trying to steer is not running (and
> > yes, the tracks are well powered on...). Moreover, note that the functions
> > behave correctly, but when the lights are turned on, everything is ok in
> > "normal", but in "reverse", the front lights remain ON and the rear lights
> > are flashing !
> > However, in "SPROG" mode, everything is working properly...
> >
> > I have reported that behaviour to the french SPROGs dealer, but he
> > confirmed me that, from his side, everything is working ok for that test
> > case.
> >
> > I have to say that I borrowed a friend's SPROG and the result is the same
> > than with mine whilst trying again on my PC!
> >
> > Please, help !
> >
> > Note that my configuration is :
> > Win XP SP2
> > JRE 1.6.0_17
> > JMRI 2.9.4 (tried too with 2.8.?)
> > Latest USB drivers
> > SPROG v2.6
> >
> > I actually do not have any layout. My test platform is composed of a test
> > board from ESU with motor and LEDs, which on I plugged a Hornby 8249 decoder
> > for test purposes.
> >
> > Thanks for your promt answers in advance!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Julien,

There is a known issue with SPROG in command station mode.

Please make sure you power cycle the SPROG when switching from programmer mode
to command station mode. You will also need to restart JMRI as the USB
connection will be lost.

Also, please do not try to control a loco on adress 3 in command station mode.

Please let us know if this helps.

Regards,

Andrew Crosland
http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "djulz_be" <djulz_be@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am Julien, a new SPROG user.
>
> I have bought an SPROG II some weeks ago and I am facing some troubles using
it with JMRI.
>
> Indeed, in "Command Station" mode, after having open a command throttle, there
is no traction, and the motor I am trying to steer is not running (and yes, the
tracks are well powered on...).  Moreover, note that the functions behave
correctly, but when the lights are turned on, everything is ok in "normal", but
in "reverse", the front lights remain ON and the rear lights are flashing !
> However, in "SPROG" mode, everything is working properly...
>
> I have reported that behaviour to the french SPROGs dealer, but he confirmed
me that, from his side, everything is working ok for that test case.
>
> I have to say that I borrowed a friend's SPROG and the result is the same than
with mine whilst trying again on my PC!
>
> Please, help !
>
> Note that my configuration is :
> Win XP SP2
> JRE 1.6.0_17
> JMRI 2.9.4 (tried too with 2.8.?)
> Latest USB drivers
> SPROG v2.6
>
> I actually do not have any layout.  My test platform is composed of a test
board from ESU with motor and LEDs, which on I plugged a Hornby 8249 decoder for
test purposes.
>
> Thanks for your promt answers in advance!
>

Hi,

Thanks to an important remark from Andrew (which perhaps sounds trivial for
advanced dcc users ;-) ), I have tried to work with another address than "3",
and I have no more troubles when using a throttle in the "Command Station" mode
!

Thanks a lot !

Now, I need to solve my other problem related to the use of accessories with
PanelPro.

Feel free to react on my other topic !

Write you soon !

Julien.

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "andrew_croslanduk" <andrewcrosland@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Julien,
>
> There is a known issue with SPROG in command station mode.
>
> Please make sure you power cycle the SPROG when switching from programmer mode
to command station mode. You will also need to restart JMRI as the USB
connection will be lost.
>
> Also, please do not try to control a loco on adress 3 in command station mode.
>
> Please let us know if this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Crosland
> http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., "djulz_be" <djulz_be@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I am Julien, a new SPROG user.
> >
> > I have bought an SPROG II some weeks ago and I am facing some troubles using
it with JMRI.
> >
> > Indeed, in "Command Station" mode, after having open a command throttle,
there is no traction, and the motor I am trying to steer is not running (and
yes, the tracks are well powered on...).  Moreover, note that the functions
behave correctly, but when the lights are turned on, everything is ok in
"normal", but in "reverse", the front lights remain ON and the rear lights are
flashing !
> > However, in "SPROG" mode, everything is working properly...
> >
> > I have reported that behaviour to the french SPROGs dealer, but he confirmed
me that, from his side, everything is working ok for that test case.
> >
> > I have to say that I borrowed a friend's SPROG and the result is the same
than with mine whilst trying again on my PC!
> >
> > Please, help !
> >
> > Note that my configuration is :
> > Win XP SP2
> > JRE 1.6.0_17
> > JMRI 2.9.4 (tried too with 2.8.?)
> > Latest USB drivers
> > SPROG v2.6
> >
> > I actually do not have any layout.  My test platform is composed of a test
board from ESU with motor and LEDs, which on I plugged a Hornby 8249 decoder for
test purposes.
> >
> > Thanks for your promt answers in advance!
> >
>

Hi Chris,

The approval process to my access to JMRIuser's group is ongoing.  I will keep
you informed about eventual answers from their side.

Thanks,

Julien.

--- In sprog-dcc@..., "Chris Marrable" <cmarrable@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Julien
>
> I cannot answer your question straight away (I have my thinking cap on) but
> have you also joined the JMRI Yahoo group?
>
> jmriusers@yahoogroups.com
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/?yguid=85573610
>
> They might also be able to help.
>
> Someone in this group I am sure will have some ideas soon.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sprog-dcc@... [mailto:sprog-dcc@...] On
> Behalf Of djulz_be
> Sent: 06 March 2010 20:19
> To: sprog-dcc@...
> Subject: [sprog-dcc] No reaction with accessory decoder
>
> Hi again !
>
> This time, I am reporting a problem following which, when trying to drive an
> accessory decoder (67600 Uhlenbrock) with SPROG and JMRI, at adresses 1 and
> 2, no reaction of the decoder is observed, though this works with another
> supplier's central station.
>
> I have declared, in PanelPro, a new turnout, just for first test purpose,
> which "system name" is ST1 (S for SPROG, T for turnout type accessory, and 1
> because the decoder has been programmed and tested with address 1).  When
> left-clicking on it for changing direction, nothing happens.  I do not even
> know if DCC frames are sent on the network...
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Julien.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Julien,

I'm not that familiar with the 67600 Uhenbrock, but having done a quick search,
it appears that it gets its power from the DCC bus, and has no connection for an
external power source.  If this is the case, and the spec for the decoder is 1A
per output, I wonder if the sprog is able to deliver sufficient power to drive
the decoder and turnouts.  I have quite happily driven accessory decoders using
the sprog, but they have all had seperate power supplies to drive the turnouts
themselves.

Regards
Kevin

--- On Sat, 6/3/10, djulz_be <djulz_be@...> wrote:

> From: djulz_be <djulz_be@...>
> Subject: [sprog-dcc] No reaction with accessory decoder
> To: sprog-dcc@...
> Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 20:19
> Hi again !
>
> This time, I am reporting a problem following which, when
> trying to drive an accessory decoder (67600 Uhlenbrock) with
> SPROG and JMRI, at adresses 1 and 2, no reaction of the
> decoder is observed, though this works with another
> supplier's central station.
>
> I have declared, in PanelPro, a new turnout, just for first
> test purpose, which "system name" is ST1 (S for SPROG, T for
> turnout type accessory, and 1 because the decoder has been
> programmed and tested with address 1).  When
> left-clicking on it for changing direction, nothing
> happens.  I do not even know if DCC frames are sent on
> the network...
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Julien.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     sprog-dcc-fullfeatured@...
>
>
>

Hi Kevin,

Indeed, the 67600 powers itself with the DCC current, but this only for
supplying its internal electronics.  However, the outputs (in this case intended
for driving signals and not turnouts) are potential-free relay contacts that
need to be powered with an external power supply.  The 1 A spec. is relating to
the max. admissible current flowing through those potential-free contacts...
So, I do not thinks the problem comes from a lack of power.  Do you agree with
this ?

Have I correctly declared my system name for my accessory (ST1) ?

Thanks in advance.

Julien.

--- In sprog-dcc@..., Kevin Dickerson <kw.dickerson@...> wrote:
>
> Julien,
>
> I'm not that familiar with the 67600 Uhenbrock, but having done a quick
search, it appears that it gets its power from the DCC bus, and has no
connection for an external power source.  If this is the case, and the spec for
the decoder is 1A per output, I wonder if the sprog is able to deliver
sufficient power to drive the decoder and turnouts.  I have quite happily driven
accessory decoders using the sprog, but they have all had seperate power
supplies to drive the turnouts themselves.
>
> Regards
> Kevin
>
> --- On Sat, 6/3/10, djulz_be <djulz_be@...> wrote:
>
> > From: djulz_be <djulz_be@...>
> > Subject: [sprog-dcc] No reaction with accessory decoder
> > To: sprog-dcc@...
> > Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 20:19
> > Hi again !
> >
> > This time, I am reporting a problem following which, when
> > trying to drive an accessory decoder (67600 Uhlenbrock) with
> > SPROG and JMRI, at adresses 1 and 2, no reaction of the
> > decoder is observed, though this works with another
> > supplier's central station.
> >
> > I have declared, in PanelPro, a new turnout, just for first
> > test purpose, which "system name" is ST1 (S for SPROG, T for
> > turnout type accessory, and 1 because the decoder has been
> > programmed and tested with address 1).  When
> > left-clicking on it for changing direction, nothing
> > happens.  I do not even know if DCC frames are sent on
> > the network...
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Julien.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >     sprog-dcc-fullfeatured@...
> >
> >
> >
>

I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory system.

When I try to operate any of them Using My SprogII/Panelpro,
they do not respond.

When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I interpret as bit 3
checksum error is enabled.
I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own Checksum error, so
is this why my decoders don't respond?

The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M n.
Is n in Decimal or Hex?
Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?

Regards,
John Hare

John,

You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with the
sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the signals
and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything from the
defaults.

The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing works.  I
have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the handling of
the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which way round. 
So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the turnout you are
trying to control and see how that goes.

There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current version is
now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to advise.

Regards
Kevin


--- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@...> wrote:

> From: pahare <pahare@...>
> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
> To: sprog-dcc@...
> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
>
> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
> system.
>
> When I try to operate any of them Using My
> SprogII/Panelpro,
> they do not respond.
>
> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
> interpret as bit 3
> checksum error is enabled.
> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
> Checksum error, so
> is this why my decoders don't respond?
>
> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
> n.
> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
>
> Regards,
> John Hare
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     sprog-dcc-fullfeatured@...
>
>
>

Kevin,
Turnouts are numbered 1-8.
Tried them all - no luck,
Rgds,
John


Kevin Dickerson wrote:
> John,
>
> You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with the
sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the signals
and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything from the
defaults.
>
> The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing works.  I
have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the handling of
the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which way round. 
So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the turnout you are
trying to control and see how that goes.
>
> There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current version
is now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to advise.
>
> Regards
> Kevin
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>
>> From: pahare <pahare@...>
>> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
>> To: sprog-dcc@...
>> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
>> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
>> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
>> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
>>
>> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
>> system.
>>
>> When I try to operate any of them Using My
>> SprogII/Panelpro,
>> they do not respond.
>>
>> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
>> interpret as bit 3
>> checksum error is enabled.
>> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
>> Checksum error, so
>> is this why my decoders don't respond?
>>
>> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
>> n.
>> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
>> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Hare

Try setting the mode to h800:
M h800
W

The h indicates hex, otherwise it's interpreted as decimal.

The default should be h800 a rev 1.5. JMRI does send the checksum so, you do not
want the SPROG to add another. Some decoders will ignore the extra byte, some
will detect an error in the number of bytes and ignore the whole packet.

Regards,

Andrew Crosland

--- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>
>
> Kevin,
> Turnouts are numbered 1-8.
> Tried them all - no luck,
> Rgds,
> John
>
>
> Kevin Dickerson wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with the
sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the signals
and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything from the
defaults.
> >
> > The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing works. 
I have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the handling
of the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which way
round.  So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the turnout
you are trying to control and see how that goes.
> >
> > There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current
version is now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to
advise.
> >
> > Regards
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
> >
> >> From: pahare <pahare@...>
> >> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
> >> To: sprog-dcc@...
> >> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
> >> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
> >> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
> >> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
> >>
> >> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
> >> system.
> >>
> >> When I try to operate any of them Using My
> >> SprogII/Panelpro,
> >> they do not respond.
> >>
> >> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
> >> interpret as bit 3
> >> checksum error is enabled.
> >> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
> >> Checksum error, so
> >> is this why my decoders don't respond?
> >>
> >> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
> >> n.
> >> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
> >> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> John Hare
>

Andrew,
I reset the mode to h0804, and was able to get the decoder working.
However when I did a SAVE it went to h0800 anyway.
I guess my eeprom could have got corrupted.
I found that, when using PanelPro to run the turnout control, you have
to send a + to turn on track power, otherwise the points don't change.
Is this normal?
If I set up a throttle, I can turn on track power with the button -
perhaps this is the normal method of use?
Regards,
John

andrew_croslanduk wrote:
> Try setting the mode to h800:
> M h800
> W
>
> The h indicates hex, otherwise it's interpreted as decimal.
>
> The default should be h800 a rev 1.5. JMRI does send the checksum so, you do
not want the SPROG to add another. Some decoders will ignore the extra byte,
some will detect an error in the number of bytes and ignore the whole packet.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Crosland
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>>
>> Kevin,
>> Turnouts are numbered 1-8.
>> Tried them all - no luck,
>> Rgds,
>> John
>>
>>
>> Kevin Dickerson wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with the
sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the signals
and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything from the
defaults.
>>>
>>> The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing works. 
I have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the handling
of the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which way
round.  So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the turnout
you are trying to control and see how that goes.
>>>
>>> There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current
version is now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to
advise.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: pahare <pahare@...>
>>>> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
>>>> To: sprog-dcc@...
>>>> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
>>>> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
>>>> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
>>>> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
>>>>
>>>> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>> When I try to operate any of them Using My
>>>> SprogII/Panelpro,
>>>> they do not respond.
>>>>
>>>> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
>>>> interpret as bit 3
>>>> checksum error is enabled.
>>>> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
>>>> Checksum error, so
>>>> is this why my decoders don't respond?
>>>>
>>>> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
>>>> n.
>>>> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
>>>> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Hare

Yes, in Command Station mode its necessary to turn on the track power on first
use of JMRI.

The accessory decoder should "just work".

I have a programming definition file for the steady-state decoder if you are
interested in it; I don't think I have added it to the JMRI distribution as it
needs a bit of end-user feedback on whether it is an improvement (the decoder is
a bit of a problem because of its "two states" model, requiring the first four
addresses to be setup, then swap to the second batch and reset the same
addresses).

By the way, if you have a PIC programmer, there is a new version of the PIC code
for the steady state decoder.  This stops the decoder resetting itself to
default state if the DCC signal (track) is lost, though the power supply must be
maintained.   It depends on your setup as to whether the reset is a problem or
not.


- Nigel



--- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
> I reset the mode to h0804, and was able to get the decoder working.
> However when I did a SAVE it went to h0800 anyway.
> I guess my eeprom could have got corrupted.
> I found that, when using PanelPro to run the turnout control, you have
> to send a + to turn on track power, otherwise the points don't change.
> Is this normal?
> If I set up a throttle, I can turn on track power with the button -
> perhaps this is the normal method of use?
> Regards,
> John
>
> andrew_croslanduk wrote:
> > Try setting the mode to h800:
> > M h800
> > W
> >
> > The h indicates hex, otherwise it's interpreted as decimal.
> >
> > The default should be h800 a rev 1.5. JMRI does send the checksum so, you do
not want the SPROG to add another. Some decoders will ignore the extra byte,
some will detect an error in the number of bytes and ignore the whole packet.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andrew Crosland
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Kevin,
> >> Turnouts are numbered 1-8.
> >> Tried them all - no luck,
> >> Rgds,
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin Dickerson wrote:
> >>> John,
> >>>
> >>> You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with
the sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the
signals and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything
from the defaults.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing works.
I have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the handling
of the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which way
round.  So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the turnout
you are trying to control and see how that goes.
> >>>
> >>> There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current
version is now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to
advise.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: pahare <pahare@>
> >>>> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
> >>>> To: sprog-dcc@...
> >>>> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
> >>>> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
> >>>> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
> >>>> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
> >>>>
> >>>> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
> >>>> system.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I try to operate any of them Using My
> >>>> SprogII/Panelpro,
> >>>> they do not respond.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
> >>>> interpret as bit 3
> >>>> checksum error is enabled.
> >>>> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
> >>>> Checksum error, so
> >>>> is this why my decoders don't respond?
> >>>>
> >>>> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
> >>>> n.
> >>>> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
> >>>> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> John Hare
>

Nigel,
When I read the Sprog manual yet again it says somewhere that track
power must be on for accessories to work, must have missed it before.
Yes I'd be interested in the definition file and if I can help with
feedback, let me know.
Where can I get the new software from?
Rgds
John



ncliffe2001 wrote:
> Yes, in Command Station mode its necessary to turn on the track power on first
use of JMRI.
>
> The accessory decoder should "just work".
>
> I have a programming definition file for the steady-state decoder if you are
interested in it; I don't think I have added it to the JMRI distribution as it
needs a bit of end-user feedback on whether it is an improvement (the decoder is
a bit of a problem because of its "two states" model, requiring the first four
addresses to be setup, then swap to the second batch and reset the same
addresses).
>
> By the way, if you have a PIC programmer, there is a new version of the PIC
code for the steady state decoder.  This stops the decoder resetting itself to
default state if the DCC signal (track) is lost, though the power supply must be
maintained.   It depends on your setup as to whether the reset is a problem or
not.
>
>
> - Nigel
>
>
>
> --- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>> Andrew,
>> I reset the mode to h0804, and was able to get the decoder working.
>> However when I did a SAVE it went to h0800 anyway.
>> I guess my eeprom could have got corrupted.
>> I found that, when using PanelPro to run the turnout control, you have
>> to send a + to turn on track power, otherwise the points don't change.
>> Is this normal?
>> If I set up a throttle, I can turn on track power with the button -
>> perhaps this is the normal method of use?
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>> andrew_croslanduk wrote:
>>> Try setting the mode to h800:
>>> M h800
>>> W
>>>
>>> The h indicates hex, otherwise it's interpreted as decimal.
>>>
>>> The default should be h800 a rev 1.5. JMRI does send the checksum so, you do
not want the SPROG to add another. Some decoders will ignore the extra byte,
some will detect an error in the number of bytes and ignore the whole packet.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrew Crosland
>>>
>>> --- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@> wrote:
>>>> Kevin,
>>>> Turnouts are numbered 1-8.
>>>> Tried them all - no luck,
>>>> Rgds,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin Dickerson wrote:
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with
the sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the
signals and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything
from the defaults.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing works.
I have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the handling
of the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which way
round.  So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the turnout
you are trying to control and see how that goes.
>>>>>
>>>>> There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current
version is now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to
advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: pahare <pahare@>
>>>>>> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
>>>>>> To: sprog-dcc@...
>>>>>> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
>>>>>> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
>>>>>> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
>>>>>> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I try to operate any of them Using My
>>>>>> SprogII/Panelpro,
>>>>>> they do not respond.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
>>>>>> interpret as bit 3
>>>>>> checksum error is enabled.
>>>>>> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
>>>>>> Checksum error, so
>>>>>> is this why my decoders don't respond?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
>>>>>> n.
>>>>>> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
>>>>>> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> John Hare

I'll send the JMRI and PIC files by private email.

The MERG files came about on the MERG Yahoo group in a recent email exchange I
had with Mike Bolton.  Mike forwarded the relevant files to me (based on 5.2 of
the code), and also posted information on how to DIY it to the 5.0 code
available on the MERG website.

- Nigel


--- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@...> wrote:
>
> Nigel,
> When I read the Sprog manual yet again it says somewhere that track
> power must be on for accessories to work, must have missed it before.
> Yes I'd be interested in the definition file and if I can help with
> feedback, let me know.
> Where can I get the new software from?
> Rgds
> John
>
>
>
> ncliffe2001 wrote:
> > Yes, in Command Station mode its necessary to turn on the track power on
first use of JMRI.
> >
> > The accessory decoder should "just work".
> >
> > I have a programming definition file for the steady-state decoder if you are
interested in it; I don't think I have added it to the JMRI distribution as it
needs a bit of end-user feedback on whether it is an improvement (the decoder is
a bit of a problem because of its "two states" model, requiring the first four
addresses to be setup, then swap to the second batch and reset the same
addresses).
> >
> > By the way, if you have a PIC programmer, there is a new version of the PIC
code for the steady state decoder.  This stops the decoder resetting itself to
default state if the DCC signal (track) is lost, though the power supply must be
maintained.   It depends on your setup as to whether the reset is a problem or
not.
> >
> >
> > - Nigel
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@> wrote:
> >> Andrew,
> >> I reset the mode to h0804, and was able to get the decoder working.
> >> However when I did a SAVE it went to h0800 anyway.
> >> I guess my eeprom could have got corrupted.
> >> I found that, when using PanelPro to run the turnout control, you have
> >> to send a + to turn on track power, otherwise the points don't change.
> >> Is this normal?
> >> If I set up a throttle, I can turn on track power with the button -
> >> perhaps this is the normal method of use?
> >> Regards,
> >> John
> >>
> >> andrew_croslanduk wrote:
> >>> Try setting the mode to h800:
> >>> M h800
> >>> W
> >>>
> >>> The h indicates hex, otherwise it's interpreted as decimal.
> >>>
> >>> The default should be h800 a rev 1.5. JMRI does send the checksum so, you
do not want the SPROG to add another. Some decoders will ignore the extra byte,
some will detect an error in the number of bytes and ignore the whole packet.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Andrew Crosland
> >>>
> >>> --- In sprog-dcc@..., pahare <pahare@> wrote:
> >>>> Kevin,
> >>>> Turnouts are numbered 1-8.
> >>>> Tried them all - no luck,
> >>>> Rgds,
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kevin Dickerson wrote:
> >>>>> John,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You shouldn't have a problem with using the MERG Accessory Decoders with
the sprog or JMRI.  In fact our large layout uses a sprog to control all the
signals and turnouts using the MERG decoders.  I've not had to change anything
from the defaults.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only thing that I have found is the way in which the addressing
works.  I have to address the turnout either + or - 4, its all to do with the
handling of the start address as either being 0 or 1, but I can't remember which
way round.  So try either adding 4 or taking 4 away, to the address of the
turnout you are trying to control and see how that goes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There might be an issue with the earlier sprog version as the current
version is now 2.6, but someone more knowledgeable than me would be able to
advise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Kevin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- On Fri, 12/3/10, pahare <pahare@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: pahare <pahare@>
> >>>>>> Subject: [sprog-dcc] MERG Decoder Operation problem
> >>>>>> To: sprog-dcc@...
> >>>>>> Date: Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:23
> >>>>>> I have a SprogII USB version 1.5.
> >>>>>> Using DecoderPro I can read and program CVs o.k.
> >>>>>> I have built 3 MERG Steady State decoders which all operate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> satisfactorily on my MERG Encoder/Decoder Accessory
> >>>>>> system.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I try to operate any of them Using My
> >>>>>> SprogII/Panelpro,
> >>>>>> they do not respond.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When I power up, the console shows M = h0804, which I
> >>>>>> interpret as bit 3
> >>>>>> checksum error is enabled.
> >>>>>> I read in another thread that PanelPro sends its own
> >>>>>> Checksum error, so
> >>>>>> is this why my decoders don't respond?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The latest userguide shows setting the mode word using M
> >>>>>> n.
> >>>>>> Is n in Decimal or Hex?
> >>>>>> Will I break anything if I try either dec or hex?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> John Hare
>

I cannot save my settings to the roster xml file after I have programmed my loco
on decoderpro. I have tried 5 times decoderpro tells me file is saved but when I
open xml files loco is not there. I have given up trying at the moment any ideas
please.

Hi David
Are you by any chance running Vista or Window 7. If so I have had similar
problems saving setting in other programs. You need to right click on the
shortcut to decoder pro, select properties at the bootom of the menu, then
select compatability and finally at the bottom tick the box next to run as
agministrator. Hope that helps

Chris


--- In sprog-dcc@..., "David" <davidfshailer@...> wrote:
>
> I cannot save my settings to the roster xml file after I have programmed my
loco on decoderpro. I have tried 5 times decoderpro tells me file is saved but
when I open xml files loco is not there. I have given up trying at the moment
any ideas please.
>

Is the roster file not saved in the folder location set under "Advanced
Preferences"?

John Bicknell

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My apologies to anyone who received a message inviting them to join me on
grouply. I had not intended for "invite" messages to be sent.

-Geren

Did you have any issues installing the USB drivers for the SPROG II?

Andrew Crosland

Yes and YES.

win 2000 on old laptop (800MHz CPU).
I had a conflict with another device seen as a USB serial port. I had to
uninstall both sets of drivers, manually clean out the windows directory and
registry then reinstall the SPROG drivers. Incidentally installing the other
device second caused no issues.

Hope it helps for whatever reason you were asking.


On 30 March 2010 18:46, andrew_croslanduk <andrewcrosland@...>wrote:

> Did you have any issues installing the USB drivers for the SPROG II?
>
> Andrew Crosland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



--
Robert Gauld
http://www.robertgauld.co.uk


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Hello all,
 
I have loaded Windows XP Prof. on to a computer and loaded the drivers from the
web site (I do not have the disc) but the computer does not see the SPROG. I
loaded my QSI programmer with no problrm (I have the disc for that). Do I need
to get the disc or does someone know what I'm missing?
 
Thanks,
 
Kevin L

 




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Folks;

Previous post on using Win 2000 generated a question. What would be the cheapest
smallest lightest computer that would run Decoder Pro and be able to use a SPROG
II? Are net books worth looking at? A list with prices and location would be of
interest.

Regards

Jere Ingram

Hi Jere:



I have a Lenovo S10e Netbook that came with Windows XP. When Windows 7 was
released I updated the computer to Windows 7 32-Bit Home Premium. No problem
with the upgrade. JMRI and SPROG work fine on this computer. Due to the
small screen size you do have to scroll more than you would with a larger
screen.



I would also suggest you look at low cost Notebook computers with 14: screen
at places like Wal-Mart, Office Depot, etc. These probably cost only $100 or
so more than most Netbooks.



Regards,





John Wallis





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Behalf Of upwpfan
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 10:37 AM
To: sprog-dcc@...
Subject: [sprog-dcc] Smallest Cheapest Computer to use a SPROG II





Folks;

Previous post on using Win 2000 generated a question. What would be the
cheapest smallest lightest computer that would run Decoder Pro and be able
to use a SPROG II? Are net books worth looking at? A list with prices and
location would be of interest.

Regards

Jere Ingram





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