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> --- In summa-scientia@..., "Loveday Kingsford" <loveday@> wrote:


> > A good way to begin negotiations when a major split has occurred in an
organisation is to write a letter of apology for any previous unsatisfactory
breakdown in communication and to emphasise that the way is clear for open
negotiation and discussion towards a positive conclusion, consensus and way
forward.
> While this may well cause an upsurge of trolls, vampires, reptiles, dinosaurs
and squint eyed gnomes lurking in the undergrowth, do not concern yourselves
with these as at the last trump and in the twinkling of an eye they will all be
heading for the nearest swamp as the pressure increases from the fire of Gnosis.
>
> Loveday

Joseph Campbell on page 158 of his book 'Creative Mythology'writes about the
Greek word 'gnosis' and the Sanscrit word 'bodhi' and how these words have the
same meaning...knowledge.He goes on to say that this special sort of'ineffable'
knowledge-"transcends the terms and images by which it is metaphorically
suggested;-"
He explains that Gnostic-Buddhist schools make use of their
images,philosophies,rituals,myths and words as "convenient means or
approaches..... such means are not ends in themselves but ports of
departure,....for ships setting sail to the shore that is no shore; and (that) a
great number of such ports exist.In the Mahayana Buddhist tradition they are
known as Buddha Realms.To modern scholarship they are known as sects. And they
range from those appropriate for the simplest,least developed aspirants(ports
planned,so to say, to handle companies of tourists requiring guides,
pamphlets,tipping information,conversation dictionaries, and the rest) to those
equipped for the maintenance and refreshment of the masters of the sea. The
Perates seem to have been spiritual masters of this latter kind, like the
Mahayana Buddhist illuminati, by whom the dualistic notions of matter and
spirit,bondage and release, being and non-being have been left behind as
illusory. However, many other Gnostic sects- in contrast to the Perates- were of
the 'hither shore' variety, not only recognising a distinction between bondage
and freedom of the spirit, but also working diligently to bring about literally
the mythological end of days, when the last scintilla of enfolded light will
have been released from its material coil. And they attended to this incongruous
task in the two contrary yet affiliated ways already indicated; on the one hand,
extreme asceticism, and on the other, the orgiastic feast."
Carl Jung in his "Fifth Sermon to the Dead" translated by Stephen Hoeller in his
book "The Gnostic Jung" talks about these extremes.

"When you cannot distinguish between yourselves on the one hand,and sexuality
ans spirituality on the other, and when you cannot regard these two as beings
above and beside yourselves, then you become victimized by them, i.e., by the
qualities of the Pleroma.
Spirituality and sexuality are not your qualities, they are not things which you
can possess and comprehend;on the contrary, these are mighty demons,
manifestations of the gods, and therefore they tower above you and they exist in
themselves. One does not possess spirituality or sexuality for oneself; rather
one is subject to the laws of spirituality and sexuality.
Therefore no one escapes these two demons. You shall regard them as demons, as
common causes and grave dangers, quite like the gods, and above all like the
terrible Abraxas."

Finally a quote from 'The Bhagavad Gita' translated from the Sanscrit by Juan
Mascaro for Penguin Classics.

" The wise see knowledge and action as one:
They see truly,
Take either path
And tread it to the end:
The end is the same.
There the followers of action
meet the seekers after knowledge
In equal freedom."


Loveday