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RE: [summa-scientia] Re: reality and false reality

Hi Dean

You said:
That was very interesting. Is there any particular reason for the
fall, and that we can't remember the liberated state where we
fell from? I don't understand how the fall could have happened. But
something in my mind knows that this is valuable information.

Aldo:

Often we see the fall as something that happened in the past. Saying that something happened at a point in the past implies time, which is a phenomena of the Physical world. Time does not exist in the other worlds, where say, the subconscious resides. It is possible that somehow something happened that caused Humans to fall from the grace of God. Then again, all creation is within and from God so we can argue that the ‘fall’ is a path of experience towards realization and liberation. I think it is easy to get lost in these discussions as they are very interesting but in my humble opinion, they help but do not lead to liberation.

What I feel is the most important is our focus on our task in the here and now, i.e. how does the concept of the fall affect us in our current state of being.

Could it be that the ‘fall’ is something that happens every second of the day; when, metaphorically speaking, we are not facing the Light or nourishing our Harry? Could ‘falling’ be something that happens whenever we have a conscious decision to either follow the call of the gnosis or ignore it and pursue worldly ‘treasures’?

 




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Thanks to Hans for inviting me. I would post an intro again but It's over at the harry potter group for those interested. I'll just say something strange. To...
Dean Jenkins
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Thanks, Dean, for your sharing your thoughts with us. People have been theorising about philosophy for thousands of years. There's nothing wrong with that....
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Aug 28, 2007
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I really enjoyed your introductory post, Dean. ... The loop in the false reality is very subtle and difficult to point out as logic can't point it out. it...
Christina Nihill
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Aug 29, 2007
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Thanks Hans, And finally, someone who is posting appropriately to me. It's usually irritating when others attempt to teach and post not knowing anything about...
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Dean Jenkins <deantj2007@...> wrote: Is there any particular reason for the fall, and that we can't remember the liberated state where we fell from? I...
Hans Andréa
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Hans many interesting thoughts, I feel like I need a solid foundation to understand the basis of it. So I am going to comment a few things for me personally to...
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Dean Jenkins <deantj2007@...> wrote: My first interesting note is this concept of time. That the fall is within time manifested as if it were a...
Hans Andréa
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Sep 1, 2007
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your right. Our intentions are the most important thing. Thanks for the post I enjoyed reading it....
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My personal favourite description and explanation of the Fall has to be the Poimandres, or Pymander, from the Corpus Hermeticum. In it, Pymander, the divine...
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I had spent a long long time trying to understand the whole reason behind the fall. Like Dean I was continuously trying to understand how the fall happened in...
The Almighty Gap!
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Hi Dean You said: That was very interesting. Is there any particular reason for the fall, and that we can't remember the liberated state where we fell from? I...
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... And finally, someone who is posting appropriately to me. < Chris: I recognise a certain pattern in what you say, which concurs with my own experience. ... ...
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This is in regards to what was recently posted in one of the harry potter books. I have a feeling that what is in the harry potter books does contain so much...
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