Dean Jenkins <deantj2007@...> wrote:
Is there any particular reason for the fall, and that we can't remember the liberated state where we fell from? I don't understand how the fall could have happened.
Hans:
That's a very important and profound question. The reason we don't remember the original divine life is that it wasn't we that took part in the Fall! We biological human beings have never been divine and we never will be. We are the product of the Fall, that's all.
The original divine human beings who participated in the Fall have become dormant and their souls have atrophied, so to speak, to a rudimentary principle which contains the Divine Plan. That Plan is absolutely indestructible, and can be reactivated at any time. And that's where we earthly humans have a vital role to play. We can reactivate
the Plan and the Original Soul will begin to regenerate, using our body to regrow. If we dedicate and sacrifice our whole self to the regenerating Divine Soul, we as biological creatures will gradually be replaced by the original Divine Child of God. And as our reward our consciousness will merge into the Divine cosmic consciousness.
Although we don't remember the liberated state of the microcosm before the Fall, there is an unconscious memory within the microcosm. Seekers often experience a sense of kingship, of divine origin, of being special, of being magical. This is symbolised in Harry Potter by the remembrall that Neville drops in the flying lesson in Part 1.
The actual Fall itself is incredibly complicated, and took probably billions of years in our time. I wrote a post on this to Harry Potter for Seekers. This is post 2160. I'll copy and paste most of it here:
God created the (original) universe according to a plan. This plan consists of natural laws. The plan is perfect; by that I mean that nothing can happen that God doesn't want to happen. Nothing can go wrong. Nothing is unforeseen in the sense that every possible thing that can happen is covered by natural laws that existed from the beginning.
This whole original universe is filled with God, i.e. the Universal Sevenfold Spirit. The universe in God's Plan could be called the body of God.
No one can explain why God created the universe, nor what its purpose is. We can only understand that God created microcosms which contain the Spirit and which are miniature copies of God's body. These microcosms could be seen as God's tools in working on the universe to develop it and
bring it to ever greater completion and perfection.
Part of God's Plan is that the microcosms have real life; i.e. freedom of choice. It was not the idea to create millions of robots that do exactly what they're programmed to do, but miniature copies of God Himself, having the total freedom of will to cooperate with the Plan or not. If they cooperate, they will work to carry out the Plan to make the universe eternally glorious, simultaneously developing their own potential and thus making their microcosm ever
greater, ever more powerful, ever more like God Himself.
Should they not cooperate, the reverse will happen, and the microcosms concerned will decrease in radiance and glory, even to the extent of reverting totally to the unconscious state of the beginning. However, whatever happens, the Plan provides for its ultimate success. No matter how far the microcosms deviate from the Plan, God has provided a way of ultimately bringing them back to His Plan and hence to their own development and glory.
One of the aspects of the Divine Plan is that whatever happens will make the success of the Plan greater. Any deviation means that the microcosms learn what happens when they deviate from the Plan, and so their knowledge of the Universe becomes greater, their love of God becomes stronger, and their desire to serve Him becomes more fervent.
We know that a large group of microcosms did deviate. This was not a sudden thing; it wasn't a plummeting fall into hell and brimstone. I think we should see it as a slow process of experimentation with the enormous divine power that the microcosms had. The will was used speculatively and the two streams of divine energy emanating from the microcosm, i.e. Love and Causation, were used to create things that were not part of the Plan. The divine natural laws provide under that circumstance that the energy passing through the microcosm instantly decreases in vibration. This is not an arbitrary act of a wrathful God! No, it's a natural law, as natural as gravity. If you carry out the Plan, which your indwelling Spirit constantly holds before you, the
energy coming to you from God is constant and so is the energy you radiate. If you don't, the inflowing energy weakens instantly and hence the energy that emanates from you does too. This weakening of energy is accompanied by a decrease in vibration of the microcosm.
So what happens is that the microcosm is of a lower vibration than the atmosphere that surrounds it. In symbolic language the atmosphere maintaining the microcosms is called "the mother"; the spirit being the father. Symbolically speaking, the mother fell with her children. What
this means is that the atmosphere split into two: one part remaining behind to maintain the microcosms that did not lower in vibration, the other lowered its vibration rate to that of the falling microcosms. That meant the "mother" separated from the "father", and so she is symbolically called "the widow". This is where the legend of the sons of the widow comes from, and explains why Hagrid was the son of a widow.
In the beginning it was easy for microcosms to return to the Divine Plan and thus to raise their vibration rate again. They
could return to the Father and resume their place in the original Mother.
As the deviation continued, the lowering of vibration also continued, and gradually the Spirit withdrew from the microcosms. Without the Spirit to guide them, the microcosms became ever more blind to what they were doing, and we can really begin to see the word "Fall" becoming appropriate.
This whole process took an immensely long period, far beyond our capacity to imagine. It's all incredibly complicated, and very little information is available. We can read Blavatsky, Heindel and Steiner on this (I don't know if Alice Bailey's written about the Fall), but this usually makes our head spin.
One very important aspect to keep in mind constantly is that the falling (in vibration rate) microcosms were never abandoned by God. Right from the very first deviation, the Sons of the Widow were there to assist any microcosms who wanted to return to the Father. They have always been at our side, so to speak, ready to embrace us and bring us back to the Father at the first sign of remorse.
I just can't go into detail about the story of everything that's happened between the first deviation and the present state of
humanity. What I do understand is that before the Fall the microcosms were tremendous spirits of light in whom the Spirit manifested Himself. These entities had tremendous powers and faculties that we today would think quite unbelievable. They could not die and were of course eternal beings not knowing or understanding anything about suffering.
Today those microcosms are totally dormant. Their divine faculties are latent and the two streams cannot enter them. The Spirit has no contact with them. And yet there is a form of temporary animation
in them. We know our microcosm contains a consciousness, symbolised in Harry Potter by Voldemort. We know that we are a temporary personality brought to life by Voldemort, and that we live in bodies made of the materials of a universe which vibrates far, far below the rate of the true universe. The story of how we came to live in a previously divine microcosm is very long and complicated. It took many many millions of years, and is characterised by experimentation. Experimentation implies both failure and success, as you all know. The history of our creation as intelligent, cultured human animals is marked with woe, failure, suffering, and some occasional success.
And what is the purpose of our creation as earthly human beings? That purpose is so ecstatically wonderful, so unexpectedly marvellous, so tremendously exciting and exhilarating, that your heart just about explodes when you begin to fathom it for the first time. When you get your first glimpse of what we really live for, and what every human being will one day achieve, it's like an electric shock hits your heart and fills it with a joy that you have never known and didn't know you were capable of feeling.
The point the above post doesn't answer is how we biological humans came into existence. The answer is extremely complicated, but to simplify it out of shape is to say the microcosms during the Fall created biological bodies into which they infused life. These bodies became more and more autonomous, developing their own intelligence
and consciousness, and gradually evolved into the human beings we are. At the same time as our ancestors were evolving from virtual robots to conscious individuals, the Divine Humans in the microcosms lost control of their "robots" and their souls gradually atrophied.
Alchemy is in fact the reverse of the Fall. We biological humans can awaken the soul of the original human being and hand over control back to him. He increases while we decrease.
Sorry this is a bit patchy, but as I hope you can imagine, one could write a book about it and still not explain it fully. Not that I could.
What I would suggest now is that you go to the Messages page of Harry Potter for Seekers and do a search on everything I've written about the Fall. Go to the "Advanced" search function and in the author window type "Hans" and in the message body window type "'the Fall'". You should get
well over a 100 messages. If you read through the ones that look interesting you should get an idea of the fall seen from different perspectives.
Post 1960 talks about the orphanage in Harry Potter. That's quite an interesting way to look at the Fall.
Of course I don't know you and I have no idea what sort of impact all this is making on you. It's up to you now to read all this and digest it and ask questions. Never be afraid to ask questions; even challenging ones, because I love them, and it always gets an interesting discourse going.
So I hope to hear from you, and any other reader, soon.
Love from Hans
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